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Cloned Samsung 840 Pro SSD not booting properly

I have a Samsung Ativ Book 8 purchased earlier this month, and immediately installed Windows 8.1 (from Windows 8..0?). I recently received a Samsung 840 Pro 512GB SSD for Christmas to replace the 1TB HDD currently installed. I purchased an Apricorn SATA Wire 3.0 to plug in the SSD and clone it. The reviews were 4/5 on Amazon, which is good enough for me. First off, the Samsung Magician Software reads the drive as "Apricorn SCSI Disk Device 476.94GB", not as an SSD (it says upon starting the program "Magician was unable to find a Samsung SSD connected to your system. Some Magician features may not work correctly"). However, the Apricorn SATA wire came with a cloning utility of its own (which I had to find online because I do not have a disk drive). It of course recognized that the 840 Pro was connected (though it did not have a name, just a capacity, also 476.94 GB), so I proceeded to clone my "Local Disk (C)". Once it was finished, it showed it in Windows Explorer as "Local Disk (D)"; everything seemed to have cloned properly.

I didn't think anything of it.

I opened up the laptop, took out the old Toshiba HDD, put in the new SSD, snapped it up again, and turned it on. Immediately, it said (and I'm paraphrasing) that not everything was connected properly, that devices required for boot did not exist. Some blue screen with three options, along the lines of "retry" and a couple other options. Regardless, "esc" put me into the Aptio BIOS. I turned off secure boot, but honestly beyond there I had no idea what needed to be done, so in the mean time, I've reinstalled my old hard drive and now I'm back where I started.

I would assume I should not have progressed beyond the SSD not being recognized by Magician, and perhaps fixing that first. I went into the BIOS with the old hard drive and manually enabled AHCI mode (thinking that maybe had something to do with it). Magician still does not recognize it.

Please help me. I feel really bad for my parents buying me this SSD and I cannot get it to work. I have watched numerous videos of people installing the 840 Pro w/o issue, so it really angers me that I have an issue. I hope I don't sound snobby or selfish, I was just really hoping this wouldn't be a complicated process. Let me know what you need to know (and how to find it), and I'll be happy to provide.
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  1. Sounds like you just made a copy of the drive. Not a clone.
  2. spooky2th said:
    Sounds like you just made a copy of the drive. Not a clone.

    Okay. Interesting. Could you explain what the difference is?

    I've formatted the SSD using Disk Utility to blank it out and I'm going to clone it using a different tool called "EaseUS ToDo Backup Free". I'll update if anything new occurs. This time, once it's finished, I'm going to change the boot order in the BIOS to the SSD as attached via USB to see if it boots.
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    After cloning, install the SSD into the same port that the original drive was. And I bet if cloning was successful, you will see the SSD boot fast and without any problems. And the ssd will behave like the original drive, only faster.
  4. spooky2th said:
    After cloning, install the SSD into the same port that the original drive was. And I bet if cloning was successful, you will see the SSD boot fast and without any problems. And the ssd will behave like the original drive, only faster.

    So it worked! I have no idea why this time and not last time. Odd. I appreciate the help.

    In summary, use: "EaseUS ToDo Backup Free" to clone your drive. It's slow as hell but it works.
  5. Extra: I used the cloning tool by Samsung a lot, but on a HP system I issued some major problems. Also used the given programs as you all recommended but no result. My solution for my problem(s) seemed to be: Disable Rapid mode and over over provisioning and than clone. Than you need to recover the boot with your Windows CD/ create startup CD first. I hope this contributes to peoples troubleshooting.
  6. This counts for all the SAMSUNG SSD's booting problems/ MBR/ cloning/ Data migration stuf I suppose.
  7. From what I gather from a review of the Apricon device is that it's simply a SATA-to-USB adapter that's bundled with a disk-cloning program. I've never worked with that particular program so I'm not familiar with it.

    Assuming that your laptop's 1 TB HDD is non-defective in that it boots & functions without any problems and your new Samsung SSD is similarly non-defective and finally that the TOTAL data currently residing on the 1 TB HDD is LESS than the 512 GB disk-capacity of the Samsung 840 Pro SSD, you should be able to successfully clone the contents of the HDD to the SSD.

    Rather than using the Apricon disk-cloning program, use the Samsung Data Migration program that was bundled with the SSD to perform the disk-cloning operation. Here are some instructions for using the program...

    (Before you begin ensure that the only drives that are connected in the system are the source & destination drives, i.e., your HDD & SSD. Uninstall any other storage devices such as a flash drive, USB external HDD, etc.)

    1. With both your HDD & SSD connected boot the system. The system will, of course, boot to the HDD's OS.

    2. Install the Samsung Data Migration program on the HDD. The program is included in the CD bundled with the Samsung SSD package. The SDM program is a nice piece of work for cloning the contents of a disk to a Samsung SSD. It's simple-to-use and straightforward in design. We've used it many times with different systems and it worked flawlessly. You should have little trouble in using that program as long as your source disk is completely functional without any problems of its own.

    3. Access the program and click Start.

    4. The Source Disk (your HDD) and the Target Disk (your SSD) will be identified.

    5. Click Start.

    6. Click Yes when the confirmation message appears.

    7. The disk-cloning process will begin. It can be a lengthy process depending upon the amount of data that's being cloned.

    8. When the cloning process has successfully completed a message will appear to that effect.

    9. Click Quit, then Shut Down.

    10. After the system has been shut down install the SSD to the laptop as your boot drive.

    11. Presumably you're going to utilize the HDD as a storage/backup disk connected to the laptop via the Apricon adapter as a USB external device. BUT DO NOT MAKE ANY MAJOR CHANGES TO YOUR HDD UNTIL YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THE NEWLY-CLONED SSD PROPERLY BOOTS & FUNCTIONS.
  8. Extra: I used the cloning tool by Samsung a lot, but on a HP system I issued some major problems. Also used the given programs as you all recommended but no result. My solution for my problem(s) seemed to be: Disable Rapid mode and over over provisioning and than clone. Than you need to recover the boot with your Windows CD/ create startup CD first. I hope this contributes to peoples troubleshooting.

    This counts for all the SAMSUNG SSD's booting problems/ MBR/ cloning/ Data migration stuf I suppose.

    I post this again so it stays easy visible seen the post that came after me is not so important (I find).
  9. As long as you've found a solution to your problem that's all that counts.

    All I can tell you is that we've used the Samsung Data Migration program about 50X with a wide variety of systems (including HP desktops/laptops) and encountered no problems, assuming...
    1. The source drive was non-defective in that it booted & functioned problem-free, and,
    2. The total data residing on the source disk was less than the disk-space capacity of the Samsung destination SSD.
    3. Both the source & destination drives were properly connected in the system.

    In those cases that came to our attention where a user reported a problem with the SDM program, invariably we traced the problem to either user error in using the SDM program or one or more of the above requirements were not met. I can recall only a single instance involving a defective Samsung SSD.
  10. Adding 2 cents worth...

    After making many clones successfully, Some months ago, I began having problems with clones being unable to see some external drives and flash cards etc... Eventually, I decided something hand changed and started looking for why. I found the advice to turn Samsung's rapid mode off in this thread: http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/375139-usb-drive-not-working-after-samsung-ssd-850-cloned.html

    This worked. Yippee!

    Go into Samsung's Magician software and turn off Rapid mode.
    Reboot if needed
    Confirm Rapid mode is off
    Plugin external drive
    Clone drive onto external as normal...

    I'm still using "EaseUS Todo Backup Free 6.0", which works for me...
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