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December 28, 2013 3:16:20 AM

I'm sorry if I come off as 'one of those people' who doesn't look in the forum archives for similar questions.
I truly have tried, but haven't been successful. :( 

In any case, I'm trying to upgrade a computer I had. Here is a list of the components of my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ruW1

I tried putting the whole thing together, but and the LED lights came on and the fans came on for the CPU fan, case, and graphics card, but nothing showed up on my monitor.

I don't have a speaker at the moment to hear the beep to tell me what's wrong. I went ahead and ordered one but I want to see if someone here can help me before then.

Anyways, I looked in the forums and saw it could be a whole list of reasons, and the best bet is to try and disassemble everything and reassemble only the core parts, such as the graphics card, cpu, 1 dimm, and power connectors. I've done that, and still nothing shows on my screen.

What could be the problem?

I'm pretty sure it's not the graphics card, because I tried using the older one I had to no avail.. so it has to be something else that's not making the monitor stay blank.

Everything is seated securely, I properly grounded myself... So right now, I'm stuck :( 

I saw mentions of clearing the cmos, but I can't seem to find the pins for that. I know it can be listed as a bunch of things such as Clear Bios/CLR CMOS etc..The only thing I see that might be related is 'Cleartc' which is adjacent the bios battery. Is that it?

Any suggestions?

Sorry for the long post. :( 

EDIT:
I think I found the problem. I had it down to the video card, cpu, motherboard and cpu fan being the only things connected, but it couldn't have been the video card because I tried using my older one, the one known to work, and the monitor still showed nothing.

I looked over everything again and it seems there are some bent pins on my cpu. The cpu is attached to the heatsink, and I didn't notice, so when I removed the heatsink and set it aside, I probably bent them then. I tried rebending them, but one broke off and I can't find it :( 

I tried putting booting the computer anyways, to see if maybe that had been a grounding pin that isn't as essential (as people on forums said), but still no signal.

I guess I may have to buy another cpu :( 

TL;DR: Found three bent pins on cpu, fixed two, one broke off. Oh no. Need to buy another I guess.

December 28, 2013 4:00:29 AM

Sorry for saying, but did you connect the cpu power cable? And did you try booting with a single ram stick? And probably the best to do is to wait for that speaker. If that doesn't make any sound i would contact the seller and tell them you think it's a bad motherboard.

Maybe you have older pc parts laying around.. try booting with another psu, to exclude the psu as well for example.

In the netherlands you can return anything you buy on the internet for no reason within something like 8 days.. maybe you can do that as well and buy a new motherboard.

anyway good luck, those kind of things are quite annoying.. :( 
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December 28, 2013 5:13:43 AM

Praise_Gaben said:
Sorry for saying, but did you connect the cpu power cable? And did you try booting with a single ram stick? And probably the best to do is to wait for that speaker. If that doesn't make any sound i would contact the seller and tell them you think it's a bad motherboard.

Maybe you have older pc parts laying around.. try booting with another psu, to exclude the psu as well for example.

In the netherlands you can return anything you buy on the internet for no reason within something like 8 days.. maybe you can do that as well and buy a new motherboard.

anyway good luck, those kind of things are quite annoying.. :( 


I did plug in the cpu cable and with a single stick. I should mention that the only things I'm not upgrading in the system is the cpu, motherboard, cpu fan, psu, and ram. They're in my PCpartpickerlist, but I've already had them and they're known to work.
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December 28, 2013 5:29:39 AM

Possible is, Bad hard drive or the processor is not properly placed (bent pins? maybe?) so yea, Give the PC a critical observation specially the Processor.

I've came up with this idea because you said that you 'disassembled' the components. Worth a try.

And also, about the beeping sound, most motherboard support a mini speaker responsible for beeping sounds. Well, Most boards do. Your motherboard is a bit old too. Considering that it has Pata 133 and Sata2 only. So yea, Just jump into conclusions :)  Rest a bit so that you can think well and not get annoyed. :)  Good luck
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December 28, 2013 6:47:00 AM

Tenvis said:
Possible is, Bad hard drive or the processor is not properly placed (bent pins? maybe?) so yea, Give the PC a critical observation specially the Processor.

I've came up with this idea because you said that you 'disassembled' the components. Worth a try.

And also, about the beeping sound, most motherboard support a mini speaker responsible for beeping sounds. Well, Most boards do. Your motherboard is a bit old too. Considering that it has Pata 133 and Sata2 only. So yea, Just jump into conclusions :)  Rest a bit so that you can think well and not get annoyed. :)  Good luck


I'm only upgrading my build. I started this last night, so everything was working fine. I didn't remove the cpu from the motherboard, since they aren't being upgraded, so I don't see how any of the pins could have bent. Right now, I only have the graphics card, cpu, 1 dimm, and power connectors installed, so it's not the hard drive.

