How much does Chipset change affect the Performance ?

adity8522 · Dec 28, 2013

I am getting a new system but finally stuck at selecting a Motherboard.
I am on a Tight Budget but want a Good Motherboard. I do not do any OC. I only use 1 GFX Card So, no need of extra PCI-E Lanes and use only 2-3 USBs.
I want a Motherboard to Support AMD FX 8350 without affecting any performance. I am stuck B/w 760G and 970. I am getting my best bet on ASUS M5A78L-M-LX V2.
Will that be good ?

Scremin34Egl · Dec 28, 2013

Nope, that motherboard does not support the 8350 (max supported, fx6300). In fact I wouldn't even consider it due to it having the old 760g chipset. Those chipsets are not really compatible with the new fx series chips

Even if you are not overclocking, go with the 970 chipset

aqe040466 · Feb 16, 2014

Scremin34Egl :

Your claim is totally wrong! that motherboard supports FX 8350, Don't mislead people who are honestly asking questions here. Take a look at this link from ASUS: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A78LM_LX_V2/#support

tiny voices · Feb 17, 2014

The motherboard does support the 8350 with the proper BIOS flash. The 760g chipset will not limit performance, but it will not let you overclock that CPU, and it will also not give as many USB 3.0 ports or SATA 6.0 ports as a better motherboard. The 760g motherboards are VERY low end and the chipset is 5 years old.

Even with a compatible motherboard there may be heat issues as those bards have no VRM heatsinks and the 8350 is at the VERY top of the thermal range for the board. I would STRONGLY recommend a 970 chipset board for any FX series CPU.

Outlander_04 · Feb 17, 2014

The 760g is 2 generations old . It doesnt support some of the power saving profiles of FX processors and it limits you thermally too

Use a board with a 970 chipset

The asrock 970 extreme3 R2.0 is a few dollars more and much better

aqe040466 · Feb 17, 2014

tiny voices :

Another false claim. I just built a gaming PC last month using a 760g chipset with FX 4130 3.8 bclk 3.9 ghz turbo. I use Gigabyte GA 78LMT-USB3 board this is a micro ATX , BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT? I overclocked it to 4.6 ghz, CPU vCore 1.44v. 29 deg C in idle 65 deg C full load within 2 hrs of Prime 95 stable. Why my Gigabyte MB with 760g chipset capable of overclocking FX 4130?

tiny voices · Feb 17, 2014

You have that board running on the ragged edge, sir. It has poor power phases and the board is likely VERY hot and you are greatly shortening its life. I would not be surprised if it failed very early. That CPU is already a 125w TDP CPU, so by overclocking it, you are passing the motherboards TDP limit. I'm not saying that you can't overclock on these boards, just that it is not recommended due to poor power phases and no VRM heatsinks.

aqe040466 · Feb 17, 2014

tiny voices :

We'll its a free motherboard that came with the FX 4130 as combo, and Micro center will replace it anytime because I bought a 2 year replacement protection plan. I'll be in touch with you if anything happens to this MB probably in the next two years or more. If this board will last for 2 years then I can conclude you are wrong.

aqe040466 · Feb 17, 2014

tiny voices :

You just quoted in your first message to the OP and and you stated: " it will not let you overclock that CPU" but now you are back tracking your statement. I don't wanna waste my time arguing with you, because I think you guys are lack of knowledge and experience in this field.

tiny voices · Feb 17, 2014

Look, I never said you cannot overclock or that it won't work. Just that it is not recommended. It would be a better idea to get a 970 chipset board of course, but the 760g boards DO work. Would I ever do it? No. For only a few more bucks you can get a 970 chipset board and get more features and better stability by a large margin. Why would you not spend the extra $10 to get those things? This is the point I am making.

And my comment about not being able to overclock is technically correct. Although you CAN physically overclock that CPU on that board, you are passing the TDP limit of the motherboard and this VOIDS the CPU and Motherboard warranty.

aqe040466 · Feb 17, 2014

tiny voices :

tiny voices said:
The motherboard does support the 8350 with the proper BIOS flash. The 760g chipset will not limit performance, but it will not let you overclock that CPU, and it will also not give as many USB 3.0 ports or SATA 6.0 ports as a better motherboard. The 760g motherboards are VERY low end and the chipset is 5 years old.

Even with a compatible motherboard there may be heat issues as those bards have no VRM heatsinks and the 8350 is at the VERY top of the thermal range for the board. I would STRONGLY recommend a 970 chipset board for any FX series CPU.

Read your statement here, you clearly stated: "it will not let you overclock that CPU" Don't lie to everybody in this forum. Admit it that you are wrong. It will set you free.

