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December 25, 2013 2:38:19 PM

Hello, I've just bought a GTX 690 hoping all will go well for the next 4 years or so. (old GPU was an ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series which is now antique) The problem here is that I have been trying it out in a lot of games, like:

ArmA 2/3 (35 FPS on Maximum settings)
Battlefield 3/4 (25-35 FPS on Ultra)
GTA IV (50 FPS on Medium)

and it feels like the GPU is simply not doing it's best. So I have looked up some videos of other people with GTX 690s and their stats. It appears there is something wrong. Also, the computer has powered itself off when I have ran the Uni-engine Heaven Benchmark Test on Ultra, and even on Medium.

I am not sure what to do anymore so I have came here.

Additionally, my friend who owns a GTX 560 gets about 20 more frames on all those games and with the same settings.

MY SPECS (PICTURE)

Specs:
GPU: GeForce GTX 690
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor
PSU: 750w (VERY CHEAP) (15 UK Pounds to be exact) unsure of brand
Memory: 8.00 GB RAM
Resolution: 1920x1080 60 Hz
Monitor(s): 1 Monitor (Samsung SyncMaster TA350)
December 25, 2013 2:47:05 PM

What are the temperature of both the GPU and CPU

What CPU are you using?

What PSU are you using?
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December 25, 2013 3:22:35 PM

BlankInsanity said:
What are the temperature of both the GPU and CPU

What CPU are you using?

What PSU are you using?


I have posted an unfinished post by accident. Now updated sorry about that. My GPU temperature went up to 69 then powered off in the Heaven Benchmark test which was running Maximum Graphic Settings with a solid 60 FPS or even more. Although, in Battlefield 4 Ultra I am getting about 45celsius and only shut down my PC once while I wasn't monitoring it.

About the CPU temperature, I am unsure but I will look into that asap.
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December 25, 2013 3:23:35 PM

If the system powers down, it is almost certainly because of the crappy PSU
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December 25, 2013 3:29:19 PM

smeezekitty said:
If the system powers down, it is almost certainly because of the crappy PSU


I would say so aswell, but what about the low FPS in BF4? I mean, is it because of the PSU or is it because it may of ran on 1 GPU? Why am I getting low FPS in BF4 and high FPS in Heaven with ULTRA settings?
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December 25, 2013 7:04:17 PM

Woah!!!

15 Pounds for a 750W PSU?? never go cheap on a PSU when you're buying such a high end card. You most definitly need a new PSU. I would highly suggest the HX 750 or any 80Plus certified 750W PSU

Also, no, the GTX 960 should be getting well enough 60+FPS on BF4 even maxed out.

also that Processor of yours is a bit old to handle the bandwith of the 690.

Also can I ask..
Why did you get such an expensive GPU? I mean that card is roughly $1k USD... You could get an R9 290X and a Core core i5-3570k with enough money to buy an overkill PSU with $1k and that alone is a killer setup.

I mean a 690 on a cheap PSU setup wtih an AMD phenemon X4 is really not ideal. Did you think this through or just bought the most expensive card you could see?
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December 26, 2013 4:26:54 AM

BlankInsanity said:
Woah!!!

15 Pounds for a 750W PSU?? never go cheap on a PSU when you're buying such a high end card. You most definitly need a new PSU. I would highly suggest the HX 750 or any 80Plus certified 750W PSU

Also, no, the GTX 960 should be getting well enough 60+FPS on BF4 even maxed out.

also that Processor of yours is a bit old to handle the bandwith of the 690.

Also can I ask..
Why did you get such an expensive GPU? I mean that card is roughly $1k USD... You could get an R9 290X and a Core core i5-3570k with enough money to buy an overkill PSU with $1k and that alone is a killer setup.

I mean a 690 on a cheap PSU setup wtih an AMD phenemon X4 is really not ideal. Did you think this through or just bought the most expensive card you could see?


Thanks for the response, I agree with you. The PSU is probably badly manufactured or something along those lines.

Also, WHY am I getting about 30 FPS on ULTRA in BF4? Is this caused by my Processor? Which cannot handle the bandwidth, as you said? Or is this the PSU's fault?

To answer your question, I bought the GTX 690 thinking it would run nicely for about 3 years and then I would have to upgrade my Processor and probably my PSU. It was on a deal with 400 pounds and I thought I would do some research to see how good it performs. I saw the videos about the GTX 690 vs GTX Titan and how it was saying the better one is GTX 690. After that I looked up the prices and noticed that this GTX 690 was relatively cheap compared to the other prices. So I thought, I have a decent enough PSU/Processor to run this, surely. And went ahead and ordered it.