I'm wanting to try and reset/clear the cmos but I'm not understanding how to do that.
I see you have to remove the battery, but then there is something about shorting some cmos pins that I can't find on my mobo. All I see that may be related is clear rtc, but I don't know what that is for. Can't find it in the mobo manual.

I shall browse more videos but hopefully someone else has some for me?
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December 28, 2013 4:53:05 PM

Newgal said:
Tenvis said:
Possible is, Bad hard drive or the processor is not properly placed (bent pins? maybe?) so yea, Give the PC a critical observation specially the Processor.

I've came up with this idea because you said that you 'disassembled' the components. Worth a try.

And also, about the beeping sound, most motherboard support a mini speaker responsible for beeping sounds. Well, Most boards do. Your motherboard is a bit old too. Considering that it has Pata 133 and Sata2 only. So yea, Just jump into conclusions :)  Rest a bit so that you can think well and not get annoyed. :)  Good luck


I'm only upgrading my build. I started this last night, so everything was working fine. I didn't remove the cpu from the motherboard, since they aren't being upgraded, so I don't see how any of the pins could have bent. Right now, I only have the graphics card, cpu, 1 dimm, and power connectors installed, so it's not the hard drive.

I'm wanting to try and reset/clear the cmos but I'm not understanding how to do that.
I see you have to remove the battery, but then there is something about shorting some cmos pins that I can't find on my mobo. All I see that may be related is clear rtc, but I don't know what that is for. Can't find it in the mobo manual.

I shall browse more videos but hopefully someone else has some for me?


I see..Here are ways on how to clear the CMOS (Reset Bios). :) 
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December 28, 2013 6:20:27 PM

Assume you did not forget the 6-pin power connector on the HD7770....

Guess that you tried the onboard video connector on the MB as well as connecting the video to the HD7770. Sometimes the bios is set to force use of the onboard and does not automatically switch to the PCIe video card. (sometimes people also plug into the MB video and wonder why the PCIe card is not working...)

Suggest you fire the system up WITHOUT the video card using onboard video to rule out problems with the card (would not be the first video card to arrive DOA)
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December 28, 2013 7:52:32 PM

tsnor said:
Assume you did not forget the 6-pin power connector on the HD7770....

Guess that you tried the onboard video connector on the MB as well as connecting the video to the HD7770. Sometimes the bios is set to force use of the onboard and does not automatically switch to the PCIe video card. (sometimes people also plug into the MB video and wonder why the PCIe card is not working...)

Suggest you fire the system up WITHOUT the video card using onboard video to rule out problems with the card (would not be the first video card to arrive DOA)


I tried using my older video card and still got no signal, so something else is wrong.
Think I know what, though. I found three bent pins, fixed two, but one broke off :( 
I'll have to buy another one, I guess.

Thanks for the help though.
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December 28, 2013 8:24:35 PM

What pins? Bent pins from motherboard are no issues IF it is an empty slot.
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December 29, 2013 1:37:02 AM

Tenvis said:
What pins? Bent pins from motherboard are no issues IF it is an empty slot.


On my cpu.
/sigh/ When watching how-to videos, I saw that everyone tucked the cpu securely in some kind of case on the mobo, so I figured that that was like how mine was. I didn't realize me cpu was stuck to my heatsink, so when I moved the heatsink around to get it from old case to new case, I didn't pay any mind to how rough I was handling it... which I guess is how the pins bent.
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December 29, 2013 1:52:50 AM

Your cpu was stuck on the heatsink? Anyways, youre getting a new CPU right?
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December 29, 2013 2:04:20 AM

Newgal said:
Tenvis said:
What pins? Bent pins from motherboard are no issues IF it is an empty slot.


On my cpu.
/sigh/ When watching how-to videos, I saw that everyone tucked the cpu securely in some kind of case on the mobo, so I figured that that was like how mine was. I didn't realize me cpu was stuck to my heatsink, so when I moved the heatsink around to get it from old case to new case, I didn't pay any mind to how rough I was handling it... which I guess is how the pins bent.


I did some researching on what would happen if you have a broken pin on a CPU.
I might say that there is a 50/50 chance it would still work. You can fix it by letting the Jewelry store fix it. Use the 14K gold. (found this one on techimo) or just buy a new one lols.

In my opinion, Just buy a new one. You might damage your mobo if you'll take the risks of fixing your CPU.
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December 29, 2013 4:06:29 AM

Tenvis said:
Newgal said:
Tenvis said:
What pins? Bent pins from motherboard are no issues IF it is an empty slot.


On my cpu.
/sigh/ When watching how-to videos, I saw that everyone tucked the cpu securely in some kind of case on the mobo, so I figured that that was like how mine was. I didn't realize me cpu was stuck to my heatsink, so when I moved the heatsink around to get it from old case to new case, I didn't pay any mind to how rough I was handling it... which I guess is how the pins bent.


