AMD FX9370 overclocking - voltage ends it all

crinkle

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Hello chaps!

I've got myself a lovely Asus M5a99x motherboard, and AMD 9370 and stuck them together and built a system around them. I also stuck a "be quiet" shadow rock pro SR1 on it - to make sure it didn't self-immolate.

After burning it in with some tests overnight its seems to be stable. Now I'm trying to push it a bit further and overclock some more performance out of it. Which seems quite possible given that it idles at around 18*C on coretemp, apparently. Is there any way to check if that temperature reading is correct?

My main problem is thus, I can overclock from 4.4Ghz to 4.7Ghz no problem, 4.8 and above cores drop out of the prime95 tests, and 4.9 and above usually makes the system hang, or not boot up. I have not increased the voltage, I cant. If i do, it will fail, regardless of the settings. I cannot even set the voltage to what it is showing is UEFI bios, because it will fail and then i have to jumper-reset the bios.

Does anyone know what might cause it to just refuse to use manually set voltages? I have disabled the stuff to do with power saving as per this guide:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard#
 

jmnaylor

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Hi crinkle

I have the same setup Asus M5A99FX Pro 2.0 and AMD FX9370. I have the same problem I can't get it to go past 4767.05Mhz. I'm running the H100i cooler in push/pull. I did the BIOS update to the latest version hoping that would help but the same results.

I hope someone can help us out with this, I was hoping to get it to 5 GHz.

Thanks,

Jeff.





Hello chaps!

I've got myself a lovely Asus M5a99x motherboard, and AMD 9370 and stuck them together and built a system around them. I also stuck a "be quiet" shadow rock pro SR1 on it - to make sure it didn't self-immolate.

After burning it in with some tests overnight its seems to be stable. Now I'm trying to push it a bit further and overclock some more performance out of it. Which seems quite possible given that it idles at around 18*C on coretemp, apparently. Is there any way to check if that temperature reading is correct?

My main problem is thus, I can overclock from 4.4Ghz to 4.7Ghz no problem, 4.8 and above cores drop out of the prime95 tests, and 4.9 and above usually makes the system hang, or not boot up. I have not increased the voltage, I cant. If i do, it will fail, regardless of the settings. I cannot even set the voltage to what it is showing is UEFI bios, because it will fail and then i have to jumper-reset the bios.

Does anyone know what might cause it to just refuse to use manually set voltages? I have disabled the stuff to do with power saving as per this guide:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard#[/quotemsg]

 

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jmnaylor

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CptBarbossa,

Thanks for your input. Looks like a got what I paid for. Paid for 4.7GHz and got 4.7GHz and that's it!!
So if I want to see 5GHz I need the FX9590.

Thanks again
Jeff.

 
Temperatures at load are far more important that temperatures at idle. The best way to confirm proper temperature readings is to cross-reference.

Also, be informed that there are two sets of temperature readings. The first is the CPU Socket temperatures, and the second is the CPU Core temperatures.

CPU Socket temperatures are great for when at idle, but tend to display 5-15C higher temperatures when at load.
CPU Core temperatures are fed through a type of weighted equation, so they are accurate at load, but display weird temperatures when at idle - they usually display below-ambient temperatures when idle.

This said, try a couple temperature monitoring programs. Core Temp and, if you have a Radeon-based GPU, AMD Overdrive usually do a good job at displaying CPU Core temperatures. HWMonitor should display both, but I've seen instances where it has not. Speedfan is another honorable mention.

As for the voltage issue, I have no clue why switching the voltages at all would affect things. You do have it in manual mode, correct?
 

jmnaylor

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No I was using auto tune software, it starts at 4.7 GHz. and 1.50 vcore. then it tried 4.8 and 1.55 vcore. and says 4.7GHz is the best it will do. When I run OCCT the CPU hits 65C after 5 min at 4.7 Ghz. With the h100i push/pull at 100% speed. Is 65C to hot?

Thanks,

Jeff.
 

CptBarbossa

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If you want pure clock speed with 8 cores, I would have suggested either the FX 8320 or the 8350. They seam to be much more accepting to overclocking (based on articles and posts I've read). Again, no personal experience here, but that seams to be the consensus.
 


Unless your room has ice on the walls that temperature reading is definitely incorrect. The FX-9000 series idle around 60 degrees depending on the attached cooler.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

Here's a fairly basic walk-through to AMD FX-series overclocking. Overclocking through the BIOS is a more stable, safer way of overclocking, and it is highly recommended that you overclock via the BIOS. This basic video should give you the basic and allow you to extrapolate to your own situation. (As a note: Stick to multiplier-style overclocking, for simplicities sake.)

