Buy GTX 770 now or February(800 series release) Price difference estimates?
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nemtrac5
December 28, 2013 9:38:48 AM
I'm looking at buying a GTX 770 for 350$ right now, but it seems the next generation is coming out in February so I'm curious as to if it is worth the two month wait or how much the price goes down? I'm going for an future-proof SLI build with an OCing CPU.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.95 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1170.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 12:37 EST-0500)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.95 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1170.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 12:37 EST-0500)
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BenEzz
December 28, 2013 9:41:07 AM
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nemtrac5
December 28, 2013 10:02:07 AM
CaptainTom said:
I would definitely wait. Right now is the worst time to get a GPU. Also I would rethink the 770. 2GB is not enough and the 280X is cheaper...Why would i need more than 2GB for gaming? Everything Iv'e heard says you don't use more than 2gb. Thanks for the answers everyone. I don't know if i can hold out for 1 months (or more if mid-february) since I would have no gaming method other than xbox. How much do you guys think the price will drop?
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nemtrac5 said:
CaptainTom said:
I would definitely wait. Right now is the worst time to get a GPU. Also I would rethink the 770. 2GB is not enough and the 280X is cheaper...Why would i need more than 2GB for gaming? Everything Iv'e heard says you don't use more than 2gb. Thanks for the answers everyone. I don't know if i can hold out for 1 months (or more if mid-february) since I would have no gaming method other than xbox. How much do you guys think the price will drop?
In BF4 my 7970 OC'd uses 2.4 GB at times in the new maps. Do you really think 2GB is enough if over 2GB is already standard now?
Nvidia is infamous for skimping on memory. The R7-260X uses 2GB of ram and is a mainstream graphics card costing $120. Should a $340 GPU have the same capacity as a card that costs half as much?
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Zac Lloyd-Jones
December 29, 2013 10:15:46 PM
Take a look at this.
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-770-4gb-vs-2gb-teste...
Might answer your question of whether you need 4GB or not. (Not)
Also, why not buy one 770 now and wait until the price drops later on and buy anyother? I've had my 770 a few months and I'll probably be getting one when the price drops enough. One 770 can handle pretty much anything anyway
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http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-770-4gb-vs-2gb-teste...
Might answer your question of whether you need 4GB or not. (Not)
Also, why not buy one 770 now and wait until the price drops later on and buy anyother? I've had my 770 a few months and I'll probably be getting one when the price drops enough. One 770 can handle pretty much anything anyway
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nemtrac5
December 30, 2013 3:40:49 PM
smeezekitty said:
What makes you think the 800 series is in Feb?It is still a rumor, but with some kind of source backing it. http://techreport.com/news/25773/leaked-roadmap-mention...
I appreciate all the responses and I ended up getting the Asus gtx770 and will probably buy a second next year for SLI. Expect an update on the build around January 8th. Thanks for the help.
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canopus72
January 1, 2014 11:38:48 AM
nemtrac5 said:
I'm looking at buying a GTX 770 for 350$ right now, but it seems the next generation is coming out in February so I'm curious as to if it is worth the two month wait or how much the price goes down? I'm going for an future-proof SLI build with an OCing CPU.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.95 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1170.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 12:37 EST-0500)
Hi. I am in a similar position as you (wrt GFX cards). I am gaming on a single monitor (BenQXL2411T). Long story short, I had a 780GTX (upgrade from 680GTX), I sold it in November because I thought I was 'upgrading' to the Asus 7990HD (£400 Amazon). I had to RMA the 7990HD (see my UK Amazon review), bought a Palit 780Ti from Dabs for £500 (which turned out be Sh*t because very poor bench results and frame tearing when gaming). On heaven 4, it was scoring only 1313 points (with everything maxed out). My previous Zotac 780GTX was scoring 1521 points with everything maxed out. I was advised by Novatech to RMA the Palit and get another Ti. However, other brands of 780Ti are a lot more expensive.
Yesterday, I was considering the XFX-280X from Dabs (selling for £240) and I placed my order for two units, but after reading Amazon reviews about heating issues of VRM and Xfire, I have now changed my mind and have opted to go for a pair of Zotac 770GTX (2GB) in SLI. What really convinced me were these two reviews -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMsg8qqva0
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sl...
According to above, the 770GTX in SLI completely destroys the Titan, 780GTX and 7990HD by c.20%-30%. I know the 770GTX is the old GK104 chipset as the 680GTX (albeit a revamped and improved version), but it is the cheapest solution currently available at or below the £500 mark (as it even beats the Titan and when comparing benchmark data, I believe it beats 780Ti). Only an SLI Titan, 780GTX/Ti can beat the 770GTX-SLI, but they are much more expensive options. I have read about SLI issues and TBH, I have never used SLI before so I will know what it is like when I receive it.
The alternative is 280X Xfire (Dabs are selling the XFX-280X for £240, which is why I ordered two units). Can 280X Xfire beat 770GTX SLI?. I don't know and if my experience with 7990HD means anything, I don't want 280X-Xfire overheating my mobo, cpu, etc (as 7990HD did) and I don't want the ball ache of faffing around with fickle AMD drivers. It is also interesting to note that XFX give lifetime warranty on their graphics in USA (I don't know about Australia and Canada). However, XFX clearly states on it's website that it does not offer manufacturer warranty in UK (XFX has dumped the responsibility of warranty on retailers. I think that is absolutely disgusting behaviour and it was another reason which swayed me back to Nvidia). Also UK retailers warranty on XFX products vary from one retailer to another (Scan offers 1 year warranty, Novatech offers 2 years warranty and Dabs apparently offers 3 years warranty BUT the lady at Dabs told me the Palit 780Ti has 3 years warranty and when I contacted Palit, they said 'not 3 years, it has 2 years warranty').
I decided to go for the 770GTX SLI because I have always used Nvidia (their cards run much cooler and their software is much better and more stable than AMD). Also Ebuyer were selling Zotac 770GTX (2GB) for £240 (reduced from original rrp of £350), which is why I bought two (£480). Zotac graphics cards also come with 5 years warranty BUT you need to register them within the first two weeks of purchase, otherwise you will only get 2 years warranty.
To conclude, I went for 4th rung Nvidia card in SLI, because not only does it give Titan and Ti beating performance, but it does so at below £500 (cost me £480!). The cheapest 780Ti card I could find was on Novatech (Zotac 780Ti) for £530. That is a saving of £50!. A great way to get Titan beating performance if you are on a budget.
