How much will dust filters restrict airflow? 20%? 50%?

seanpatrick

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Hey all,

I just picked up a new Fractal R4 case from newegg and am planning out the airflow. The many articles I've read seem to indicate that negative case pressure is slightly better for cooling then positive. For the record I'm running a 3570k oc'd to 4.4 ( though it clocks down when idle ) and a gtx 680 oc'd by about 140mhz (didn't touch the voltage).
I'm assuming that airflow is restricted about 50% by the filters. As such, I've planned for 3 intakes (1x66 cfm R2 fractal design and 2x56 cfm bitfenix located at the front 2 positions and 1 on the bottom of the case ) bringing my total intake to 178cfm. Assuming that airflow is restricted by half this is ~89 cfm total entering the case. For exhaust I thought I'd run two at the back and top back of the case, at 66cfm and 56 cfm respectively - bringing my total exhaust to 122cfm ( no filters for exhaust obviously ).

The other option is to run three intakes in the positions mentioned but only one exhaust at the rear of the case. Where this would normally make for positive case pressure I've reasoned that if I restrict ( with fan Xpert or the like ) the rpm of the intakes to peak at 50%, I wouldn't get an intake of more then ~45Cfm ( 178cfm / 2 ( filters ) = 89 x .50 = 44.5 cfm ). If I also set the one rear exhaust (66 cfm ) to never power down beyond 70 % ( 66 / 45 = 68cfm ) then I would still have a negative case pressure situation, albeit with less total airflow through the case - while maximizing the area's of air intake by having 3 fan intake positions.

Is my reasoning sound here? or am I way off.
Thanks for the input guys! ( and gal )

 

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You're doing a fine job planning this out, but there's another thing to take into consideration. Whether to go + or - is mostly dependent on what kind of GPU cooling you have. If you have a blower card(s), positive pressure is better as blower cards don't really need any exhaust as they already push all the heat outside the case, and in most setups, a CPU cooler is already next to a rear/top exhaust, so that's taken care of as well.

If you're running open-air GPUs, you'll probably want to go negative in order to remove the hot air that those kind of cards dump back into the case. This is especially true if you ever plan on going to a multi-card setup.
 

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I'm running an EVGA 680 gtx 4g w/ backplate:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130799

It's the first I've heard that the blower vs dual and triple fan figures into the airflow and pressure planning of a build - but certainly an interesting insight. Wouldn't positive air pressure over long periods of time - regardless of whether or not it's a blower config - heat up the inside of the case due to a deficit of air being exhausted?
 

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Interesting. So in your opinion I'm I'd be better off with the three intakes w/o any rpm restrictions on them and just the one exhaust, giving me 89cfm in and 66cfm out then.

I could always add the side intake in as well - though if I open up too many exhausts / intakes it will kind of defeat the purpose of having a silent / low noise case like the R4.

 

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With the bottom intake, you won't need the side intake since the gpu will already be sucking up plenty of cool air from below. I'd recommend leaving the 3 intakes as high as possible until just before they become too audible, then maybe having the rear exhaust be a PWM fan so that it only ramps up when the CPU is under load.
 

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The two included fans and the three new fans are all PWM fans actually. If I'm only running 4 fans they can all be controlled of the motherboard ( the p877 v pro, which has 4 fan connectors ). The Fractal does have a fan controller for 3 fans that I could utilize, with a speed selector on the front of the case, but I'd rather have fan control done through the the former. This is not to say I can't create curves for all the fans - or for that matter have the three intakes running at a certain threshold and only ramp the exhaust up depending on ambient case temperature. It does however give me the ability to run the intakes on a curve, and have them ramp up in unison with the exhaust depending on temps.
I think your suggestion though - of 3 intakes and 1 exhaust - is a good one. I found an article by googling the information you relayed about blower cards and case pressure that backed up your assertions with some visuals: http://www.silverstonetek.com/techtalk_cont.php?tid=wh_positive&area=usa.
I think therefor I'll start with that configuration in mind. Depending on my temps incurred at idle and under load in my initial config I'll either keep it straight off the bat or compare it with a negative pressure solution, just for posterity.




 

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Yeah, when you have a small case like the R4, it pays to experiment since you're looking for low noise on top of decent cooling performance. For me it's (much) less of an issue since my current gaming system is housed in a Raven RV-02, which requires little more than just dropping components in and letting the stock cooling setup do its thing, but in my backup system inside a Corsair 200R, I had to play around with different fans, filters, and mounting options before I got to a good middle ground. Good luck with your new setup.