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December 31, 2013 9:25:12 PM

I am getting a 4tb Seagate SSHD Hybrid and am going to clone my existing WD 1 tb (which is almost full) drive to it. Is there anything special I need to know? From what I am reading it seems it should just clone staight over. I am seeing the Acronis software alot so will probably use that.
a c 159 G Storage
December 31, 2013 9:30:05 PM

You are right that is about all you have to do.

You can also use Reflect by Macrium as they have a free version(personal use).

You will want to clone over partitions before the Windows partition(system restore/uefi boot/ect) as well since many times those contain the boot loader and be required for the system to work right.

After cloning, remove the old drive to make sure the system works the way you want it to before erasing the old drive.

It is also a good idea to backup the OS and boot partitions to have a copy for quick recovery if anything bad happens in the future.
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January 2, 2014 6:28:12 PM

There are many software can du that. I once cloned my HDD to a SDD by using aomei backupper.I think Something special you need to know is be careful, read the software instruction or watch video first.
In fact, you can "migrate os to ssd", google it please.
Good luck.
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January 3, 2014 1:59:47 PM

You have to make separate partitions? Thought it was all one big partition. Do you have to make separate partitions for the operating system and other data? I have a SSD that I got for a gift and one of the reason I am not going to use it is the guys who installed it said I would have to do a fresh install of Windows 7 because my HDD is 1 tb that is pretty much full and the SSD was only 240GB.
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January 3, 2014 4:50:23 PM

If your hard drive is that full you would need to remove data to get it down to a size that can fit on the ssd.

By default Windows 7 has a 100 megabyte partition at the start(you can see it is disk management) and then whatever you have for windows and files.

If most of your space use comes from personal files you may be able to do the following.

Use windows built in disk management to shrink the windows partition as much as you can and then create another partition for files.
1. Start + R
2. Type diskmgmt.msc and hit enter

3. Right click you c : and select Shrink Volume
4. Wait a second :) 
5. Enter a shrink size(max this number out).

6. Right click the new unallocated space.
7. Select New simple volume

8. Follow the instructions.
then move over some of your files(this will be multi step because of how full the drive is).

Using a 3rd party partition editor like EaseUS partition master to shrink the windows partition and extend the new file partition and move more files. You can do this over and over until you have moved over all of your files or hare your.

The reason to use a third party tool is simple because windows will not shrink past the last fragment of data while third party tools will move files if needed.

It is VERY important to NOT mess with the start position of you windows drive or any partitions before it. Messing with those can lead to a no boot situation.

Your files are in c : \ users \ your name. so if you give this new drive a letter like d : after all is done you can use the Location tab under each folder to tell windows to look on the other partition for your files. The nice part about this is if you clone to the ssd, you can now use the hard drive for all your files and the ssd for windows and programs.


If you need more help, feel free to ask.

The above images of disk management had been captured for another user wanting to reinstall without having to loose files, so they are reused, this is why I do not have images of partition master. It is not hard to use and should not be an issue.
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January 3, 2014 5:07:40 PM

I think you might have misunderstood me. I have a 1tb HDD now. I got a SSD but not going to use it...didn't think it through enough. I have since purchased a Seagate 4tb SSD/HDD hybrid drive. This is the drive that I am going to use. I plan on cloning my existing 1tb drive onto the 4tb drive.
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a c 159 G Storage
January 3, 2014 5:10:12 PM

well no issues with that.

Either way for future reference, you can split files and windows to use a ssd + hdd if you want as well.
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January 3, 2014 5:12:32 PM

Ok thanks. I just wanted to make sure I could do it without having to do anything special and that Windows 7 should start up ok on the new drive.
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January 3, 2014 5:22:39 PM

Being a 4TB drive you have to make sure that your board has a UEFI bios. only drives under 2tb actually boot on the older bios systems.

Please note that I have never done a normal(if your drive is currently MBR and not GPT) to uefi bios clone. The boot setup is sometimes different.
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January 3, 2014 5:27:24 PM

Yes its a UEFI bios. Well 95% sure it is lol. Will check it out..better be I can't get rid of this drive. Motherboard is only 2 years old. What is MBR and GPT and which one do I need? The older drive is a WD I think black. New one is a Seagate.
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a c 159 G Storage
January 3, 2014 9:20:43 PM

MBR(master boot record) is the normal, but older way of setting up a drive(but has limits, like this size limit). GPT(GUID partition table) replaced it for drives larger than 2TB, but can only boot on systems with the newer uefi bios.

You can use GPT on any drive(even smaller ones) with these newer operating systems and can boot them from UEFI enabled boards.

If you check disk management(driver properties can also be accessed in device management) you can see if you are currently running the drive as GPT or MBR. If it is mbr, I have never personally cloned one from MBR to GPT. This is not to say it can not be done, but you may have to go as far as some users here did.

http://superuser.com/questions/443561/clone-a-windows-installation-to-a-3tb-hard-drive-mbr-to-gpt

They actually installed windows in uefi mode(this creates the extra partitions required for a GTP system since mbr only has 2 and the eufi and gpt combination has 3) and then clone your old windows load OVER this new one(because the boot loader is still pointing to the right place.).

I know it is a pain. it is part of the technology.

Sorry I can not give first hand experience on this exact part because I have yet to do this.
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January 3, 2014 9:54:39 PM

Just checked and my existing HDD is a GPT so it sounds like its a straight shot then.
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a c 159 G Storage
January 4, 2014 8:54:33 AM

Well that is good. it will just be a normal clone and done operation :) 

Remember to test with just the new drive after to ensure everything works and then you should be good to do whatever you want to the old drive.

You may need to tell the bios to boot off the new drive, but some boards can detect this automatically.
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January 4, 2014 2:14:37 PM

OK thanks for the help.
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January 4, 2014 7:41:56 PM

Let us know if you run into any problems and we will see if we can help.
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January 7, 2014 6:22:15 PM

Just got the drive and installing it this weekend. One last question though. I don't have to format the new drive right? I think that i what I was reading.
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a c 159 G Storage
January 8, 2014 2:50:12 PM

When you perform the clone it should take care of all that, if you wish you can quick format the drive, but it should not be needed.
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