I am going to use my 770GTX SLI rig until Maxwell/800 series comes out. I will then check prices and reviews and take it from there. I suspect upon release of 800 series, Nvidia will not lower prices of current 700 series by much because their competitor (AMD) is currently enjoying massive sales of their graphics cards due to high demand by litecoin and bit coin miners. AMD is on the gravy boat, which is why they hiked prices of their 280X and 290/X models (example - when sapphire 280X toxic was released in mid November 2013, it was selling on Amazon, Dabs, etc for £250. It is now selling on these sites for £350!).
I honestly think AMD are going to keep their prices as high as possible for as long as possible and Nvidia will look at AMD and mirror the same behaviour. The only way Nvidia will lower prices is if for some reason, AMD's fortunes change and they are forced to lower the rrp of their cards.
I suggest you look around, because retailers will be offering good deals every now and then (I managed to find a good offer on Dabs and Ebuyer). Once you find a 770GTX at a good price, then buy it. Buy two if you can. Don't keep 'holding out', because it could be a waste of time. As the saying goes 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'.
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kungfury7
January 2, 2014 9:25:54 AM
canopus72 said:
nemtrac5 said:
I'm looking at buying a GTX 770 for 350$ right now, but it seems the next generation is coming out in February so I'm curious as to if it is worth the two month wait or how much the price goes down? I'm going for an future-proof SLI build with an OCing CPU.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.95 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1170.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 12:37 EST-0500)
Hi. I am in a similar position as you (wrt GFX cards). I am gaming on a single monitor (BenQXL2411T). Long story short, I had a 780GTX (upgrade from 680GTX), I sold it in November because I thought I was 'upgrading' to the Asus 7990HD (£400 Amazon). I had to RMA the 7990HD (see my UK Amazon review), bought a Palit 780Ti from Dabs for £500 (which turned out be Sh*t because very poor bench results and frame tearing when gaming). On heaven 4, it was scoring only 1313 points (with everything maxed out). My previous Zotac 780GTX was scoring 1521 points with everything maxed out. I was advised by Novatech to RMA the Palit and get another Ti. However, other brands of 780Ti are a lot more expensive.
Yesterday, I was considering the XFX-280X from Dabs (selling for £240) and I placed my order for two units, but after reading Amazon reviews about heating issues of VRM and Xfire, I have now changed my mind and have opted to go for a pair of Zotac 770GTX (2GB) in SLI. What really convinced me were these two reviews -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMsg8qqva0
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sl...
According to above, the 770GTX in SLI completely destroys the Titan, 780GTX and 7990HD by c.20%-30%. I know the 770GTX is the old GK104 chipset as the 680GTX (albeit a revamped and improved version), but it is the cheapest solution currently available at or below the £500 mark (as it even beats the Titan and when comparing benchmark data, I believe it beats 780Ti). Only an SLI Titan, 780GTX/Ti can beat the 770GTX-SLI, but they are much more expensive options. I have read about SLI issues and TBH, I have never used SLI before so I will know what it is like when I receive it.
The alternative is 280X Xfire (Dabs are selling the XFX-280X for £240, which is why I ordered two units). Can 280X Xfire beat 770GTX SLI?. I don't know and if my experience with 7990HD means anything, I don't want 280X-Xfire overheating my mobo, cpu, etc (as 7990HD did) and I don't want the ball ache of faffing around with fickle AMD drivers. It is also interesting to note that XFX give lifetime warranty on their graphics in USA (I don't know about Australia and Canada). However, XFX clearly states on it's website that it does not offer manufacturer warranty in UK (XFX has dumped the responsibility of warranty on retailers. I think that is absolutely disgusting behaviour and it was another reason which swayed me back to Nvidia). Also UK retailers warranty on XFX products vary from one retailer to another (Scan offers 1 year warranty, Novatech offers 2 years warranty and Dabs apparently offers 3 years warranty BUT the lady at Dabs told me the Palit 780Ti has 3 years warranty and when I contacted Palit, they said 'not 3 years, it has 2 years warranty').
I decided to go for the 770GTX SLI because I have always used Nvidia (their cards run much cooler and their software is much better and more stable than AMD). Also Ebuyer were selling Zotac 770GTX (2GB) for £240 (reduced from original rrp of £350), which is why I bought two (£480). Zotac graphics cards also come with 5 years warranty BUT you need to register them within the first two weeks of purchase, otherwise you will only get 2 years warranty.
To conclude, I went for 4th rung Nvidia card in SLI, because not only does it give Titan and Ti beating performance, but it does so at below £500 (cost me £480!). The cheapest 780Ti card I could find was on Novatech (Zotac 780Ti) for £530. That is a saving of £50!. A great way to get Titan beating performance if you are on a budget.
I am going to use my 770GTX SLI rig until Maxwell/800 series comes out. I will then check prices and reviews and take it from there. I suspect upon release of 800 series, Nvidia will not lower prices of current 700 series by much because their competitor (AMD) is currently enjoying massive sales of their graphics cards due to high demand by litecoin and bit coin miners. AMD is on the gravy boat, which is why they hiked prices of their 280X and 290/X models (example - when sapphire 280X toxic was released in mid November 2013, it was selling on Amazon, Dabs, etc for £250. It is now selling on these sites for £350!).
I honestly think AMD are going to keep their prices as high as possible for as long as possible and Nvidia will look at AMD and mirror the same behaviour. The only way Nvidia will lower prices is if for some reason, AMD's fortunes change and they are forced to lower the rrp of their cards.
I suggest you look around, because retailers will be offering good deals every now and then (I managed to find a good offer on Dabs and Ebuyer). Once you find a 770GTX at a good price, then buy it. Buy two if you can. Don't keep 'holding out', because it could be a waste of time. As the saying goes 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'.
You should have just stick to the GTX 780...I mean just in general, the graphics cards of this recent gen is just plane ridiculous, you are paying premium for a lackluster performance, even for the highest end cards like 7990. I'm looking forward to my new build with the GTX 800 series...once they come out of course.
