Questions about my first gaming Rig

xCoDexReDx17

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I am building my first gaming pc, and I would like to know a few things.
- Here is the link to my build, http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view
1. I would like to know if all my parts are compatible with each other.
2. I would like to know if there are anyways I could save money with this build, without giving up quality.
3.Is their a cheaper graphics card that offers similar performance to the GTX 770
4. Will the Internal Network card be compatible with the motherboard.
5. Will this Water Cooling System keep my CPU cool
6. Is the PSU good enough, or is it overkill
Their is a special on Newegg until the 31'st, so i will be getting a very great price for this build, I hope. I will most likely be purchasing this rig tommorow, so quick responses would be greatly appreciated.

 
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As for your other queries, you can get a Radeon HD7870 GPU which is cheaper and offers nearly identical performance figures. Also, buy not buying the cooling, you can save some $$$. The PSU is good enough and you wouldn't want to go for something lesser than 600W for this setup. Also, you must not forget that the H61M-S1 is not WiFi enabled and it only has one PCI slot (Will be used by the GPU) and so you will only be able to use a LAN cable. Hope this helped. Cheers!

EDIT: If your PC doesn't recognize the LAN cable then re-install the motherboard drivers as I encountered the same problem.

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It shows that the cart is empty whwn I clicked the link. I guess it showed my cart. You could either build one at http://pcpartpicker.com/ or write the desired parts individually. Usually, ATI/AMD equivalents of Nvidia cards are cheaper and offer better fps in some games. Hence, if you're on a budget, you may want to consider buying an ATI card. However, don't be greedy as all that will do is waste time and if you get a product which is cheaper but of bad quality, you'll suffer.
 

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I'll be damned. That's exactly my setup! So much so that even the keyboard and mouse are the same! I can safely say that you won't need an additional fan unless you are going to push your rig to the limits. Before buying the RAM, look for a 1x8GB as thr H61M-S1 has only 2RAM slots. My monitor is the same as yours and it doesn't have an HDMI in. However, I have a Cooler Master Thunder 600W PSU. I wouldn't suggest spending money on a separate cooler now, in stead by one when you need it as the stock cooler is just fine and comes with a copper core too. I'll also attach my setup so that you can get some idea of your machine.

My setup-
Intel Core i5 3330 @ 3.00Ghz
Kingston 8GB RAM (2x4GB)
WD Caviar Green 1TB HDD
Cooler Master Thunder 600W PSU
Microsoft 200 Wired Keyboard and Mouse
Gigabyte H61M-S1 Motherboard (Micro ATX)
LG DVD Writer
Circle PC Cabinet
Samsung S22C450B Monitor
Zotac Nvidia GTX660 2GB GPU
 

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As for your other queries, you can get a Radeon HD7870 GPU which is cheaper and offers nearly identical performance figures. Also, buy not buying the cooling, you can save some $$$. The PSU is good enough and you wouldn't want to go for something lesser than 600W for this setup. Also, you must not forget that the H61M-S1 is not WiFi enabled and it only has one PCI slot (Will be used by the GPU) and so you will only be able to use a LAN cable. Hope this helped. Cheers!

EDIT: If your PC doesn't recognize the LAN cable then re-install the motherboard drivers as I encountered the same problem.
 
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xCoDexReDx17

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Wow That's to funny, I just thought this would be a good way to get into the feel of pc gaming. I probally will not get the liquid cooling just yet, because I don't plan on overclocking anytime soon. Also, I think ill get the 600 watt psu, since the machine will only be drawing 418 watts. Thank you very much for your response, and I would like to see your build.
 

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Well sure! Just tell me where to send them :p

 

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Yep! However, if you're fine on not having an SLI, not using WiFi, and you don't mind only 2 RAM slots, I guess you'll be happy with this. Almost all of the budget mobos have 2 RAM slots and 1 slot for a GPU. However, if you want to extend your budget then look at the Intel DH77EB motherboard. This has 4 RAM slots, but only 1 GPU slot. Since I was on a tight budget I chose the Gigabyte H61M-S1. However, Asus makes some quality products so you may want to check them out. Hope this helped.
 

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Thats the thing I need a motherboard, that supports at least 2 pci ports, because Im living in a hotel atm and i need a wifi card. And after I leave the hotel, Ill also need the wifi their too.
 

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I suggest you go for a slightly expensive motherboard then. Go for something like an Asus P8B75-MLX PLUS Motherboard. It has one slot for the GPU, 2 for RAM and one for WiFi. Hope this helped! :D
 

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I suggest you go for a slightly expensive motherboard then. Go for something like an Asus P8B75-MLX PLUS Motherboard. It has one slot for the GPU, 2 for RAM and one for WiFi. Hope this helped! :D[/quotemsg]

The only problem with that motherboard is it supports an LGA 1155 chipset. my i5 4770K is an LGA 1150. I found the MSI CSM - B85M and it has a couple PCI slots. And again, thanks for your help
 

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The only problem with that motherboard is it supports an LGA 1155 chipset. my i5 4770K is an LGA 1150. I found the MSI CSM - B85M and it has a couple PCI slots. And again, thanks for your help
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You are most welcome... Any questions, just ask. I'll always be happy to help :)
 

xCoDexReDx17

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I tweaked with the system a little more and i think this is my finalized setup, i am just going to type it out this this time.

