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Sysprep an EFI boot AHCI mode SSD for installation on an 1150 Z87 mobo, (from 1155 z77) ivy bridge to haswell.

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December 27, 2013 10:28:39 PM

If I sysprep my efi ahci boot SDD can I move it to my new haswell build with out the risk of reformatting? ( to avoid having to reinstall win8 and then having to re-update to win 8.1)

In other words I'd like to run sysprep on my EFI boot AHCI mode SSD. So that I can install it on an 1150 Z87 mobo.

Old system was i3 2100, socket 1155 Sandy Bridge, ASUS P8-H61m csm.

New system is i5 4670k, socket 1150 Haswell, AsRock Fatal1ty Z87 Professional.

I'm curious if I sysprep an efi boot GPT system drive will it really remove the chipset drivers from the efi "firmware"partition and allow it to boot on dif chipset / firmware?

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.

PS... Because of the budget for this build, I really want to keep my legit win8 key & stay with my current 8.1 update. As there is no release to public 8.1 .iso available for download that isn't a volume licensing copy. This also let's me avoid reinstalling all my programs.

If any one has attempted this or can steer me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated.

More details available if needed.

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a c 417 * Windows 8
December 27, 2013 11:04:31 PM

TEFjLONjDON said:
If I sysprep my efi ahci boot SDD can I move it to my new haswell build with out the risk of reformatting? ( to avoid having to reinstall win8 and then having to re-update to win 8.1)

In other words I'd like to run sysprep on my EFI boot AHCI mode SSD. So that I can install it on an 1150 Z87 mobo.

Old system was i3 2100, socket 1155 Sandy Bridge, ASUS P8-H61m csm.

New system is i5 4670k, socket 1150 Haswell, AsRock Fatal1ty Z87 Professional.

I'm curious if I sysprep an efi boot GPT system drive will it really remove the chipset drivers from the efi "firmware"partition and allow it to boot on dif chipset / firmware?

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.

PS... Because of the budget for this build, I really want to keep my legit win8 key & stay with my current 8.1 update. As there is no release to public 8.1 .iso available for download that isn't a volume licensing copy. This also let's me avoid reinstalling all my programs.

If any one has attempted this or can steer me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated.

More details available if needed.

This link was used to d'load Win 8 (Retail/OEM) and has been updated to include 8.1
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?linkid=271128

Meanwhile i'd be sorely tempted just to drop the HDD as is into your new build and see what happens. Win 8 pretty good at adapting to new situations, though I haven't tried it in an EFI rig yet...
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December 28, 2013 5:42:04 AM

Thank you dodger45 for the quick responce. I do believe that there is some method by which I can make a .iso for "clean install", rather than just the standard "update your currently installed OS" .ISO image. However that is that method is still unclear to me. Also after I successfully determine the method above, I will still need to create suitable efi bootable USB media from the "Clean Install" .iso for proper installation onto a GPT format SSD.. I believe I will also need to have a valid 8.1 key rather then a 8.0 upgrade key to successfully download from this link. Has anyone been able to accomplish this?
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a c 417 * Windows 8
December 28, 2013 6:06:37 AM

TEFjLONjDON said:
Thank you dodger45 for the quick responce. I do believe that there is some method by which I can make a .iso for "clean install", rather than just the standard "update your currently installed OS" .ISO image. However that is that method is still unclear to me. Also after I successfully determine the method above, I will still need to create suitable efi bootable USB media from the "Clean Install" .iso for proper installation onto a GPT format SSD.. I believe I will also need to have a valid 8.1 key rather then a 8.0 upgrade key to successfully download from this link. Has anyone been able to accomplish this?

Run the software from the link, if your Product key is accepted you will be given choices, 8 or 8.1, and choice of media, ISO for Disk burning or Flash drive.
There is also a separate link for Upgrade versions here
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=262204


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December 30, 2013 4:52:08 AM

Thank you dodger46 I'll give that a try..
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a c 417 * Windows 8
December 30, 2013 5:37:36 AM

TEFjLONjDON said:
solved but not really!!!

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Did you manage to D'load an ISO from any of the links? if you need assistance in creating a USB install, just holler...

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January 1, 2014 11:46:30 PM

for other readers that might still be interested in the possibility of syspreping their drives prior to rebuilding or migrating to new hardware. I have bad news. In fact by default, upgraded OS's are not allowed to successfully perform a sysprep on their drives. This is unsupported by Microsoft. Most likely because sysprep is designed more for capturing the image of a system after removing the hardware specific drivers in order to use the image for deployment purposes. And as we all know they dont want us to have that ability with out first verifying that we have a valid qualifying licence key for the OS and the proper number of licences. I encourage you to research the use of sysprep commands and gui before you continue any further. However there is a method to mitigate the error messages and force run sysprep. This link " https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=aUz... " gives a fairly detailed tutorial of how to accomplish this on a Windows 8.0 OS that has been upgraded to 8.1 THROUGH THE WINDOWS STORE. NOT THE DOWNLOADABLE UPGRADE ISO.
I did successfully strip the drivers from my efi installation of win8 (with win store 8.1 upgrade.) Another note worth mentioning is that the tutorial doesn't mention to viewers that they need to unlock the hidden administrator account and then sign out of their user account, then login to the now unlocked and accessible administrator account, prior to running the sysprep commands.

Here is a link on how to unlock the hidden administrator account.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=FQr...