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canopus72
January 2, 2014 9:54:57 AM
kungfury7 said:
canopus72 said:
nemtrac5 said:
I'm looking at buying a GTX 770 for 350$ right now, but it seems the next generation is coming out in February so I'm curious as to if it is worth the two month wait or how much the price goes down? I'm going for an future-proof SLI build with an OCing CPU.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.95 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1170.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 12:37 EST-0500)
Hi. I am in a similar position as you (wrt GFX cards). I am gaming on a single monitor (BenQXL2411T). Long story short, I had a 780GTX (upgrade from 680GTX), I sold it in November because I thought I was 'upgrading' to the Asus 7990HD (£400 Amazon). I had to RMA the 7990HD (see my UK Amazon review), bought a Palit 780Ti from Dabs for £500 (which turned out be Sh*t because very poor bench results and frame tearing when gaming). On heaven 4, it was scoring only 1313 points (with everything maxed out). My previous Zotac 780GTX was scoring 1521 points with everything maxed out. I was advised by Novatech to RMA the Palit and get another Ti. However, other brands of 780Ti are a lot more expensive.
Yesterday, I was considering the XFX-280X from Dabs (selling for £240) and I placed my order for two units, but after reading Amazon reviews about heating issues of VRM and Xfire, I have now changed my mind and have opted to go for a pair of Zotac 770GTX (2GB) in SLI. What really convinced me were these two reviews -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMsg8qqva0
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sl...
According to above, the 770GTX in SLI completely destroys the Titan, 780GTX and 7990HD by c.20%-30%. I know the 770GTX is the old GK104 chipset as the 680GTX (albeit a revamped and improved version), but it is the cheapest solution currently available at or below the £500 mark (as it even beats the Titan and when comparing benchmark data, I believe it beats 780Ti). Only an SLI Titan, 780GTX/Ti can beat the 770GTX-SLI, but they are much more expensive options. I have read about SLI issues and TBH, I have never used SLI before so I will know what it is like when I receive it.
The alternative is 280X Xfire (Dabs are selling the XFX-280X for £240, which is why I ordered two units). Can 280X Xfire beat 770GTX SLI?. I don't know and if my experience with 7990HD means anything, I don't want 280X-Xfire overheating my mobo, cpu, etc (as 7990HD did) and I don't want the ball ache of faffing around with fickle AMD drivers. It is also interesting to note that XFX give lifetime warranty on their graphics in USA (I don't know about Australia and Canada). However, XFX clearly states on it's website that it does not offer manufacturer warranty in UK (XFX has dumped the responsibility of warranty on retailers. I think that is absolutely disgusting behaviour and it was another reason which swayed me back to Nvidia). Also UK retailers warranty on XFX products vary from one retailer to another (Scan offers 1 year warranty, Novatech offers 2 years warranty and Dabs apparently offers 3 years warranty BUT the lady at Dabs told me the Palit 780Ti has 3 years warranty and when I contacted Palit, they said 'not 3 years, it has 2 years warranty').
I decided to go for the 770GTX SLI because I have always used Nvidia (their cards run much cooler and their software is much better and more stable than AMD). Also Ebuyer were selling Zotac 770GTX (2GB) for £240 (reduced from original rrp of £350), which is why I bought two (£480). Zotac graphics cards also come with 5 years warranty BUT you need to register them within the first two weeks of purchase, otherwise you will only get 2 years warranty.
To conclude, I went for 4th rung Nvidia card in SLI, because not only does it give Titan and Ti beating performance, but it does so at below £500 (cost me £480!). The cheapest 780Ti card I could find was on Novatech (Zotac 780Ti) for £530. That is a saving of £50!. A great way to get Titan beating performance if you are on a budget.
I am going to use my 770GTX SLI rig until Maxwell/800 series comes out. I will then check prices and reviews and take it from there. I suspect upon release of 800 series, Nvidia will not lower prices of current 700 series by much because their competitor (AMD) is currently enjoying massive sales of their graphics cards due to high demand by litecoin and bit coin miners. AMD is on the gravy boat, which is why they hiked prices of their 280X and 290/X models (example - when sapphire 280X toxic was released in mid November 2013, it was selling on Amazon, Dabs, etc for £250. It is now selling on these sites for £350!).
I honestly think AMD are going to keep their prices as high as possible for as long as possible and Nvidia will look at AMD and mirror the same behaviour. The only way Nvidia will lower prices is if for some reason, AMD's fortunes change and they are forced to lower the rrp of their cards.
I suggest you look around, because retailers will be offering good deals every now and then (I managed to find a good offer on Dabs and Ebuyer). Once you find a 770GTX at a good price, then buy it. Buy two if you can. Don't keep 'holding out', because it could be a waste of time. As the saying goes 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'.
You should have just stick to the GTX 780...I mean just in general, the graphics cards of this recent gen is just plane ridiculous, you are paying premium for a lackluster performance, even for the highest end cards like 7990. I'm looking forward to my new build with the GTX 800 series...once they come out of course.
Kungfury7. Yeah, I really regret selling my Zotac 780GTX. That was a mistake (but you live and you learn). Admittedly I did pay premium price for the 780GTX and for the Palit 780Ti (although I will get my money back on the Palit). So I have decided to be thrifty this time and use the fourth rung card (in SLI) on the Nvidia hierarchy. I will use it as a stop gap and who knows, if it gives far better performance than the 780Ti and gives the 880 a run for it's money, then I will keep on using the 770GTX SLI. When it is time for an upgrade, I will get the 870GTX (a revamped 780GTX) and by that time, prices will have dropped.
The mistake I made was not buying the 780GTX and 780Ti, but not knowing that ebayers are now being extremely miserly when bidding on top end graphics cards. It makes sense, because at the end of the day, how many people can afford to shell out £400 or £450 for a second hand top graphics card?. Not many. In fact, most people would be hard pressed to pay beyond £320 for an excellent condition 780GTX.
On the converse end of the scale, I purchased my Zotac 770GTX for only £240 brand new. It comes with 5 years warranty. When I come to sell it on ebay, I think I will recoup the majority of my money, because most people can afford to pay £200-£250 for a good quality graphics card, so competition between bidders will be high.
So the trick is to aim for the runner up (#3 or #4), because it will be a damn sight cheaper than the #1 gfx card, even in SLI. Not only this, but it will give equal performance to the #1 card or even surpass it and at the end of the day, when you sell it on ebay, you will have a much greater chance of recouping the majority of your money as the majority of ebayers can afford to buy a gfx card within the £200-£250 price bracket. I know this from past experience with my 460GTX, 560GTX-SOC and 660GTX. I have learned my lesson now, so I will plan to go for the #3 or #4 card, SLI it to get #1 beating performance and keep repeating the process for every upgrade cycle.