Consider 61C as your maximum threshold; so, yes, 65C is a bit too hot. The FX-9370 is just a factory-overclocking FX-83XX.
 

jmnaylor

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Thanks everyone for your input I'll tweak with the settings like in the YouTube video link from Calculatron. There's some great info in the video. Thanks for the link. I'll keep you updated with the end results

Thanks,

Jeff.
 

David Burgo

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I have the 9370 black edition overclocked to 4.8 ghz. so far so smooth... In my burning in phase right now. My mobo is GA-990fxa ud3 version 4.0 the only version that will run the cpu out of the box. The upgrade for me was fantastic. USB 3.0 Installed win 8.1 in like 15 min, my new comcast via ethernet downloads at 120 mbps so installing games was quite fast. If someone could direct me onhow to post screenshots I'll put them up on my benchmarks. BTW, my cpu is at full load at 62 degrees with a Katana Scythe and dynex thermal paste running the burn in which I am doing right now as I type. All I did was up the clock mulitplier to 24 and have not made any voltage changes. Working like a race horse! This thing plays COD Ghosts and Titanfall max settings at 1900 res with ease and I only have a Diamond HD 5770 GFX card! No stuttering at all!
 

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You motherboard is total junk. im running this chip on a asus sabertooth r2 with arctic cooler 1 fan at 5g at 45 to 55c it got to 66c in torture test prime 95.
every time you bump the multiplier you have to bump the V a few microV
you have to shut off all the auto stuff in the bios and make sure you have manual core handeling on. This will also stop the frequency jumping all over the place.
 


his board is not junk, in this case its not bad but you really need a 8 phase vrm design for this cpu regardless this thread is ancient, I also highly doubt you are running a arctic cooler with this at 5g and only seeing those temps, my temps get to 65 with 2 240mm rads @ 4.8 also its milli-volts not micro also I bet your throttling if you dont have a fan on vrms since I have the same board
 

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which arctic cooler? I am also running an open air case , but i finally got to 5ghz stable 233x21.5 with voltage offset of .05 on NB and vcore vs manual event though it turns out to be the same voltage of about 1.56

works for me I guess
 

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Try some noctua fans because my thermaltake water3.0 pro is on par with 100i and i only get to 54 c on load and thats with only one noctua 2000 rpm fan.
 

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first of all forget using auto tune software.also use occt not prime 95.
occt will tell you what you need to know in 1/4 the time.
i have had the same ocs last 4 hrs on prime 95 and just 20 min on occt.
use occt option for instability testing and linpack for cooler testing.
linpack option in occt will bring your cpu cooler to its knees and is the worst case scenario
for heat.watch your temps on linpack!also WATCH YOUR CLOCK SPEED FOR THROTTLING IN OCCT.
if cpu is throttling its most likely apm master mode is enabled or the mb cant supply enough current to keep
the cpu fed. this will also cause lockups and errors. the Asus M5a99x is a very good board,but
it only has a 6+2 power phase vs SABERTOOTH and other high end boards 8+2

make sure you have the correct settings in the bios for overclocking
digi+ vrm cpu current capability=130%
digi+ vrm cpu power duty control=extreme
digi+ vrm cpu voltage frequency for me 320 vs 300 helped
cpu spread spectrum=disabled
advanced cpu configuration
apm master mode=disabled
i keep cool and quiet enabled and it has no negative effects on my oc


fx core temp sensor is only accurate at load not idle
socket temp sensor is accurate at idle and load
max safe temps are 62 for the core and 72 for the socket


more voltage then you need=more heat and instability!fx 9000 often come overvolted.
you need to find the lowest stable voltage @4.4-4.7 and go from there. use offset mode
and change the + to - then go to the cpu voltage hold shitf and press + this will lower
the cpu voltage. do this 1 step at a time and run occt for 30 min every step . repeat until unstable.
after you get lowest stable voltage start upping the Base Clock 1 or 2 at a time,
making sure you keep a eye on the ram nb and ht speed.when you get a unstable clock
try increasing load line calibration. monitor cpu voltage with cpu-z
also try lowering ram and/or nb /ht speed and see if that helps

to lower socket and vrm temp try putting a low speed fan on the vrm heatsink.
blowing air in to the back of the motherboard also helps as it gets VERY HOT
back their. i have little Copper Heat sinks on the back of my sabertooths
socket and vrm heat spreader and it helped a lot. all cpus are different in
some way. it may be that you just got a bad overclocker. hope this halps