Webmail client in Ubuntu ... what does that mean ?

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Gents:

I just happened on an infomercial for a Linux email program called "mailpile". It advertizes itself as a 'webmail client' ... which phrase to me is an oxymoron. Pardon my ignorance. It claims to allow local-storage of emails on your own box.

https://www.mailpile.is/

My ISP (AT&T) has forbidden client-server email and forces email users into their commercial laden "webmail" site. Does the "mailpile" program somehow defeat AT&T email constraints bypassing their (Yahoo) email server, perhaps providing its own server or does it just slap-a-skin on the AT&T webmail protocol? Or something else ???



 
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Is it really possible you have never heard of a mail client? Outlook, Thunderbird, Windows Mail???????????

Mail clients interface with the email provider by using either IMAP or POP protocols.
Thus if AT&T does not offer IMAP or POP access then you will not be able to use a mail client.
Yahoo email certainly does have IMAP/POP access as does virtually every webmail in existence!
 
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BigS:

I used the Evolution POP email client for years with Ubuntu ... until AT&T disabled the service. Now I am forced to use AT&T webmail at their site, a very unpleasant mawkish site.

My question, though, has to do with the specific terminology of the MAILPILE ad ... what is the meaning of the phrase "webmail client" ? Are they just mixmastering words? I don't know a better way to state a question about MAILPILEs claims.



 
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Mailpile is more aimed at people that want to run their own email server either in the cloud or on their own computers at home, mainly for their own security. Perhaps the NSA monitors everything through @yahoo.com but maybe not @nss000.com . For most users I see little if any advantage over thunderbird and no advantage over dovecot.
 
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You missed this little jewel:
This feature is not available for free att.net email accounts created after 6/12/11.
Click to expand...
Only accounts set up before that date can use a client such as Outlook. Accounts set up after that date are restricted to browser access only.
 
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Probably not. On the AT&T website you missed THIS little gem:

**This feature is not available for free att.net email accounts created after 6/12/11.**

My guess? AT&T is pimping the claim that their email service is a "free" feature. Thus I may-NOT use my own email client to access IMAP/POP email from AT&T. AT&T phone-reps have assured me this is the case. My question about the phrase 'webmail client' remains --- unanswered.



 
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Gladly. To my knowledge AT&T provides the only copper-wire internet service in Jacksonville. Will you advise an alternate company?



 
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Googlemail and Hotmail are probably the best known free e-mail providers. There are a host of others. If you don't like free providers you can pay a few dollars a year for web and/or email services. I get 100 mailboxes from my web and mail provider. That costs me about $20 per year.

Apart from the better access and lack of adverts there are many good reasons to use a mail provider other than your ISP.
 
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How does that work exactly? Since say 1997 I have got email POP-client/server service from my ISP. Then a year ago AT&T_scum my current ISP pulled POP-email service and substituted ad-infested WebMail.

Scum_AT&T POP-grandfathering comment is just a damned-lie. Anyrate, I have no "feel" at all for non-ISP email service ... any details or explaination will be appreciated as I surely lack a vocabulary to query the issue. And ... what happens to my **current** email address. Does scum_AT&T still control/own/rape/pimp it or can I disable or carry it with me?



 
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Don't confuse ISP and email. Your ISP may provide email but you don't have to use it. Get a gmail account and access it using any normal email client. It may take a little tweaking as some ISPs block outgoing traffic on port 25 but there are easy workarounds.
 
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Ijack:

Yes I DO tie email+ISP 100%, or at least copper-wire access+email. I have a dumb-phone and do not wireless otherwise. Webmail is to me a b*stard-child; always used POP since 1997 until scum_AT&T removed it.

I have maintained a GMAIL account for years; I consider the service hard-to-use, and since it comes with it's OWN obscure interface poorly reproduced by my Ubuntu system I have no idea what you even mean by saying 'access it using any normal email client'. I have no such concept.

Besides I HATE the idea of GOOGLE mauling every word I pass thru their system. I rarely use my GMAIL account. Does scum_AT&T own exclusive POP-IMAP copper-wire rights for email in Jacksonville? And then refuse to provide the service.
 
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OK - you pays your money, you takes your choice.

I'm always amused that people worry about Google seeing their data when the NSA has access to everything anyway. Those are the guys you want to worry about, not Google.

Life is full of compromises; you have to choose what is most important to you. To me it's a nice easy mail system that just works; and if Google see that mail - why should I care. Mind, I maintain several email accounts so I can pick which data I let who see. (Except the NSA; you can't hide from them. I just hope they're happy reading the details of my humdrum life.)
 
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In your gmail go to settings, advanced, and click on the mail transfer Tab. There you can activate pop3 and then use thunderbird to send and receive emails. On doing this. from memory and it may be slightly different.
 
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I think (re)publican USA citizens need to hurt gestapo_NSA whenever and however they can. A spooks job is to scr*w foreign enemies not citizens. We need to change passive sheeple default behavior. Imagine what you will ... but , vigorously deliver pain-to-power and make it so-very not amused!



 
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As well as a weird failure-mode login ( I can login only when login reports fail ...) My GMAIL UI has no "setting" icon/prompt.
Really not OKey ... I keep it as a "joke". Some may use it just fine, but for me -- on my system -- it's last Centuries technology.

After all this exchange I gather //BTW// that the phrase "webmail client" used by Dogpile is indeed a functioning creature in a possible world. Not mine though. Thanks to all contributors. I see NO viable solution to my email issue ... except moving to a city with a POP-email providing ISP.




 
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Ijack:

Hahahahaha 175! ZERO is the number. That's correct. Excepting AT&T there are zero (0) ISPs in Jacksonville that provide any DSL service whatsoever. AT&T has a complete monopoly on wired DSL and "competes"(hackgagcough) only with COMCAST Cable and DISH satellite. I have written the FCC pointing to AT&Ts sado-monopoly behavior of dropping USENET and POP-mail ... but, naturally have heard nothing from Obama.nation pimps.
 
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