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kungfury7
January 2, 2014 10:04:35 AM
canopus72 said:
kungfury7 said:
canopus72 said:
nemtrac5 said:
I'm looking at buying a GTX 770 for 350$ right now, but it seems the next generation is coming out in February so I'm curious as to if it is worth the two month wait or how much the price goes down? I'm going for an future-proof SLI build with an OCing CPU.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.95 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1170.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 12:37 EST-0500)
Hi. I am in a similar position as you (wrt GFX cards). I am gaming on a single monitor (BenQXL2411T). Long story short, I had a 780GTX (upgrade from 680GTX), I sold it in November because I thought I was 'upgrading' to the Asus 7990HD (£400 Amazon). I had to RMA the 7990HD (see my UK Amazon review), bought a Palit 780Ti from Dabs for £500 (which turned out be Sh*t because very poor bench results and frame tearing when gaming). On heaven 4, it was scoring only 1313 points (with everything maxed out). My previous Zotac 780GTX was scoring 1521 points with everything maxed out. I was advised by Novatech to RMA the Palit and get another Ti. However, other brands of 780Ti are a lot more expensive.
Yesterday, I was considering the XFX-280X from Dabs (selling for £240) and I placed my order for two units, but after reading Amazon reviews about heating issues of VRM and Xfire, I have now changed my mind and have opted to go for a pair of Zotac 770GTX (2GB) in SLI. What really convinced me were these two reviews -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMsg8qqva0
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sl...
According to above, the 770GTX in SLI completely destroys the Titan, 780GTX and 7990HD by c.20%-30%. I know the 770GTX is the old GK104 chipset as the 680GTX (albeit a revamped and improved version), but it is the cheapest solution currently available at or below the £500 mark (as it even beats the Titan and when comparing benchmark data, I believe it beats 780Ti). Only an SLI Titan, 780GTX/Ti can beat the 770GTX-SLI, but they are much more expensive options. I have read about SLI issues and TBH, I have never used SLI before so I will know what it is like when I receive it.
The alternative is 280X Xfire (Dabs are selling the XFX-280X for £240, which is why I ordered two units). Can 280X Xfire beat 770GTX SLI?. I don't know and if my experience with 7990HD means anything, I don't want 280X-Xfire overheating my mobo, cpu, etc (as 7990HD did) and I don't want the ball ache of faffing around with fickle AMD drivers. It is also interesting to note that XFX give lifetime warranty on their graphics in USA (I don't know about Australia and Canada). However, XFX clearly states on it's website that it does not offer manufacturer warranty in UK (XFX has dumped the responsibility of warranty on retailers. I think that is absolutely disgusting behaviour and it was another reason which swayed me back to Nvidia). Also UK retailers warranty on XFX products vary from one retailer to another (Scan offers 1 year warranty, Novatech offers 2 years warranty and Dabs apparently offers 3 years warranty BUT the lady at Dabs told me the Palit 780Ti has 3 years warranty and when I contacted Palit, they said 'not 3 years, it has 2 years warranty').
I decided to go for the 770GTX SLI because I have always used Nvidia (their cards run much cooler and their software is much better and more stable than AMD). Also Ebuyer were selling Zotac 770GTX (2GB) for £240 (reduced from original rrp of £350), which is why I bought two (£480). Zotac graphics cards also come with 5 years warranty BUT you need to register them within the first two weeks of purchase, otherwise you will only get 2 years warranty.
To conclude, I went for 4th rung Nvidia card in SLI, because not only does it give Titan and Ti beating performance, but it does so at below £500 (cost me £480!). The cheapest 780Ti card I could find was on Novatech (Zotac 780Ti) for £530. That is a saving of £50!. A great way to get Titan beating performance if you are on a budget.
I am going to use my 770GTX SLI rig until Maxwell/800 series comes out. I will then check prices and reviews and take it from there. I suspect upon release of 800 series, Nvidia will not lower prices of current 700 series by much because their competitor (AMD) is currently enjoying massive sales of their graphics cards due to high demand by litecoin and bit coin miners. AMD is on the gravy boat, which is why they hiked prices of their 280X and 290/X models (example - when sapphire 280X toxic was released in mid November 2013, it was selling on Amazon, Dabs, etc for £250. It is now selling on these sites for £350!).
I honestly think AMD are going to keep their prices as high as possible for as long as possible and Nvidia will look at AMD and mirror the same behaviour. The only way Nvidia will lower prices is if for some reason, AMD's fortunes change and they are forced to lower the rrp of their cards.
I suggest you look around, because retailers will be offering good deals every now and then (I managed to find a good offer on Dabs and Ebuyer). Once you find a 770GTX at a good price, then buy it. Buy two if you can. Don't keep 'holding out', because it could be a waste of time. As the saying goes 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'.
You should have just stick to the GTX 780...I mean just in general, the graphics cards of this recent gen is just plane ridiculous, you are paying premium for a lackluster performance, even for the highest end cards like 7990. I'm looking forward to my new build with the GTX 800 series...once they come out of course.
Kungfury7. Yeah, I really regret selling my Zotac 780GTX. That was a mistake (but you live and you learn). Admittedly I did pay premium price for the 780GTX and for the Palit 780Ti (although I will get my money back on the Palit). So I have decided to be thrifty this time and use the fourth rung card (in SLI) on the Nvidia hierarchy. I will use it as a stop gap and who knows, if it gives far better performance than the 780Ti and gives the 880 a run for it's money, then I will keep on using the 770GTX SLI. When it is time for an upgrade, I will get the 870GTX (a revamped 780GTX) and by that time, prices will have dropped.
The mistake I made was not buying the 780GTX and 780Ti, but not knowing that ebayers are now being extremely miserly when bidding on top end graphics cards. It makes sense, because at the end of the day, how many people can afford to shell out £400 or £450 for a second hand top graphics card?. Not many. In fact, most people would be hard pressed to pay beyond £320 for an excellent condition 780GTX.
On the converse end of the scale, I purchased my Zotac 770GTX for only £240 brand new. It comes with 5 years warranty. When I come to sell it on ebay, I think I will recoup the majority of my money, because most people can afford to pay £200-£250 for a good quality graphics card, so competition between bidders will be high.
So the trick is to aim for the runner up (#3 or #4), because it will be a damn sight cheaper than the #1 gfx card, even in SLI. Not only this, but it will give equal performance to the #1 card or even surpass it and at the end of the day, when you sell it on ebay, you will have a much greater chance of recouping the majority of your money as the majority of ebayers can afford to buy a gfx card within the £200-£250 price bracket. I know this from past experience with my 460GTX, 560GTX-SOC and 660GTX. I have learned my lesson now, so I will plan to go for the #3 or #4 card, SLI it to get #1 beating performance and keep repeating the process for every upgrade cycle.
