trouble overclocking with gigabyte 970A-UD3P board

[JohnBbDog]

ok here it goes, i have a FX 4350 and a GTX 650 Ti BOOST on a 970A-UD3P gigabyte motherboard, when i go into my BIOS and up my FSB and my VCORE it feels like its not overclocked in games, but when i run benchmarks it shows that i am, this is a very new board, it came out in August to replace the 970a d3p so i cant find much on it, i dont have a HT multiplier in the BIOS but i read that you just turn up ypur FSB if you dont have a HT multiplier in BIOS, am i missing something??
ty for your help

 

[Quaddro]

how much you overclock your processor..?
if you only add 100-300mhz, then the performance delta in games is negligible..

 

[JohnBbDog]

ya like 300 mhz n that makes my ghz up to 4.5, im stock at 4.2, im afraid to push it lol

 

[Quaddro]

well, that's it..
then the only way is upgrade your processor..

 

[JohnBbDog]

ya i figured, but i just got this processor a week ago lol

 

[yanis31]

i have this board too with a fx-6350.... seems to overclock fine... so far haven't pushed past 4.53 ghz but will at some point... you can feel the difference between this and stock 3.9(4.2 turbo) for sure... even windows becomes more snappy...

 

[JohnBbDog]

i have this board too with a fx-6350.... seems to overclock fine... so far haven't pushed past 4.53 ghz but will at some point... you can feel the difference between this and stock 3.9(4.2 turbo) for sure... even windows becomes more snappy...

well stock im at 4.2 and i can push it to 4.6, but i dont see the point cuz it feels the same in games, it is a great board tho

 

[yanis31]

that's because your graphics card is most likely the bottleneck... in such a scenario there is zero difference because you don't even use the full potential of your cpu... - you could try to run low resolution in games and monitor the FPS to see if it makes a difference that way if you want to be sure, because less load on gpu - more fps so you can get closer to the cpu limits
also install Hwinfo64 or some other good monitoring software and pay attention to all the temperatures and clocks for each core when you stress test it... sometimes you might get some throttling going on aat those speeds but it shouldn't happen with this board... still - i feel slightly more comfortable when i aim a fan at the vrm area if im oc'ing... the air around the cpu can get mighty hot there on load... some of the previous gigabyte's boards had problems with overheating vrm's and some throttling was happening... as i understand it should be fixed in these newer releases, but people are talking about the 990fx ud3 revision 4 ... not really sure what's going on with these 970 boards....

 

[JohnBbDog]

that's because your graphics card is most likely the bottleneck... in such a scenario there is zero difference because you don't even use the full potential of your cpu... - you could try to run low resolution in games and monitor the FPS to see if it makes a difference that way if you want to be sure, because less load on gpu - more fps so you can get closer to the cpu limits
also install Hwinfo64 or some other good monitoring software and pay attention to all the temperatures and clocks for each core when you stress test it... sometimes you might get some throttling going on aat those speeds but it shouldn't happen with this board... still - i feel slightly more comfortable when i aim a fan at the vrm area if im oc'ing... the air around the cpu can get mighty hot there on load... some of the previous gigabyte's boards had problems with overheating vrm's and some throttling was happening... as i understand it should be fixed in these newer releases, but people are talking about the 990fx ud3 revision 4 ... not really sure what's going on with these 970 boards....

no its not bottleneck, i run at 140-110 FPS,its a GTX 650 Ti BOOST, i got good air flow, the 4350 cant really ovc much,i think thats cuz its at stock 4.2 if i get a SSD i think that would really boost things alot, the card temp never goes past 66C n the cpu never goes past 51C, when i ovc, the windows experience index goes up to 7.5 from 7.2 but i still dont see any in-game performance boost, with 4.2 cpu speed i should be tearing ppl up in games

 

[yanis31]

i don't know about the 4350 but the piledriver 6 cores and 8 cores can usually overclock to 5ghz and more, so probably the 4 core can too,
not sure what games you play but most modern titles you will NOT be able to run at 140-110 fps with a 650ti boost, no way in hell, not on max settings only if you use a low resolution... i have 1080p monitor so that's my reference for things
the card is about as powerful as a gtx560 ti... a 660 is still more powerful, and that's not even the current mid range card anymore... the 760 is which is again quite a bit faster...
just do a simpel test to find bottlenecks,
install Msi afterburner or Asus gpu-tweak ... EVGA precision, one of those that have a monitoring graph available,
and run it in the background as well as your cpu load monitor,
if you see one of them hitting the ceiling while other one rests - the one that's on full load is the bottleneck, because it slows down the other,
the thing people don't seem to understand - there is ALWAYS a bottleneck - in every system at any given point in time,
it might just be so tiny that you don't see it - that's what's called a well balanced system,
but the bottleneck still would vary from gpu to cpu depending where you are in the game... while you look at the sky or some wall on closeup your gpu doesn't need much effort to render it so it jumps up to as high as the processor can go or other way around when you have alot of visual "goodies" on your screen but not necessary something that tortures the cpu,- like lots of physics and explosions and many players, enemies etc. etc.
then your cpu will rest while gpu catches up...
still the 6300 or 6350 would have been a better choice... they give bettr fps in most games and are actually very close to the 8 cores while the cost is much closer to the 4 core...
and also - how would one complain about 140-110fps.... obviously you won't see much of a difference because it is already what i would like to call -
Focken' smooth
and just please don't tell me you do not own a 120hz or higher monitor and are trying to see a difference between higher fps than your monitor can physically produce .... please don't