What do you suggest? Selling the GTX 690 for a higher price and building the system you have mentioned?

"You could get an R9 290X and a Core core i5-3570k with enough money to buy an overkill PSU with $1k and that alone is a killer setup."

Or do you suggest just upgrading my Processor and PSU? And if I do, do I have to get a new motherboard aswell?
(I have an ASRock K10N78FullHD-hSLI)
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December 26, 2013 7:53:22 AM

BambiKiller said:
BlankInsanity said:
Woah!!!

15 Pounds for a 750W PSU?? never go cheap on a PSU when you're buying such a high end card. You most definitly need a new PSU. I would highly suggest the HX 750 or any 80Plus certified 750W PSU

Also, no, the GTX 960 should be getting well enough 60+FPS on BF4 even maxed out.

also that Processor of yours is a bit old to handle the bandwith of the 690.

Also can I ask..
Why did you get such an expensive GPU? I mean that card is roughly $1k USD... You could get an R9 290X and a Core core i5-3570k with enough money to buy an overkill PSU with $1k and that alone is a killer setup.

I mean a 690 on a cheap PSU setup wtih an AMD phenemon X4 is really not ideal. Did you think this through or just bought the most expensive card you could see?


Thanks for the response, I agree with you. The PSU is probably badly manufactured or something along those lines.

Also, WHY am I getting about 30 FPS on ULTRA in BF4? Is this caused by my Processor? Which cannot handle the bandwidth, as you said? Or is this the PSU's fault?

To answer your question, I bought the GTX 690 thinking it would run nicely for about 3 years and then I would have to upgrade my Processor and probably my PSU. It was on a deal with 400 pounds and I thought I would do some research to see how good it performs. I saw the videos about the GTX 690 vs GTX Titan and how it was saying the better one is GTX 690. After that I looked up the prices and noticed that this GTX 690 was relatively cheap compared to the other prices. So I thought, I have a decent enough PSU/Processor to run this, surely. And went ahead and ordered it.

What do you suggest? Selling the GTX 690 for a higher price and building the system you have mentioned?

"You could get an R9 290X and a Core core i5-3570k with enough money to buy an overkill PSU with $1k and that alone is a killer setup."

Or do you suggest just upgrading my Processor and PSU? And if I do, do I have to get a new motherboard aswell?
(I have an ASRock K10N78FullHD-hSLI)


judging by your motherboard your using an AMD CPU. now from my experiences Intel CPUs are more effecient and better at gaming but that's just my opinion. You will have to get a new motherboard if you upgrade the processor if the sockets don't match.

If you do plan on selling the GTX 690 which I would suggest I've built of nice build for you:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.96 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $970.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Now I did say you could get the R9 290 but, currently there are no aftermarket coolers for the R9 290 which means you'll be stuck with a reference card which goes up to 95C, which imo is terrible though AMD says it's ment to run up to those temps, you wouldn't want your case being an oven. So I picked a GTX 780 which will perform just aswell as the R9 290 however as your resolution increases the R9 290 will begin to have the edge in performance.
I gave you a 3570k because it's a great quad core and it's unlocked which I bundled with a cooler master Evo to keep it nice and cool even under overclocked conditions. Be warned when you install a new motherboard, use a new HDD otherwise you will experience issues, BIOS issues
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December 26, 2013 8:15:27 AM

^^you better edit those amd/intel PSUs into cpus, you're confusing the poor guy. :p 

edit also the non-ref 290s are just getting launched, there are already some reviews online
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-2...
pretty impressive temp/noise numbers.

edit2 newegg has gigabyte's windforce cards in stock at ridiculous prices... damn coin miners :( 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 26, 2013 9:00:37 AM

Kari said:
^^you better edit those amd/intel PSUs into cpus, you're confusing the poor guy. :p 

edit also the non-ref 290s are just getting launched, there are already some reviews online
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-2...
pretty impressive temp/noise numbers.

edit2 newegg has gigabyte's windforce cards in stock at ridiculous prices... damn coin miners :( 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Oops fixed them. Yeah I did notice aftermarket 290s though look at the prices lol.. that's why I never chose one, I mean he could always wait till they prices lower but until then his best bet is a 780 or maybe a 780ti

The prices are pretty ridiculous.
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December 26, 2013 9:47:35 AM

BlankInsanity said:
BambiKiller said:
BlankInsanity said:
Woah!!!