Man...looks like you had a long trouble some journey with your PC build. I think it's best to just stick with the highest end in the single GPU category man. And no matter they hype about multi-gpu solutions, in the end i still think it's not stable. You don't need to trust me, just look on benchmarks on sli-cards, watch some youtube videos on it if you could, it's really obvious. Multti-gpu solutions do churn out really high maximum FPS, but it is so unstable that its minimun is even lower than a single GPU card.
Not to mention that, despite Xfire and SLI being in the market for awhile, some games do not just support it. Remember GTA 4? man that was a disaster, even for a single GPU....and I don't expect GTA 5 to be supporting multi GPU solutions as well, massive games like this are just too costly to optimize for all platforms. Now that the hardware in the new gen consoles are X86 based, this might be better though, but still I don't think it will be GPU friendly. However this is one game you must buy though, I played it on the XBOX and it's a major impact which make me sell it and wait for PC...it's just like wasting premium food with crappy wine.
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January 2, 2014 10:50:38 AM
kungfury7 said:
canopus72 said:
kungfury7 said:
canopus72 said:
nemtrac5 said:
I'm looking at buying a GTX 770 for 350$ right now, but it seems the next generation is coming out in February so I'm curious as to if it is worth the two month wait or how much the price goes down? I'm going for an future-proof SLI build with an OCing CPU.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.95 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1170.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 12:37 EST-0500)
Hi. I am in a similar position as you (wrt GFX cards). I am gaming on a single monitor (BenQXL2411T). Long story short, I had a 780GTX (upgrade from 680GTX), I sold it in November because I thought I was 'upgrading' to the Asus 7990HD (£400 Amazon). I had to RMA the 7990HD (see my UK Amazon review), bought a Palit 780Ti from Dabs for £500 (which turned out be Sh*t because very poor bench results and frame tearing when gaming). On heaven 4, it was scoring only 1313 points (with everything maxed out). My previous Zotac 780GTX was scoring 1521 points with everything maxed out. I was advised by Novatech to RMA the Palit and get another Ti. However, other brands of 780Ti are a lot more expensive.
Yesterday, I was considering the XFX-280X from Dabs (selling for £240) and I placed my order for two units, but after reading Amazon reviews about heating issues of VRM and Xfire, I have now changed my mind and have opted to go for a pair of Zotac 770GTX (2GB) in SLI. What really convinced me were these two reviews -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMsg8qqva0
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sl...
According to above, the 770GTX in SLI completely destroys the Titan, 780GTX and 7990HD by c.20%-30%. I know the 770GTX is the old GK104 chipset as the 680GTX (albeit a revamped and improved version), but it is the cheapest solution currently available at or below the £500 mark (as it even beats the Titan and when comparing benchmark data, I believe it beats 780Ti). Only an SLI Titan, 780GTX/Ti can beat the 770GTX-SLI, but they are much more expensive options. I have read about SLI issues and TBH, I have never used SLI before so I will know what it is like when I receive it.
The alternative is 280X Xfire (Dabs are selling the XFX-280X for £240, which is why I ordered two units). Can 280X Xfire beat 770GTX SLI?. I don't know and if my experience with 7990HD means anything, I don't want 280X-Xfire overheating my mobo, cpu, etc (as 7990HD did) and I don't want the ball ache of faffing around with fickle AMD drivers. It is also interesting to note that XFX give lifetime warranty on their graphics in USA (I don't know about Australia and Canada). However, XFX clearly states on it's website that it does not offer manufacturer warranty in UK (XFX has dumped the responsibility of warranty on retailers. I think that is absolutely disgusting behaviour and it was another reason which swayed me back to Nvidia). Also UK retailers warranty on XFX products vary from one retailer to another (Scan offers 1 year warranty, Novatech offers 2 years warranty and Dabs apparently offers 3 years warranty BUT the lady at Dabs told me the Palit 780Ti has 3 years warranty and when I contacted Palit, they said 'not 3 years, it has 2 years warranty').
I decided to go for the 770GTX SLI because I have always used Nvidia (their cards run much cooler and their software is much better and more stable than AMD). Also Ebuyer were selling Zotac 770GTX (2GB) for £240 (reduced from original rrp of £350), which is why I bought two (£480). Zotac graphics cards also come with 5 years warranty BUT you need to register them within the first two weeks of purchase, otherwise you will only get 2 years warranty.
To conclude, I went for 4th rung Nvidia card in SLI, because not only does it give Titan and Ti beating performance, but it does so at below £500 (cost me £480!). The cheapest 780Ti card I could find was on Novatech (Zotac 780Ti) for £530. That is a saving of £50!. A great way to get Titan beating performance if you are on a budget.
I am going to use my 770GTX SLI rig until Maxwell/800 series comes out. I will then check prices and reviews and take it from there. I suspect upon release of 800 series, Nvidia will not lower prices of current 700 series by much because their competitor (AMD) is currently enjoying massive sales of their graphics cards due to high demand by litecoin and bit coin miners. AMD is on the gravy boat, which is why they hiked prices of their 280X and 290/X models (example - when sapphire 280X toxic was released in mid November 2013, it was selling on Amazon, Dabs, etc for £250. It is now selling on these sites for £350!).
I honestly think AMD are going to keep their prices as high as possible for as long as possible and Nvidia will look at AMD and mirror the same behaviour. The only way Nvidia will lower prices is if for some reason, AMD's fortunes change and they are forced to lower the rrp of their cards.
I suggest you look around, because retailers will be offering good deals every now and then (I managed to find a good offer on Dabs and Ebuyer). Once you find a 770GTX at a good price, then buy it. Buy two if you can. Don't keep 'holding out', because it could be a waste of time. As the saying goes 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'.
You should have just stick to the GTX 780...I mean just in general, the graphics cards of this recent gen is just plane ridiculous, you are paying premium for a lackluster performance, even for the highest end cards like 7990. I'm looking forward to my new build with the GTX 800 series...once they come out of course.
