Which game pc is better ?

GulhanG · Dec 30, 2013

which build is better for games

could you maybe tell the differenes in fps too maybe?

is it worth the money?

1st build: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.89 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.95 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.12 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($20.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $735.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-30 21:45 EST-0500)

2nd build :
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.89 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.95 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($92.39 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.12 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($20.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $729.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-30 21:48 EST-0500)

NOTE* Ican only order from amazon as i live in europe
-some amazon products don't even ship to europe.(il figure it ouT )

My budget is aroud 700-750 dollars (550euros)

Calnin · Dec 30, 2013

the i5 would bring you better performance overall i believe.

aevm · Dec 30, 2013

The GTX 760 should be paired with a 500W PSU or larger. Get a Corsair CX500 for example.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760/specifications

The first build is a bit faster at making zip files for example. I don't think you'd see a difference in fps in games.

taylor225 · Dec 30, 2013

i like the intel build but u have to get a different psu if you dont u risk damaging your pc cause the recommened wattage is 600 to 650 your psu is 450 also what the other guy in the other thread said dont bother getting a lower than 600 watt psu if u dont u just risk screwing yourself and a $700 pc

taylor225 · Dec 30, 2013

also the i5 is better for gaming and there might be like a 5 to 10 fps increase maybe more but i would stick with the i5 its best for gaming

GulhanG · Dec 30, 2013

Thanks guys , ive read soem other posts and i'm now thinking is the motherboard overclockable?

GulhanG · Dec 30, 2013

Would this be good if i would awant to overclock it ?
and is it woth to overclock , will i se much differnce?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.72 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.89 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.95 @ Amazon)
Case: Sentey CS1-1398 PLUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.12 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($20.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $764.62
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-30 22:12 EST-0500)

Beezy · Dec 30, 2013

the i5 will be the better gaming rig. The AMD chips only really shine when running a lot of application alongside one another. So like gaming + running recording software, or streaming software + the operating system + say a virus scan, idk. The AMD chips multiple cores will really help a lot. But for strictly gaming that i5 will be better because games usually use less cores, and intel has less cores, but much higher performance per core.

Beezy · Dec 30, 2013

this is essentially what AMD's "Mantle" was supposed to address. Allowing games that use 2 or 4 cores max, to utilize all 6 or 8 available (whereas now they are kind of "wasted" with those games)

Beezy · Dec 30, 2013

and yes overclocking, with sufficient cooling, can get you up to 10 more FPS over what you get at stock id say, especially with demanding games (where youll really see the overclock shine)

GulhanG · Dec 30, 2013

Beezy :

Is the cooler good that i choose

Calnin · Dec 30, 2013

212 evo should give you a decent overclock.

GulhanG · Dec 30, 2013

Guys thanks for everything but i'm gonna go with the AMD build people playing at around 50fps BF4 while recording , as i won't be recording so.

AND I LIKE THE AMD CASE SOOOO MUCH THAT 10fps AINT GONNA HURT ME above 50 fps =D

Wisecracker · Dec 30, 2013

Asus M5A97 R2.0 Motherboard: £59.00

AMD FX6300 Black Edition: £82.49

Sapphire Dual-X AMD Radeon R9 280X OC 3GB: £238.32

GulhanG · Dec 30, 2013

Wisecracker :

would this be better?

Beezy · Dec 30, 2013

Calnin :

2nd that, the EVO is the same price most of the time ~30 and is a bit better

Beezy · Dec 30, 2013

GulhanG :

I see your point. Since you made that choice and WILL be overclocking (you have to overclock the FX chips to even begin to compare them to their intel counterparts) get the FX 6300 instead, same chip, just pre overclocked.

Beezy · Dec 30, 2013

GulhanG :

yes this is a step up. the 280x competes with the 770. Its really a good GPU very powerful, but power hungry too. The motherboard is a good one, I have it, and the 6300, Hyper 212 EVO, 4.6 Ghz stable. Matches an FX 8320 performance at stock (according to passmark benchmarks)

Beezy · Dec 30, 2013

Batman AC, Tomb Raider, Metro 2033, Bf3 (havnt tested bf4..) all run at 60fps min. on ultra and very high

GulhanG · Dec 31, 2013

Beezy :

So could you make me a pcpartpicker setup please with those specs

750dollars that case i chose isnt necessary as it wont ship to belgium

Beezy · Dec 31, 2013

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2taD1) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2taD1/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2taD1/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6300wmhkbox) | $119.99 @ Newegg
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2) | $29.98 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a97r20) | $94.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/a-data-memory-ax3u1600gc4g92g) | $69.98 @ OutletPC
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003) | $59.98 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr9270x2gbd5ppdhe) | $215.91 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500m) | $49.99 @ Microcenter
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $627.82
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-31 03:05 EST-0500 |

this is a good base. Now you need to tell me if you need an operating system included, and if you need a monitor or keyboard/mouse etc. If you already have a monitor, or know what youll be gaming on, it would be helpful in choosing a good GPU.

Ill put it this way, you look through some cases you like and post em, well tell you which is the best deal and youll like how it looks if you choose it. Any extra money we figure into this well pour right back into the GPU, but for now this is what ive come up with

Beezy · Dec 31, 2013

while i do get 60 fps - 90 in some games i am gaming on 1366 x 768 Vizio HDTV. works for me...but it isnt 1080p

GulhanG · Dec 31, 2013

Beezy :

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2taD1) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2taD1/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2taD1/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6300wmhkbox) | $119.99 @ Newegg
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2) | $29.98 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a97r20) | $94.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/a-data-memory-ax3u1600gc4g92g) | $69.98 @ OutletPC
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003) | $59.98 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr9270x2gbd5ppdhe) | $215.91 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500m) | $49.99 @ Microcenter
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $627.82
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-31 03:05 EST-0500 |

this is a good base. Now you need to tell me if you need an operating system included, and if you need a monitor or keyboard/mouse etc. If you already have a monitor, or know what youll be gaming on, it would be helpful in choosing a good GPU.

Ill put it this way, you look through some cases you like and post em, well tell you which is the best deal and youll like how it looks if you choose it. Any extra money we figure into this well pour right back into the GPU, but for now this is what ive come up with

Thanks don't need an os r other equipment

GulhanG · Dec 31, 2013

Beezy :

I'd probably go with this case
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($215.91 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($90.43 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $718.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-31 03:17 EST-0500)

GulhanG · Dec 31, 2013

Beezy :

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2taD1) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2taD1/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2taD1/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6300wmhkbox) | $119.99 @ Newegg
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2) | $29.98 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a97r20) | $94.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/a-data-memory-ax3u1600gc4g92g) | $69.98 @ OutletPC
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003) | $59.98 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr9270x2gbd5ppdhe) | $215.91 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500m) | $49.99 @ Microcenter
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $627.82
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-31 03:05 EST-0500 |

this is a good base. Now you need to tell me if you need an operating system included, and if you need a monitor or keyboard/mouse etc. If you already have a monitor, or know what youll be gaming on, it would be helpful in choosing a good GPU.

Ill put it this way, you look through some cases you like and post em, well tell you which is the best deal and youll like how it looks if you choose it. Any extra money we figure into this well pour right back into the GPU, but for now this is what ive come up with

*note : in the future don't copy the pcpartpicker/reddit markup
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it gives a better overall view

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