15 Pounds for a 750W PSU?? never go cheap on a PSU when you're buying such a high end card. You most definitly need a new PSU. I would highly suggest the HX 750 or any 80Plus certified 750W PSU

Also, no, the GTX 960 should be getting well enough 60+FPS on BF4 even maxed out.

also that Processor of yours is a bit old to handle the bandwith of the 690.

Also can I ask..
Why did you get such an expensive GPU? I mean that card is roughly $1k USD... You could get an R9 290X and a Core core i5-3570k with enough money to buy an overkill PSU with $1k and that alone is a killer setup.

I mean a 690 on a cheap PSU setup wtih an AMD phenemon X4 is really not ideal. Did you think this through or just bought the most expensive card you could see?


Thanks for the response, I agree with you. The PSU is probably badly manufactured or something along those lines.

Also, WHY am I getting about 30 FPS on ULTRA in BF4? Is this caused by my Processor? Which cannot handle the bandwidth, as you said? Or is this the PSU's fault?

To answer your question, I bought the GTX 690 thinking it would run nicely for about 3 years and then I would have to upgrade my Processor and probably my PSU. It was on a deal with 400 pounds and I thought I would do some research to see how good it performs. I saw the videos about the GTX 690 vs GTX Titan and how it was saying the better one is GTX 690. After that I looked up the prices and noticed that this GTX 690 was relatively cheap compared to the other prices. So I thought, I have a decent enough PSU/Processor to run this, surely. And went ahead and ordered it.

What do you suggest? Selling the GTX 690 for a higher price and building the system you have mentioned?

"You could get an R9 290X and a Core core i5-3570k with enough money to buy an overkill PSU with $1k and that alone is a killer setup."

Or do you suggest just upgrading my Processor and PSU? And if I do, do I have to get a new motherboard aswell?
(I have an ASRock K10N78FullHD-hSLI)


judging by your motherboard your using an AMD CPU. now from my experiences Intel CPUs are more effecient and better at gaming but that's just my opinion. You will have to get a new motherboard if you upgrade the processor if the sockets don't match.

If you do plan on selling the GTX 690 which I would suggest I've built of nice build for you:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.96 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $970.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Now I did say you could get the R9 290 but, currently there are no aftermarket coolers for the R9 290 which means you'll be stuck with a reference card which goes up to 95C, which imo is terrible though AMD says it's ment to run up to those temps, you wouldn't want your case being an oven. So I picked a GTX 780 which will perform just aswell as the R9 290 however as your resolution increases the R9 290 will begin to have the edge in performance.
I gave you a 3570k because it's a great quad core and it's unlocked which I bundled with a cooler master Evo to keep it nice and cool even under overclocked conditions. Be warned when you install a new motherboard, use a new HDD otherwise you will experience issues, BIOS issues


Hello again,

I have ordered an 750w Corsair PSU that is certified 80+ costing 100 pounds. I will update you when it arrives.
Also, I really don't plan on upgrading my whole setup for another 1-2 years, but thanks for the PC setup you have created. As I said, when the PSU arrives I will test it and feedback.

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January 10, 2014 1:02:26 PM

smeezekitty said:
If the system powers down, it is almost certainly because of the crappy PSU


BlankInsanity said:
Woah!!!

15 Pounds for a 750W PSU?? never go cheap on a PSU when you're buying such a high end card. You most definitly need a new PSU. I would highly suggest the HX 750 or any 80Plus certified 750W PSU


Thanks, the problem has been solved after getting a new PSU ^_^ now I can enjoy ULTRA with 70-120 FPS on BATTLEFIELD 4, and other games. Thanks for your time.

Regards, Bambi.
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January 10, 2014 1:20:54 PM

BambiKiller said:
smeezekitty said:
If the system powers down, it is almost certainly because of the crappy PSU


BlankInsanity said:
Woah!!!

15 Pounds for a 750W PSU?? never go cheap on a PSU when you're buying such a high end card. You most definitly need a new PSU. I would highly suggest the HX 750 or any 80Plus certified 750W PSU


Thanks, the problem has been solved after getting a new PSU ^_^ now I can enjoy ULTRA with 70-120 FPS on BATTLEFIELD 4, and other games. Thanks for your time.

Regards, Bambi.

Your welcome, glad its working fine. When you feel the need to upgrade you won't need ot upgrade the 690. Just a new CPU and RAM will help.
Maybe a i5-3570K
and 16GB of ram, maybe Corsair
Youll see maybe 10-20fps boost

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