Kungfury7. Yeah, I really regret selling my Zotac 780GTX. That was a mistake (but you live and you learn). Admittedly I did pay premium price for the 780GTX and for the Palit 780Ti (although I will get my money back on the Palit). So I have decided to be thrifty this time and use the fourth rung card (in SLI) on the Nvidia hierarchy. I will use it as a stop gap and who knows, if it gives far better performance than the 780Ti and gives the 880 a run for it's money, then I will keep on using the 770GTX SLI. When it is time for an upgrade, I will get the 870GTX (a revamped 780GTX) and by that time, prices will have dropped.
The mistake I made was not buying the 780GTX and 780Ti, but not knowing that ebayers are now being extremely miserly when bidding on top end graphics cards. It makes sense, because at the end of the day, how many people can afford to shell out £400 or £450 for a second hand top graphics card?. Not many. In fact, most people would be hard pressed to pay beyond £320 for an excellent condition 780GTX.
On the converse end of the scale, I purchased my Zotac 770GTX for only £240 brand new. It comes with 5 years warranty. When I come to sell it on ebay, I think I will recoup the majority of my money, because most people can afford to pay £200-£250 for a good quality graphics card, so competition between bidders will be high.
So the trick is to aim for the runner up (#3 or #4), because it will be a damn sight cheaper than the #1 gfx card, even in SLI. Not only this, but it will give equal performance to the #1 card or even surpass it and at the end of the day, when you sell it on ebay, you will have a much greater chance of recouping the majority of your money as the majority of ebayers can afford to buy a gfx card within the £200-£250 price bracket. I know this from past experience with my 460GTX, 560GTX-SOC and 660GTX. I have learned my lesson now, so I will plan to go for the #3 or #4 card, SLI it to get #1 beating performance and keep repeating the process for every upgrade cycle.
Man...looks like you had a long trouble some journey with your PC build. I think it's best to just stick with the highest end in the single GPU category man. And no matter they hype about multi-gpu solutions, in the end i still think it's not stable. You don't need to trust me, just look on benchmarks on sli-cards, watch some youtube videos on it if you could, it's really obvious. Multti-gpu solutions do churn out really high maximum FPS, but it is so unstable that its minimun is even lower than a single GPU card.
Not to mention that, despite Xfire and SLI being in the market for awhile, some games do not just support it. Remember GTA 4? man that was a disaster, even for a single GPU....and I don't expect GTA 5 to be supporting multi GPU solutions as well, massive games like this are just too costly to optimize for all platforms. Now that the hardware in the new gen consoles are X86 based, this might be better though, but still I don't think it will be GPU friendly. However this is one game you must buy though, I played it on the XBOX and it's a major impact which make me sell it and wait for PC...it's just like wasting premium food with crappy wine.
kungfury7. I know what you are saying about SLI and Xfire dude. TBH, I agree with you, but even then I am surprised that so many people just go multi-gpu!. I have been told that SLI is far more stable than Xfire. Bearing in mind my experience with the Asus 7990HD and crappy AMD drivers, I can believe that. But I guess I just want to satisfy my curiosity with regards to a multi-gpu set up, so I jumped on the band wagon!. I am looking forward to receiving my 770GTX sli. Hopefully arriving tomorrow. Will let you know how I get on. Yeah, I have had some bad luck with my rig over the last few months. I think I picked up some bad mojo from somewhere!. Never had any problems building or upgrading my pc (and I started building my own pc back in March 2007!). My rig -
AMD FX9590
Alpenfohn K2 mount doom cooler
Asus Crosshair V Formula Z mobo
Team extreme 16GB RAM at 2400MHz.
Palit 780Ti (which I have RMA and I am getting Zotac 2x770GTX for sli)
Samsung evo 500GB ssd (boot drive)
Samsung evo 250GB ss (favourite games 1)
Kingston HyperX 240GB ssd (favourite games 2)
WD caviar black 2TB HDD (7200rpm)
Hitachi 4TB HDD (7200rpm)
Creative ZXR soundblaster
Coolermaster silent pro Gold 80+ gold 1200w psu
CM storm trooper
LG-BDREx2
BenQ XL2411T
Gamdias Hermes gaming mech keyboard (soooo sexy)
Gamdias Zeus esport gaming mouse.
Logitech X-540 (but ordered microlabs FC 360, 5.1 speaker system - apparently kicks ass).
Dude go to you tube and check out 'the large pixel collider'. Oh my goodness, I had wet dreams for a week!. That is the sort of build I want to eventually own. But not easy to fulfil if you are currently a student. Such a shame.....
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January 2, 2014 11:08:20 AM
canopus72 said:
kungfury7 said:
canopus72 said:
kungfury7 said:
canopus72 said:
nemtrac5 said:
I'm looking at buying a GTX 770 for 350$ right now, but it seems the next generation is coming out in February so I'm curious as to if it is worth the two month wait or how much the price goes down? I'm going for an future-proof SLI build with an OCing CPU.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.95 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1170.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 12:37 EST-0500)
Hi. I am in a similar position as you (wrt GFX cards). I am gaming on a single monitor (BenQXL2411T). Long story short, I had a 780GTX (upgrade from 680GTX), I sold it in November because I thought I was 'upgrading' to the Asus 7990HD (£400 Amazon). I had to RMA the 7990HD (see my UK Amazon review), bought a Palit 780Ti from Dabs for £500 (which turned out be Sh*t because very poor bench results and frame tearing when gaming). On heaven 4, it was scoring only 1313 points (with everything maxed out). My previous Zotac 780GTX was scoring 1521 points with everything maxed out. I was advised by Novatech to RMA the Palit and get another Ti. However, other brands of 780Ti are a lot more expensive.
Yesterday, I was considering the XFX-280X from Dabs (selling for £240) and I placed my order for two units, but after reading Amazon reviews about heating issues of VRM and Xfire, I have now changed my mind and have opted to go for a pair of Zotac 770GTX (2GB) in SLI. What really convinced me were these two reviews -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMsg8qqva0
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sl...
According to above, the 770GTX in SLI completely destroys the Titan, 780GTX and 7990HD by c.20%-30%. I know the 770GTX is the old GK104 chipset as the 680GTX (albeit a revamped and improved version), but it is the cheapest solution currently available at or below the £500 mark (as it even beats the Titan and when comparing benchmark data, I believe it beats 780Ti). Only an SLI Titan, 780GTX/Ti can beat the 770GTX-SLI, but they are much more expensive options. I have read about SLI issues and TBH, I have never used SLI before so I will know what it is like when I receive it.