CPU- Intel Core i5 4770K
GPU - Gigabyte Geforce GTX 770 4gb DDR5
PSU - Corsair 650w
Motherboard - MSI CSM-B85M-E45 LGA 1150 Intel B85 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Intel Motherboard
RAM - G-SKILL Ripjaw X series 8gb (4x2)
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 2 TB
Optical Drive - Asus DRW
Case - Cooler Master HAF 922 ( Yes this case is pretty expensive but it is really good on cooling)
Wifi - Startech PCI Express Wireless N Adapter
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Cooler Master Seidon 120 mm Water Cooling
Extras: Logitech MK200 Black USB Wired Slim Mouse and Keyboard Combo, Mouse Pad, Turtle Beach TBS
In total - $1,371.85 (I am going to Finance these items so the price will go down like $400)
P.S - All of these parts are purchased for Newegg

I decided to buy the Water cooling so i can prepare myself for what could happen in the future. I will be doing Heavy gaming on this machine so I want to make sure everything will be as cool as it can be. I don't plan on Overclocking my CPU right away, but I may do it in the future.


 

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All I can say is- Amazing! Your set up is just too good. However, even if you don't plan on OCing right now, I'd say that the PSU is slightly on the lower side. Hence, in the future when you do chose to OC, you may need to upgrade the PSU. I'd suggest going for something above 700W to be safe. Badass build. Enjoy man!
 

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CPU- Intel Core i5 4770K
GPU - Gigabyte Geforce GTX 770 4gb DDR5
PSU - Corsair 650w
Motherboard - MSI CSM-B85M-E45 LGA 1150 Intel B85 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Intel Motherboard
RAM - G-SKILL Ripjaw X series 8gb (4x2)
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 2 TB
Optical Drive - Asus DRW
Case - Cooler Master HAF 922 ( Yes this case is pretty expensive but it is really good on cooling)
Wifi - Startech PCI Express Wireless N Adapter
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Cooler Master Seidon 120 mm Water Cooling
Extras: Logitech MK200 Black USB Wired Slim Mouse and Keyboard Combo, Mouse Pad, Turtle Beach TBS
In total - $1,371.85 (I am going to Finance these items so the price will go down like $400)
P.S - All of these parts are purchased for Newegg


I really should not comment as you have made up your mind on what you are going to build and it seems KillerGamer thinks it’s a great rig. But I don’t agree, please take my suggestions as just suggestions of how I see things in your system.

First off, the 4770k is an i7, not an i5. Second, I would never plant such a powerful CPU on a cheap MB that cannot OC in the first place (you will not be OCing your CPU ever on this board) with a B85 chipset, only 1 PCIe 3.0 slot and supports only 1600 memory, this board is made for an i3 in a $400 rig.

Your WCing AIO is not very good at all for the money. Take a look at something like this, it is a much better system than what you have put together, we need to balance the overall performance to make a gamer that rocks and has the capability to upgrade in the future. If you comment on this I will post a parts list for you….
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($509.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1454.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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endeavour37a

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This has a bigger PS so you can add a 2nd 780 in a year or so if you want to go with 3 screens...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($509.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1499.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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xCoDexReDx17

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I am not on a very strict budget, but I would like to try to not go over $1600. I have one question though, how does the GTX 780 cost so much more than the 770, since its a 3gb card anth the 770 is a 4gb. I have know need for an SSD so I may take that out of the first build so I can save a little bit of money. Thanks for letting me know about the motherboard, since I want this build to be as futureproof as possible. I will build the first rig on Newegg and post the price after im done finding the parts.
 

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I got all the parts you put on the first build, and put them in my Newegg cart, it totaled to $1518.86. Would I just be better getting the 770 and save like $200. How much better does the 780 perform than the 770? Because I do plan on running graphically intense games such as, BF4, BF3, Arma 3, DayZ, and Crysis. I know the 780 will be able to Max out all these games at 1080 30+ FPS., but will the 770 be enough to run all these at least on high, but preferably on Ultra 1080p 30+ FPS. I also plan on disabling AA, MSAA, so that will probally improve my FPS a lot. If I do get the GTX 770, I want it last me at least a year.
 

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I already picked a solution, can i change it.
 

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Ok dude, both the 770 & 780 are gonna run those games maxed out with some anti-aliasing turned down for the 770, I'm also assuming days standalone and at the moment no graphics card can max that game out. Alternatively you can go with endeavour's build with the bigger PSU, buy 1 gtx 770 and later buy a 2nd gtx 770 so you can SLI. You can also get 2 r9 280's which come with 3GB of VRAM, if 2GB is concerning you which are equivalent to 2gtx 770's with the only exception being ARMA3 seeing as that is a nvidia optimised game. :/ honestly though I'd go with 1 gtx 780 as of now, and see what happens later. If you need another you will get another, and if you don't then you save yourself a bit of hassle and money. Endeavour's build is pretty good as it is(the one with the bigger PSU) and if you have no need for the ssd then remove it and save towards a 2nd 780.
 

endeavour37a

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Here is a list that is all from NE, where you are going to get everything. Trust me, you would really benefit from an SSD for a boot disk, it won't help in gaming but it will make your system overall much faster, they are a very nice part of a new rig.

I put a 770 back in this build, it should be fine for a single screen. The PS is big enough to let you add another 770 later on if you need more performance or go with 3 screens.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.20 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($350.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1380.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-27 17:48 EST-0500)