I did some researching on what would happen if you have a broken pin on a CPU.
I might say that there is a 50/50 chance it would still work. You can fix it by letting the Jewelry store fix it. Use the 14K gold. (found this one on techimo) or just buy a new one lols.

In my opinion, Just buy a new one. You might damage your mobo if you'll take the risks of fixing your CPU.


Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and buy a new one.

One question, if I may ask.

I have several case fans but only one 3pin chassis fan connector on the mobo. The case fans only have the 3pin connection on them, so I can't plug them into the psu directly. How would I go about this? Is there some sort of 3pin to ??? adapter I can use? My psu only has 2 pci connectors and 4 6pin connector slots.

People say to use a 3pin to molex adapter, but I don't see how that will fit in my psu.
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December 29, 2013 5:59:23 AM

Newgal said:
Tenvis said:
Newgal said:
Tenvis said:
What pins? Bent pins from motherboard are no issues IF it is an empty slot.


On my cpu.
/sigh/ When watching how-to videos, I saw that everyone tucked the cpu securely in some kind of case on the mobo, so I figured that that was like how mine was. I didn't realize me cpu was stuck to my heatsink, so when I moved the heatsink around to get it from old case to new case, I didn't pay any mind to how rough I was handling it... which I guess is how the pins bent.


I did some researching on what would happen if you have a broken pin on a CPU.
I might say that there is a 50/50 chance it would still work. You can fix it by letting the Jewelry store fix it. Use the 14K gold. (found this one on techimo) or just buy a new one lols.

In my opinion, Just buy a new one. You might damage your mobo if you'll take the risks of fixing your CPU.



Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and buy a new one.

One question, if I may ask.

I have several case fans but only one 3pin chassis fan connector on the mobo. The case fans only have the 3pin connection on them, so I can't plug them into the psu directly. How would I go about this? Is there some sort of 3pin to ??? adapter I can use? My psu only has 2 pci connectors and 4 6pin connector slots.

People say to use a 3pin to molex adapter, but I don't see how that will fit in my psu.


Yep there is. A 3 pin to 4-pin molex adapter. Can you give me your PSU brand and model? :) 
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December 29, 2013 6:54:16 AM

Tenvis said:
Newgal said:
Tenvis said:
Newgal said:
Tenvis said:
What pins? Bent pins from motherboard are no issues IF it is an empty slot.


On my cpu.
/sigh/ When watching how-to videos, I saw that everyone tucked the cpu securely in some kind of case on the mobo, so I figured that that was like how mine was. I didn't realize me cpu was stuck to my heatsink, so when I moved the heatsink around to get it from old case to new case, I didn't pay any mind to how rough I was handling it... which I guess is how the pins bent.


I did some researching on what would happen if you have a broken pin on a CPU.
I might say that there is a 50/50 chance it would still work. You can fix it by letting the Jewelry store fix it. Use the 14K gold. (found this one on techimo) or just buy a new one lols.

In my opinion, Just buy a new one. You might damage your mobo if you'll take the risks of fixing your CPU.



Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and buy a new one.

One question, if I may ask.

I have several case fans but only one 3pin chassis fan connector on the mobo. The case fans only have the 3pin connection on them, so I can't plug them into the psu directly. How would I go about this? Is there some sort of 3pin to ??? adapter I can use? My psu only has 2 pci connectors and 4 6pin connector slots.

People say to use a 3pin to molex adapter, but I don't see how that will fit in my psu.


Yep there is. A 3 pin to 4-pin molex adapter. Can you give me your PSU brand and model? :) 


OCZ 600W ATX12V / EPS12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 29, 2013 9:37:25 PM

the peripherals are 4 pin molex right? Well, There is an adapter 3 pin to 4 pin molex and I know you can use it
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December 29, 2013 11:58:01 PM

Tenvis said:
the peripherals are 4 pin molex right? Well, There is an adapter 3 pin to 4 pin molex and I know you can use it


That's what I'm confused about.. I know about the adapter, but even if I plug in the 3pin fan to a 4pin molex, I have no where on the motherboard or psu to plug the molex into, is all I'm saying.
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding something...

It's okay though. I'm sure the heatsink with double-sided fans and one case fan will be enough.
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December 30, 2013 2:57:14 AM

Newgal said:
Tenvis said:
the peripherals are 4 pin molex right? Well, There is an adapter 3 pin to 4 pin molex and I know you can use it


That's what I'm confused about.. I know about the adapter, but even if I plug in the 3pin fan to a 4pin molex, I have no where on the motherboard or psu to plug the molex into, is all I'm saying.
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding something...

It's okay though. I'm sure the heatsink with double-sided fans and one case fan will be enough.


Well, Next upgrade will be a Water cooled CPU cooler. I'll give you the simplest one. It is the Cooler master Seidon 120V. Well, Best ones are from Corsair (Corsair H100i). Enjoy. :) 
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