Outlander_04 · Feb 17, 2014

Overclocking an FX 4130 and an 8350 are quite different things . The limit will be how much clean current the VRM's can supply . That 760g board is not particularly strong and the VRM's are bound to be running hotter and maybe near their limits with an OC 4130 .
But an 8350 will be drawing about as much current without OCing as the 4130 will once its OCed . If you try to OC the 8350 there is a very very good chance it will either fail completely or if you succeed then the mb will over heat .

Which brings me back to the one piece of relevant information : the OP should pay for a 970 series chipset mb . The board will have better features , enable all the capabilities of the FX processor and its likely to be built with stronger VRM's and run cooler

tiny voices · Feb 17, 2014

aqe040466 :

I did not lie to anyone. I stated the truth. Without voiding warranties you cannot overclock on that board. This is the same thing as saying "you cannot go 80mph in the 65 zone". This is true, but you technically can go 80mph, it is just illegal. This is what I meant. I never lied or tried to convey the wrong information. Simply meant to state facts. Sorry that came across negatively. Maybe my choice of words was not the best but, no, I never lied or meant to. Sorry.

tiny voices · Feb 17, 2014

Outlander_04 :

Overclocking an FX 4130 and an 8350 are quite different things . The limit will be how much clean current the VRM's can supply . That 760g board is not particularly strong and the VRM's are bound to be running hotter and maybe near their limits with an OC 4130 .
But an 8350 will be drawing about as much current without OCing as the 4130 will once its OCed . If you try to OC the 8350 there is a very very good chance it will either fail completely or if you succeed then the mb will over heat .

Which brings me back to the one piece of relevant information : the OP should pay for a 970 series chipset mb . The board will have better features , enable all the capabilities of the FX processor and its likely to be built with stronger VRM's and run cooler

Thanks! This is exactly the correct information. Couldn't have said it better.

aqe040466 · Feb 17, 2014

adity8522 :

I suggest these 2 MB's are better for your FX 8350 :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131851

Outlander_04 · Feb 17, 2014

aqe040466 :

Those are better motherboards but they are pointlessly expensive . The 990 FX chipset is identical to the 970 . Exact same bit of silicon . But its electrically capable of running two graphics cards . Probably just how AMD license them and how they are electrically connected to the mb .
Since the OP said he will only use one graphics card paying that much for a mb is wasteful . He should stick with a 970 chipset board .

tiny voices · Feb 17, 2014

Outlander_04 :

aqe040466 :

Those are better motherboards but they are pointlessly expensive . The 990 FX chipset is identical to the 970 . Exact same bit of silicon . But its electrically capable of running two graphics cards . Probably just how AMD license them and how they are electrically connected to the mb .
Since the OP said he will only use one graphics card paying that much for a mb is wasteful . He should stick with a 970 chipset board .

Agreed. There are a few 970 boards between $65 and $85 that would be much better suited for OP's needs.

aqe040466 · Feb 18, 2014

Outlander_04 :

aqe040466 :

Those are better motherboards but they are pointlessly expensive . The 990 FX chipset is identical to the 970 . Exact same bit of silicon . But its electrically capable of running two graphics cards . Probably just how AMD license them and how they are electrically connected to the mb .
Since the OP said he will only use one graphics card paying that much for a mb is wasteful . He should stick with a 970 chipset board .

I am just suggesting, besides Iam not asking you. I am suggesting it to him.

Outlander_04 · Feb 18, 2014

aqe040466 :

Outlander_04 :

I am just suggesting, besides Iam not asking you. I am suggesting it to him.

I am just suggesting you take note of the OP's requirements before suggesting motherboards that are far outside his budget range

adity8522 · Feb 19, 2014

Well, I am not Overclocking or any SLO/Xfire. I do go for ASUS M5A78 MLXV2 because of my budget. I can't even go for the cheapest 970 board right here in India because prices are too high.
Also, I want one more Advice. I am building this system for Flight Simulator X. I will be playing @ Medium Settings @ 1024x768 Res.
Is that CPU good ? Also, Suggest a good GFX Card for that only.

tiny voices · Feb 19, 2014

What is the budget for the GPU? Yes that CPU will be perfectly fine for Flightsim X

adity8522 · Feb 19, 2014

Well, I heard that FSX utilizes about 75% CPU and 25% GPU Power. So, What would you suggest based on this. Not a very fixed budget over GPU. The Cheaper it would be, the Better It would be as It will save me some bucks. Maybe I would get an SSD. I current system is extremely slow. Atleast workable on Ubuntu and a Horror on WIndows 8

tiny voices · Feb 19, 2014

Something simple like an hd7770 would be perfectly fine.

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