Samsung 840 EVO SSD Drive creating much longer boot time versus a Corsair Force GT

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I have an Asus p8z68-v pro gen3 which has been paired previously with a Corsair Force GT SSD drive (120) which I had pretty much maxed out in terms of space. There is also a pair of Samsung HDDs.

I got for X-mas a new Samsung 840 EVO SSD (250) drive with bigger capacity and installed it through Samsung's cloning software.

Seemed like everything was going fine, but I have noticed that with the new SSD drive, my boot times are significantly longer (20 seconds added, easy).

I was wondering if anyone has experienced such a problem before, and if so, how to fix it?

I assume an 840 EVO is a faster beast than a Corsair GT?

Thanks for any tweaking help you could provide.
 
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Tom Tancredi
Mmmm if the problem is when Windows 8 is loading in itself, it probably is something extra running you don't need and is slowing down 8's boot sequence when done. First I would try Auslogic Bootspeed to go through and optimize the startup. I would also make sure you run Windows Update and install all options (except Bing) and updates, to include 8.1 . Lastly then I would download and run Slim Drivers to update all drivers, make sure the system didn't have a old I/O controller or such in there.
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Did you leave the other SSD in the system after you completed the clone? Could the BIOS be looking for that hard drive first in the boot priority? Are you using a SATA III port on the motherboard for the boot drive or might you have accidentally plugged it into a SATAII port? Most of these considerations wouldn't cause a boot time of 20 seconds more, but could be contributing factors. The likelihood is that there were optimizations of some kind on your previous hard drive that transferred to the new hard drive and are causing it to hiccup.

Is the new drive formatted as AHCI or IDE in the BIOS? SSDs should typically be installed as AHCI, so you may want to check that as it could be a source of issues.

Personally I try to avoid cloning whenever possible as fresh installations are a magical way to get the best performance out of your operating system's boot times/program launch times/etc. However, I understand if there are two many programs/settings/etc that you don't want to lose/recreate.
 
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kimmetje

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Thanks for getting in touch OrangeDriver :) - The old SSD drive has been taken completely off the system, and I've double-checked the cables and they are all connected correctly.

SATA is setup for AHCI and S.M.A.R.T. is enabled but I cannot tell if any individual one is misconfigured.

Fully agree with you on a clean install... :) I guess for a simple HD upgrade, it seemed a bit overkill to do a complete system re-install...

I also double-checked performance on AS SSD and it has a 453 read score, 355 write, total 1051 so I think its operating at expected spec...
 
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A SSD in general is fast, normally there isn't that much of a issue UNLESS there is a problem with Windows. Now as you observe the 'slowness' when do you see it dragging its heels? If you tried to boot to safemode does ti work faster? Have you also checked the SamSung Magician program (was just updated) to make sure the BIOS is up to date, the software is up to date, the drive has been optimized, etc?
 
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Hey popatim, I'm on EXT0BB6Q, it's the latest firmware. Just re-ran the AS SSD and now am reaching 745 on read, 2776 on write reaching a 3927 total.

@Tom -> Two stages, at the very beginning of the boot sequence, but in particular at the Windows 8 loading sequence just prior to logging in. Once that's through it's fine.

Magician is at version 4.3. I've ran the optimisation. The performance benchmark for Magician says 4065 MB/s for sequential read, 788 MB/s for Sequential write, 12537 for Random Write, and 163918 for random read.... I've also enabled RAPID mode.

BIOS is also at the latest release, as far as I can tell.
 
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Mmmm if the problem is when Windows 8 is loading in itself, it probably is something extra running you don't need and is slowing down 8's boot sequence when done. First I would try Auslogic Bootspeed to go through and optimize the startup. I would also make sure you run Windows Update and install all options (except Bing) and updates, to include 8.1 . Lastly then I would download and run Slim Drivers to update all drivers, make sure the system didn't have a old I/O controller or such in there.
 
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It's looking like most of those suggestions have done the trick. I have shaved 20 seconds so that the boot time is now within 5-10 seconds which is where I would expect it to be. :)

Thanks so much for all of your help guys.
 
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