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December 24, 2013 4:13:01 PM

Ok so I got some money and I would like to finally upgrade my system to Intel. Currently I have a 8350 and the gpu I'm using is a 7950.

I know as of now that the i5 is simply better for gaming. But now with the new consoles out having more cores, which means and I hope gaming devs will be optimizing future games for more cores than an i5. So with that I'd like to know if the i7 will be more future proof in that sense. Is it worth it? Will I notice a huge difference switching? Currently I feel like I should be getting more FPS in the games I'm playing with the gpu that I have and I do believe my cpu is holding me back.

I run 2 monitors if that matters, one is 24" 1920/1080 and the other is some Dell flatscreen monitor that I use to display Skype, music and internet while I'm gaming on my main monitor.

Also I currently have ram that is clocked at 1866 stock, is this something I'll need to replace unless I get some beast mobo?


So if anyone can give me any insight that would be great and much appreciated :D 

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December 24, 2013 4:16:02 PM

Which games aren't you getting enough performance in?

Anyway, an i7 is essentially an i5 with hyperthreading which doesn't benefit most games much. I'm guessing you're looking at the 4670k and 4770k?
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December 24, 2013 4:17:54 PM

both i5 and i7 haswells has the same number for cores.
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December 24, 2013 4:22:12 PM

i7 is same as i5 with extra feature, hyperthreading. You will literally gain nothing out of this when gaming. Hyperthreading is used during intense tasks such has editing/rendering. If you want to improve performance, overclock the i5 (3570k/4670k). i7 is not future proof, they are equal cpus but with i7 having few better features and .1 higher ghz, which won't matter if you OC.
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December 24, 2013 4:27:56 PM

If you upgrade to a i7 or a i5 your performance increase would not be enough to justify the cost. Your best bet would be to overclock your current processor and either upgrade to a GTX 770 or 780, or wait until the after market coolers come out for the 290x and get one of those.
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December 24, 2013 4:28:24 PM

"CPU's Master" wtf does that mean? sounds like some useless faggotry. anyway, to the point - i5 = perfect companion for mainstream chipsets, be that Z68/Z77/Z87 - the cpu seems almost pointless as judged by recent tom's comparisons & the current ranking of all i5 CPU's from the sandy/ivy/haswell generation in the same top bracket http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclo...

The issue of cpu loading comes into account when you intend on using multiple gpu's with multiple monitors in the same system. in this case i standard quad i7 is doubtful to be the solution - i would bet on a hex-core cpu running in intel's x79 chipset. will this cost more? you damn well bet, but it'll hopefully remove any bottlenecks associated with multi-card configurations required to serve up enough graphical horsepower to run your desired amount of monitors
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December 24, 2013 4:30:53 PM

jpoos said:
"CPU's Master" wtf does that mean? sounds like some useless faggotry.


... I'm sure you're a much better human being for having "CPU veteran++ (Legacy)". Was that comment even necessary?
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December 24, 2013 4:39:37 PM

JOOK-D said:
jpoos said:
"CPU's Master" wtf does that mean? sounds like some useless faggotry.


... I'm sure you're a much better human being for having "CPU veteran++ (Legacy)". Was that comment even necessary?


He's drunk. He's been commenting weird stuff on other posts as well.. haha
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December 24, 2013 4:40:22 PM

probably not, but it kinda just flows out, whether it's correct or not.
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December 24, 2013 5:37:15 PM

You are not going to see a big leap in term of performance from the 8350 to either the 4670k or the 4770k. I don't think it's going to be worth it. Because not only you have to replace the whole CPU, you are also going to be replace the Mainboard, which adds up at least $150 for a decent ATX Mainboard. I would wait until Broadwell or Skylake.
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December 24, 2013 6:35:03 PM

Games I play are WoW/GW2/SWTOR, FPS like BF4, DayZ. Whatever new games coming out in the future. Just thinking about my future of gaming and I feel like this cpu isn't the best. Only reason I got it is because I had this amd mobo from my last build so I just upgraded to the 8350.
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December 24, 2013 9:12:49 PM

WoW and SWTOR type games are usually badly-coded and if they still keep their old coding woes for their future games, You will struggle with that processor. However, First person shooter games like BF4 are usually well coded and your processor will at least keep up till 2015. Processor performance on games also depend on the resolution, while in my explanation I am explaining in a 1080p language. Still I would stick with my last explanation. Too keep the 8350 and wait for next gen.
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December 25, 2013 3:17:41 PM

Boss Cat Johnson said:
If you upgrade to a i7 or a i5 your performance increase would not be enough to justify the cost. Your best bet would be to overclock your current processor and either upgrade to a GTX 770 or 780, or wait until the after market coolers come out for the 290x and get one of those.


So my CPU wouldn't bottleneck one of those GPUs? In most newer games I play I average around 30-35fps. I figured my 7950 was capable of producing more. I run BF4 without any issues on max settings with 50+ FPS but there isn't much to load in that game once you're in the map. Games that have an open world are where I see my FPS averaging 30-35fps and I would like to see them above 50 on all games if possible. Games like ESO coming out where there will be 200 people fighting on screen I know will lag me. When I play GW2 and do the WvW pvp, in large fights on high settings I drop to like 15fps, and that is only with like 50 people on screen fighting.

Also how long until nextgen is out?
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December 25, 2013 3:21:29 PM

NG88 said:
Boss Cat Johnson said:
If you upgrade to a i7 or a i5 your performance increase would not be enough to justify the cost. Your best bet would be to overclock your current processor and either upgrade to a GTX 770 or 780, or wait until the after market coolers come out for the 290x and get one of those.


So my CPU wouldn't bottleneck one of those GPUs? In most newer games I play I average around 30-35fps. I figured my 7950 was capable of producing more. I run BF4 without any issues on max settings with 50+ FPS but there isn't much to load in that game once you're in the map. Games that have an open world are where I see my FPS averaging 30-35fps and I would like to see them above 50 on all games if possible. Games like ESO coming out where there will be 200 people fighting on screen I know will lag me. When I play GW2 and do the WvW pvp, in large fights on high settings I drop to like 15fps, and that is only with like 50 people on screen fighting.

Also how long until nextgen is out?


30-35? You should absolutely get more - heck, I get more than that. I think there's something else at work, try updating your graphics drivers and your BIOS.
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December 27, 2013 9:49:59 PM

NG88 said:
Boss Cat Johnson said:
If you upgrade to a i7 or a i5 your performance increase would not be enough to justify the cost. Your best bet would be to overclock your current processor and either upgrade to a GTX 770 or 780, or wait until the after market coolers come out for the 290x and get one of those.


So my CPU wouldn't bottleneck one of those GPUs? In most newer games I play I average around 30-35fps. I figured my 7950 was capable of producing more. I run BF4 without any issues on max settings with 50+ FPS but there isn't much to load in that game once you're in the map. Games that have an open world are where I see my FPS averaging 30-35fps and I would like to see them above 50 on all games if possible. Games like ESO coming out where there will be 200 people fighting on screen I know will lag me. When I play GW2 and do the WvW pvp, in large fights on high settings I drop to like 15fps, and that is only with like 50 people on screen fighting.

Also how long until nextgen is out?


None of those GPUs will bottleneck a 8350. But you should be getting more than 30-35fps with your current setup. I would try what the other guy said about checking to make sure you have the latest video drivers and updating your bios first and then see if it changes anything.
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December 27, 2013 10:00:55 PM

Keep your 8350 and overclock, save your money.
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