The alternative is 280X Xfire (Dabs are selling the XFX-280X for £240, which is why I ordered two units). Can 280X Xfire beat 770GTX SLI?. I don't know and if my experience with 7990HD means anything, I don't want 280X-Xfire overheating my mobo, cpu, etc (as 7990HD did) and I don't want the ball ache of faffing around with fickle AMD drivers. It is also interesting to note that XFX give lifetime warranty on their graphics in USA (I don't know about Australia and Canada). However, XFX clearly states on it's website that it does not offer manufacturer warranty in UK (XFX has dumped the responsibility of warranty on retailers. I think that is absolutely disgusting behaviour and it was another reason which swayed me back to Nvidia). Also UK retailers warranty on XFX products vary from one retailer to another (Scan offers 1 year warranty, Novatech offers 2 years warranty and Dabs apparently offers 3 years warranty BUT the lady at Dabs told me the Palit 780Ti has 3 years warranty and when I contacted Palit, they said 'not 3 years, it has 2 years warranty').
I decided to go for the 770GTX SLI because I have always used Nvidia (their cards run much cooler and their software is much better and more stable than AMD). Also Ebuyer were selling Zotac 770GTX (2GB) for £240 (reduced from original rrp of £350), which is why I bought two (£480). Zotac graphics cards also come with 5 years warranty BUT you need to register them within the first two weeks of purchase, otherwise you will only get 2 years warranty.
To conclude, I went for 4th rung Nvidia card in SLI, because not only does it give Titan and Ti beating performance, but it does so at below £500 (cost me £480!). The cheapest 780Ti card I could find was on Novatech (Zotac 780Ti) for £530. That is a saving of £50!. A great way to get Titan beating performance if you are on a budget.
I am going to use my 770GTX SLI rig until Maxwell/800 series comes out. I will then check prices and reviews and take it from there. I suspect upon release of 800 series, Nvidia will not lower prices of current 700 series by much because their competitor (AMD) is currently enjoying massive sales of their graphics cards due to high demand by litecoin and bit coin miners. AMD is on the gravy boat, which is why they hiked prices of their 280X and 290/X models (example - when sapphire 280X toxic was released in mid November 2013, it was selling on Amazon, Dabs, etc for £250. It is now selling on these sites for £350!).
I honestly think AMD are going to keep their prices as high as possible for as long as possible and Nvidia will look at AMD and mirror the same behaviour. The only way Nvidia will lower prices is if for some reason, AMD's fortunes change and they are forced to lower the rrp of their cards.
I suggest you look around, because retailers will be offering good deals every now and then (I managed to find a good offer on Dabs and Ebuyer). Once you find a 770GTX at a good price, then buy it. Buy two if you can. Don't keep 'holding out', because it could be a waste of time. As the saying goes 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'.
You should have just stick to the GTX 780...I mean just in general, the graphics cards of this recent gen is just plane ridiculous, you are paying premium for a lackluster performance, even for the highest end cards like 7990. I'm looking forward to my new build with the GTX 800 series...once they come out of course.
Kungfury7. Yeah, I really regret selling my Zotac 780GTX. That was a mistake (but you live and you learn). Admittedly I did pay premium price for the 780GTX and for the Palit 780Ti (although I will get my money back on the Palit). So I have decided to be thrifty this time and use the fourth rung card (in SLI) on the Nvidia hierarchy. I will use it as a stop gap and who knows, if it gives far better performance than the 780Ti and gives the 880 a run for it's money, then I will keep on using the 770GTX SLI. When it is time for an upgrade, I will get the 870GTX (a revamped 780GTX) and by that time, prices will have dropped.
The mistake I made was not buying the 780GTX and 780Ti, but not knowing that ebayers are now being extremely miserly when bidding on top end graphics cards. It makes sense, because at the end of the day, how many people can afford to shell out £400 or £450 for a second hand top graphics card?. Not many. In fact, most people would be hard pressed to pay beyond £320 for an excellent condition 780GTX.
On the converse end of the scale, I purchased my Zotac 770GTX for only £240 brand new. It comes with 5 years warranty. When I come to sell it on ebay, I think I will recoup the majority of my money, because most people can afford to pay £200-£250 for a good quality graphics card, so competition between bidders will be high.
So the trick is to aim for the runner up (#3 or #4), because it will be a damn sight cheaper than the #1 gfx card, even in SLI. Not only this, but it will give equal performance to the #1 card or even surpass it and at the end of the day, when you sell it on ebay, you will have a much greater chance of recouping the majority of your money as the majority of ebayers can afford to buy a gfx card within the £200-£250 price bracket. I know this from past experience with my 460GTX, 560GTX-SOC and 660GTX. I have learned my lesson now, so I will plan to go for the #3 or #4 card, SLI it to get #1 beating performance and keep repeating the process for every upgrade cycle.
Man...looks like you had a long trouble some journey with your PC build. I think it's best to just stick with the highest end in the single GPU category man. And no matter they hype about multi-gpu solutions, in the end i still think it's not stable. You don't need to trust me, just look on benchmarks on sli-cards, watch some youtube videos on it if you could, it's really obvious. Multti-gpu solutions do churn out really high maximum FPS, but it is so unstable that its minimun is even lower than a single GPU card.
Not to mention that, despite Xfire and SLI being in the market for awhile, some games do not just support it. Remember GTA 4? man that was a disaster, even for a single GPU....and I don't expect GTA 5 to be supporting multi GPU solutions as well, massive games like this are just too costly to optimize for all platforms. Now that the hardware in the new gen consoles are X86 based, this might be better though, but still I don't think it will be GPU friendly. However this is one game you must buy though, I played it on the XBOX and it's a major impact which make me sell it and wait for PC...it's just like wasting premium food with crappy wine.
kungfury7. I know what you are saying about SLI and Xfire dude. TBH, I agree with you, but even then I am surprised that so many people just go multi-gpu!. I have been told that SLI is far more stable than Xfire. Bearing in mind my experience with the Asus 7990HD and crappy AMD drivers, I can believe that. But I guess I just want to satisfy my curiosity with regards to a multi-gpu set up, so I jumped on the band wagon!. I am looking forward to receiving my 770GTX sli. Hopefully arriving tomorrow. Will let you know how I get on. Yeah, I have had some bad luck with my rig over the last few months. I think I picked up some bad mojo from somewhere!. Never had any problems building or upgrading my pc (and I started building my own pc back in March 2007!). My rig -
AMD FX9590
Alpenfohn K2 mount doom cooler
Asus Crosshair V Formula Z mobo
Team extreme 16GB RAM at 2400MHz.
