system build help (first time builder)

yamato-no-orochi

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ok im wanting a computer to use as a gaming, youtube, and to use as a multi media center example copying dvd's on to a HDD and watching from there
planning to purchease it in a month or two (saving money)
budget is 2500 but can go as high as 2750 (specific number right)
peripherals: no monitors (will buy before/after or use the old crt ones in my house, then a mouse,keyboard,speakers and a capture card (internal or external doesnt matter)
case: and mid to full atx tower is good
overclocking: probably not for like 3 years
gpu: anything above a gtx 670 or radeon equivalent

as for ordering i live in canada so amazon,new egg and memory express only plz
thanks in advance
 
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what games at what resolutions? how many movies at what bit rate (file sizes) ?

thats a substantial budget even if .94cad = 1usd and if cad prices are higher for parts.

need to give us a little more info on what you want.

you could get what you want done for $1500 +/- easy likely.
 

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($153.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($548.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($97.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($58.23 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($93.88 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1622.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-03 13:13 EST-0500)
 

Computer__GUY

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Wow that was a fun build!

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($178.18 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V+200 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card ($1009.50 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case ($172.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2334.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-03 13:21 EST-0500)
 

EcoMCG

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Made it cheaper but it's a solid build imo.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2uYq4
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2uYq4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2uYq4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($73.50 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($349.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($349.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($81.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2005.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-03 13:18 EST-0500)
 

yamato-no-orochi

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games would be anything from indie to a heavy modded skyrim that currently destroys my friends 580 (2-10 fps) so really and thing that suits my fancy
as for resolution for now 1920x1200
thinking of using 3 monitors eventually so that will make the resolution high but another tale for another day
 

yamato-no-orochi

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oh wow thats amazing every time i make a build like this it's normally in the 3-4 thousand range and you just made that under the 2500 range nice and thanks
 

EcoMCG

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For the build I posted you don't have to take the 2-way SLI just sayin.
 

EcoMCG

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No problem my friend! You also don't have to do the 2-way SLI if you want to. It's optional. :)

-Eco
 

yamato-no-orochi

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thanks for the suggestion ill keep taking some build idea and see witch has the best appeal to me :D
 

yamato-no-orochi

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ya im thinking in the direction of sli because im planning to try and make some youtube videos so the faster the redering the better XD
 

EcoMCG

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SLI is the best dude. Double the performance in rendering processing compressing and uploading videos. Happy gaming dude! And you can also add keyboard and mouse and the price will still be behind your budget! Glad I could help you!
Don't forget to choose the best solution ^_^! Happy gaming!

-Eco
 
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yamato-no-orochi

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XD ya my friend has a gtx 580 and he's modded his games to hell and back and not broken the thing but refuses sli XD also i apparently like your build so much subconsciously i hit the solve button without realizing it XD
 

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Haha XD! Glad I could help you dude. Happy gaming! -Eco :D
 

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SLI does not affect your ability to upload videos... Personally OP, SLI/Crossfire brings driver issues, heat, noise, game compatibility, micro-stuttering, and can often be more pain than it's worth. Unless you are gaming on multiple monitors, a single GPU will offer a better experience. You can afford a GTX 780 Ti, this is the best gaming card right now and I would choose it over an SLI setup. If you really want to enhance your video editing experience, go with an i7-4930K.
 

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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2uZSv
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2uZSv/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2uZSv/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($73.50 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($157.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card ($998.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($81.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2302.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-03 14:04 EST-0500)

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the problem with sli/crossfire is that its awesome when it works but when it doesnt... performance takes a major shit. not all programs and games suppport sli/cf very well.

for games and media an i7 is overkill. an i5 would be fine. the i7 would help with translating dvd to another file type though. the 4930k is too pricey for what it gives you. quad channel ram is also not much better. i should know, i run on triple channel and have seen the specs.

if 16gb ram is all you needed/wanted ( 8gb is fine for gaming but 16 wouldnt hurt considering your budget) then you could get the same quality or better for $24 less (just buy two 2x4gb 1866 cas9 sets on newegg.. the gskill ripjaws x has a deal for $68 each. eliminates future uprades for ram but 16 is going to be plenty anyways so no need.

you will want more hard drives if you have a decent sized collection. also keep in mind that the high capacity drives have a high failure rate compared with 1tb drives. you will want either a backup drive or run two in raid1. i have some high capacity drives and i dont trust them one bit without backup.

you will want a larger ssd drive as well. get a 250 or you will wish you did.

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with how everyone is really jumping on the build and giving builds left and right i think you are being pushed to much to decide on things right away.

i would take a step back and think about how the money could be spent wiser instead of just splurging.

just my 2 cents though. for your kind of budget there is quite a bit you could do.

your choice.
 

yamato-no-orochi

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ya the 780ti is more powerful sli might happen when i do some more research and the us to cad money differences is maybe 50$ more so thats not to big a deal.
and thanks for the input ill tweak the builds and research sli to see if there like major problems extreme example crash the computer
..... eather way thanks for the input
 

yamato-no-orochi

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going to take your revised build and tweak it (add monitor and stuff then ill post the final result :D)
 
cad to usd yes.... but remember that the ca dealers charge more for parts too or at least as far as i've seen from ncix CA vs USA.

and you might not have the same parts available to you as easily regardless of you being just over the border (well unless you wanted to pay the higher shipping fees)
 

yamato-no-orochi

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yay thats one thing i notice americans are lucky with computer parts there usually cheaper but i like using newegg and there's generallly little price difference but moneys always a problem with computers right XD
the enitial envestment is high the games dirt cheap XD (steam sales)
 

yamato-no-orochi

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ya if i buy a part and regret it i can always rma it or somethng
anyways thnks for the opinion and not being like half the internet and starting a flame war over someone else opinion XD