It will make no difference if you unlock the hidden administrator account and perform the tutorials steps before or afterwards as long as you Run sysprep from the administration account. Also it will almost certainly fail with a quote unquote "fatal error" but its okay read on. Make sure you chose shutdown option, not restart. And if your purpose is to generalize for new hardware configurations like in my case the make sure to select generalize.
After you see the error, if the system did shutdown your still good to go. If its still on, try to run it again ( just to be safe) note you will need to go back into regedit and change the system status keys to both sevens again. Like in the video. Now run the second time with the same options. If you see the same "fatal error" message, Then it shutdown manually. If you find a situation where your screen is blank, this is because it removed the hardware driver for your graphics. ie... it was successful at removing the drivers. (I-GPU & or GPU card) simply allow a rational amount of time to pass so the system can complete any necessary tasks then power off manually. Normally just a single press of the power button will do. If after 3-4 minutes the system is still on then hold the power button for about 6-7 seconds and the system will shutdown. At any point after the command has been run and the system shuts down!!!! Do not restart the system!!! Remove the drive for transfer, or perform the swap of what ever components that made this necessary in the first place.

Finally Once you boot the new config you should see the welcome first run screen. Congrats success.... If you do not see the setting things up this might take a minute screens then let the system continue to boot the os. You should now see the new drivers being picked up and scanned for.... If your system gets past its first post and you boot strait back to the OS as normal then congrats. You did it.
If you are directed to startup repair then allow the automated repair. It could take two or more attempts at the repair. If this is your case, it is likely that the sysprep never succeeded but the os will now basically attempt to do it for you.

As always I make no guaranties or warranties as to your individual out come. The steps here are at your own risk. I'm simply telling you what worked for me..
I tried this on 3 extra occasions using slightly different steps and configurations just so that I could help explain different possible outcomes.. please note you will most likely need to reinter your product key for the os. Or restore a backup of tokens you saved to a data disk earlier. I did not at the upload video. And it is worth noting, that the maker if the video did so on a virtual system running in a hypervisor such as hyper-v. As always backup EVERYTHING first. I suggest taking a tokens backup as well. If need be you can always phone activate.

Also, make sure to have All essential hardware drivers like your LAN, WiFi or graphics drivers stored on an accessible media like USB 2.0 or CD or on an internal data disk that is linked directly to the system not on a raid card or driver dependent device. Most USB 2.0 drivers are available to the os by default and will install as needed. It may be possible that you will requiring the os DVD/CD for this, but not in most cases. All manufacturers are different. Good luck, I wish you much success. And "Happy New Year".

IMPORTANT!!! note if did not create a throwaway account with admin right or unlock the hidden admin account then you will most likely have only a fraction of the tiles left that you had on your windows start screen after you do this. You will also have an issue with " Metro style PC Setting" force closing. You can solve this by running this at elevated command prompt with administrative rights. "
powershell -ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register $Env:SystemRoot\WinStore\AppxManifest.xml "
If you still have issues read here...
following this link & Go to page six. I'll pate the text below the link.
http://www.eightforums.com/software-apps/33515-windows-...
Copied text bellow.
""""Have been having the same issues since upgrading to Windows 8.1 on Sunday night. Everything in the desktop world works normally but the entire metro world (store, apps, even PC settings) doesn't work. I was able to get my Windows Store app to start working by using the following command in the Command Prompt (Admin):

powershell -ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register $Env:SystemRoot\WinStore\AppxManifest.xml

Once I had the store back and running I was going to try to uninstall and reinstall apps. However, when I tried this, I got an error from the Windows Store of:
Error code 0x8007002

This was for anything I was trying to install.

Next, I was going to try and set-up a new user to see if I would have the same issues. However, I was not able to do this in PC settings as it was not working and Control Panel refers to PC settings to do this. However, I did find the command prompt to do this:
net UserName /add

Once I did this, it showed up in control panel as a User Account I manipulated. I did not assign it administrative rights yet.

I logged off my administrator account and logged into this new account that is a local account only at this point and, what do you know, my Metro apps are working, including PC Settings. This is as far as I have currently gotten but I would love to know why this would be the case. I can go ahead and try to transfer admin rights, and set-up everything that I have now under the new user account but I would love to avoid that if possible since it is like having to setup the computer again.""""

Also one more thing. You do not need to get your SSID as is shown in the video. The uploader did this only to prove that he is using the same virtual operating system running before and after the sysprep is performed.
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January 2, 2014 12:13:02 AM

Thank you again dodger46. I was unable to dl from them so I called MS and In fact my installation key for windows 8.0 was an " upgrade key" from windows 7. Because I purchased my original hardware in a preinstalled system just after the release of windows 8. They gave me a windows 8 key i then took advantage of the free upgrade to media center pack because i missed being able to watch dvds. So now this key is not ellagable for free upgrade to windows 8.1 or so I'm told. But it did let me upgrade to win8.1 from the store when it first came out.

And I'd like to mention that because I had ran OOBE when I clean installed 8.0 last time and set my users folder to reside on D: it was a chore to make the upgrade to 8.1 work. I've been in licencing hell for far too long.....

I suppose I'm being cheap, and should invest in the retail 8.1 pro with media center DVD. I was hoping to have more faith in 8.1 but so far its been a nightmare too. I love some of the things like better bitlocker, better partition alignment, the newer taskmanager views and the upgraded disk optimization vs disk defrag ( I have SSDs) but the issues with the metro apps and PC settings discourage me. I hope the next MS OS is an entirely new platform. But maybe I should be careful what I wish for. Any who if I notice performance issues its most likely because I need to clean install again not the platforms fault. So I'll keep that in mind next time I'm on the phone with MS. I'll take advantage of the $40.00 clean install Dvds they told me about yesterday....
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