Palit 780Ti (which I have RMA and I am getting Zotac 2x770GTX for sli)
Samsung evo 500GB ssd (boot drive)
Samsung evo 250GB ss (favourite games 1)
Kingston HyperX 240GB ssd (favourite games 2)
WD caviar black 2TB HDD (7200rpm)
Hitachi 4TB HDD (7200rpm)
Creative ZXR soundblaster
Coolermaster silent pro Gold 80+ gold 1200w psu
CM storm trooper
LG-BDREx2
BenQ XL2411T
Gamdias Hermes gaming mech keyboard (soooo sexy)
Gamdias Zeus esport gaming mouse.
Logitech X-540 (but ordered microlabs FC 360, 5.1 speaker system - apparently kicks ass).
Well dude, I know it's fun doing a lot of "tinkering" with your PC, I do understand. If you have the money to do it then go ahead bro! It's your money! If it gives you joy to switch parts frequently then, be my guest. Hell, I even commemorate you for doing that, most ppl don't have the balls and the money to do it. I'm just trying to suggest the best possible route with your money that's all, because I have done a lot of research.
BTW though, i'm not trying to be an NVIDIA fanboy crapping on you or anything, but AMD was never my choice for PC building. For CPU, it is true that their models are cheap, but the intel processors just perform better, although with a bigger price tag. But since you are willing to pay premium, why not go for the CPU that will perform the best? But considering the FX9590 is their top end offering, i guess it will perform well...
Actually my friend has an AMD build though, with ROG mobo and high end GPU and everything. He just had this day....which I would dub as The Day of Infamy in which everything just breaks...everything AMD from motherboard, CPU, GPU. My current build, which I bought the same day as his two years ago, still functions well up until this day. I don't what is it with AMD though, their offerings are cheap, but quality wise it is still questionable.
BTW, just saw you are using the Benq gaming monitor, 2411T. It is one of my contenders, with the ASUS VG248QE. How does it perform though? I'm confident about its responsiveness but what about its color accuracy? Are the colors dull?
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BTW though, i'm not trying to be an NVIDIA fanboy crapping on you or anything, but AMD was never my choice for PC building. For CPU, it is true that their models are cheap, but the intel processors just perform better, although with a bigger price tag. But since you are willing to pay premium, why not go for the CPU that will perform the best? But considering the FX9590 is their top end offering, i guess it will perform well...
I agree. Intel is top dog for CPUs right now
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Actually my friend has an AMD build though, with ROG mobo and high end GPU and everything. He just had this day....which I would dub as The Day of Infamy in which everything just breaks...everything AMD from motherboard, CPU, GPU. My current build, which I bought the same day as his two years ago, still functions well up until this day. I don't what is it with AMD though, their offerings are cheap, but quality wise it is still questionable
Uhh that is highly unlikely unless he had a POS PSU that fried everything
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mehowcool
January 26, 2014 6:20:34 PM
CaptainTom said:
nemtrac5 said:
CaptainTom said:
I would definitely wait. Right now is the worst time to get a GPU. Also I would rethink the 770. 2GB is not enough and the 280X is cheaper...Why would i need more than 2GB for gaming? Everything Iv'e heard says you don't use more than 2gb. Thanks for the answers everyone. I don't know if i can hold out for 1 months (or more if mid-february) since I would have no gaming method other than xbox. How much do you guys think the price will drop?
In BF4 my 7970 OC'd uses 2.4 GB at times in the new maps. Do you really think 2GB is enough if over 2GB is already standard now?
Nvidia is infamous for skimping on memory. The R7-260X uses 2GB of ram and is a mainstream graphics card costing $120. Should a $340 GPU have the same capacity as a card that costs half as much?
LOL, how is over 2GBs the "standard" now? Just because it goes over 2GBs in one game doesn't mean its the standard, it just means the game is taxing. 2GBs are fine if your planning on sticking with one monitor with 1080p, no need to spend another $50-60 for 2 more GBs...
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Gweese_king
January 26, 2014 11:32:08 PM
mehowcool said:
CaptainTom said:
nemtrac5 said:
CaptainTom said:
I would definitely wait. Right now is the worst time to get a GPU. Also I would rethink the 770. 2GB is not enough and the 280X is cheaper...Why would i need more than 2GB for gaming? Everything Iv'e heard says you don't use more than 2gb. Thanks for the answers everyone. I don't know if i can hold out for 1 months (or more if mid-february) since I would have no gaming method other than xbox. How much do you guys think the price will drop?
In BF4 my 7970 OC'd uses 2.4 GB at times in the new maps. Do you really think 2GB is enough if over 2GB is already standard now?
Nvidia is infamous for skimping on memory. The R7-260X uses 2GB of ram and is a mainstream graphics card costing $120. Should a $340 GPU have the same capacity as a card that costs half as much?
LOL, how is over 2GBs the "standard" now? Just because it goes over 2GBs in one game doesn't mean its the standard, it just means the game is taxing. 2GBs are fine if your planning on sticking with one monitor with 1080p, no need to spend another $50-60 for 2 more GBs...
2GB of VRAM is definately enough for most modern titles. However, if some high end titles are begining to use over 2gb now.... in terms of future proofing, your best bet is to buy the best single gpu that you can afford. Following that logic, wait for the 800 series to drop, check prices and pull the trigger. I have two gtx660's in SLI and while they benchmark well, the support in many new titles just is not there. Couple that with driver issues and instability and it can make for some frustrating trouble shooting. I recently pulled out one card and am selling it in preparation for upgrading to a 780 when the 800's come out. And I will definately try and get more than 2gb VRAM because its worth it imo.SLI does NOT double your VRAM btw...
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nemtrac5
February 3, 2014 12:41:40 PM
I bought the 2gb Vram card and came to the conclusion that if I really need the extra then I will just upgrade to a single GPU rather than SLIing my current 770. It is true that BF4 can go over 2 gb of Vram - but ONLY UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. It will still run on ultra but maybe down the road I won't be able to put some of the other settings that are less important to me all the way up. Additionally, there is question of whether one 770 has the power to maximize 4gb of Vram (I have limited knowledge on this) in which case maybe SLI 4gbs is a good option. To me it wasn't worth the 80 bucks for the extra 2 gb when there has been no concrete evidence of the extra 2 gb helping performance wise and no concise answer on whether getting the 4gb will be a big enough benefit for the future.
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