I have the hp envy h8-1534 and I would like to upgrade the graphics card. I am looking for a card that will play skyrim on ultra with mods or normal. I am also looking for a graphics card that won't burn a hole in my wallet. Any suggestions for a card that I should buy and would compatible with my pc?
hp envy h8-1534 graphics card upgrade
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If this is your PC and it has the stock 460W PSU, look on the PSU's nameplate and see what the +12V rating is. That will determine if you can go with a powerful card or not. And what CPU came with yours?
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I am not sure what the actual rating is but my friend told me it has a 120v rating but on the PSU I see things like +12Va, +12Vb, +12Vc and stuff like that. I'm not sure if this is good or bad. Also the processor is AMD FX 6200. Is there any suggestions on cards that would be best for my computer for a good price with this information? I wouldn't be against upgrading the PSU if I had to either, but if I did what would you suggest?
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The graphic card can be the most power demanding device in your PC. If you have a "real" 460W PSU, you can pick from almost any gfx card you can afford. But if it is a cheap PSU, it won't be able to handle 460W of power. In fact, overloading it could damage the PC. Some PSU manufacturers tend to be... less than honest. So, from your description (and the fact that it is an HP), it sounds like it might be a decent quality PSU with 3 x +12V rails; +12Va, +12Vb, +12Vc
What I need is
1) the amp rating for those 3 rails.
2) your budget for a card
3) the resolution of your monitor.
What I need is
1) the amp rating for those 3 rails.
2) your budget for a card
3) the resolution of your monitor.
The PSU says +12Va ----15A
+12Vb ----18A
+12Vc ----10A
Then it skips down to
+5.08V ---- 15A
+3.3V ----2A
+5.08Vsb----2A
-12V----0.3A
I am not sure if this is the amps or not I see on the PSU 100-240V ~/ 8A, 50-60Hz and 460W. That is all the information i can find on the PSU that I would think that you would find useful or not. My budget is anywhere from $100-$250 for the card and anything from $50-$200 on the PSU. If I can get away with a cheaper one of each that would be fine too. The resolution on the monitor is 1920x1080.
+12Vb ----18A
+12Vc ----10A
Then it skips down to
+5.08V ---- 15A
+3.3V ----2A
+5.08Vsb----2A
-12V----0.3A
I am not sure if this is the amps or not I see on the PSU 100-240V ~/ 8A, 50-60Hz and 460W. That is all the information i can find on the PSU that I would think that you would find useful or not. My budget is anywhere from $100-$250 for the card and anything from $50-$200 on the PSU. If I can get away with a cheaper one of each that would be fine too. The resolution on the monitor is 1920x1080.
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OK. The (3) +12V rails are what is important for finding how much gfx card you can use without overloading the PSU. You have a 43 amp capacity. So you can use just about any card you can afford. How much do you want to spend? 100$ $150 $200 more?
And what resolution is your monitor? The higher the rez, the more work the card has to do to render each frame.
And what resolution is your monitor? The higher the rez, the more work the card has to do to render each frame.
- Apr 22, 2009
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Hmmm... I don't know about ultra for $150, but here is a list of cards from $200 down to $100. At 1080p, you need a pretty strong card to play modern games at Ultra. For $150, the GTX 650ti, HD 7790, and R7 260X would be marginal. But you could do high-ish settings. I don't play Skyrim, so I don't know for sure.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%204017&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICED&PageSize=20
And here is site that you can use to compare cards: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/815
They've got GPU years 2012, 13, and 14 in the links above.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%204017&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICED&PageSize=20
And here is site that you can use to compare cards: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/815
They've got GPU years 2012, 13, and 14 in the links above.
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The power-hungry devices in your PC run off the +12V rail (circuit). Your gfx card and CPU being the most power hungry. The FX-6200 is a 125W watt processor when maxed out. Using Ohm's Law, that relates to ~10.4 amps on the +12V rail(s). A R9-270X (for example) is a 180W card maxed out*. That relates to 15 amps on the +12V rail(s). The rest of the system will only be a miniscule draw on the +12V rail(s). So you can see that you still have headroom for higher powered cards if you want to spend more than $200.
* http://www.hwcompare.com/15657/radeon-r9-270x/
You can use this site to check the total wattage (power) a card will use. Just divide the watts by +12 to get the amps it will draw on the +12V rail(s).
* http://www.hwcompare.com/15657/radeon-r9-270x/
You can use this site to check the total wattage (power) a card will use. Just divide the watts by +12 to get the amps it will draw on the +12V rail(s).
So I was thinking either the "MSI N660 Gaming 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 SLI Support Video Card" or the "EVGA 01G-P4-2650-KR GeForce GTX 650 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card" for my choices one is $200 and one is $119. Which one would probably need a new PSU and which one in your opinion would be better for gaming?
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No comparison. The MSI Twin Frozr would be the best for gaming by far. I have two of these in the rig in my sig below. Great cards with a great cooling system. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127699
Is that the model you mean?
660 vs 650 comparison: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/681?vs=660
And that isn't even the factory OC version of the 660 you are looking at.
Your PSU has the capacity to run either of the cards you mention.
http://www.hwcompare.com/13458/geforce-gtx-650-vs-geforce-gtx-660/
Is that the model you mean?
660 vs 650 comparison: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/681?vs=660
And that isn't even the factory OC version of the 660 you are looking at.
Your PSU has the capacity to run either of the cards you mention.
http://www.hwcompare.com/13458/geforce-gtx-650-vs-geforce-gtx-660/
Earlier you said you have similar graphics cards to the one I ordered. I just got the card in and I am trying to run my computer on the new GPU but I start it up and it goes to a black screen. Can you help me and tell me the steps that you when through to start it up correctly? So I turned off secure boot and turned on legacy boot. I disabled the old GPU and then tried to start up my computer and it did not start up to the login menu it just went black right before that. The card has the PCI x 16 slot that I plugged in and then the 6 pin cable that was coming out of my PSU and connected that to my GPU also. Is there anything that I am missing?
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Secure Boot? Legacy Boot? I have no idea what that is. You should simply have to uninstall any old gfx driver* you may have been using from a previous gfx card, shut down, install the card, and reboot. Windows will then load a default driver. But it sounds like you aren't even getting past POST. What do you mean you disabled the old gpu? Removed it?
*If you had no previous discrete card, the integrated video driver can remain. Did you have a card in before?
*If you had no previous discrete card, the integrated video driver can remain. Did you have a card in before?
Well for the HP envy i have the option to disable the gfx card thats in the system right now. I am not sure what will happen if i just uninstall the driver to the old card since it came in the envy when i bought it. Do i install the new drivers before the new card is put in or just leave no drivers on the computer? Will it run at all with no driver installed?
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Earlier when you mentioned the old card, I assumed you were talking a discrete card. Now I'm beginning to think you meant an integrated graphics adapter; not a true card, just a video chip on the MB. Which is it? Discrete card or integrated graphics?
Edit:
Apparently you removed the card if you had one in place, because you say it is working. If so, yes you can follow the instructions on the CD for installing the driver. Or you can go the the AMD website and download the latest driver for the card.
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx
Edit:
Apparently you removed the card if you had one in place, because you say it is working. If so, yes you can follow the instructions on the CD for installing the driver. Or you can go the the AMD website and download the latest driver for the card.
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx
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