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January 4, 2014 1:27:13 PM

I have spent about 3 months researching for building a gaming rig. I have spent a lot of that time on these forums, so a lot of the parts that I have chosen come from things I have read on here. However, I am not totally sure if all of my parts are compatible with each other or the best for my budget or preference. I made a list using pc part picker, and the price is higher than i expected it to be. I'm looking for a 1000 - 1500 dollar build. Here is my part list:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vD9F

Please help me lower the price and maybe choose parts that would work better together. Thank you in advance for any help.

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January 4, 2014 1:31:51 PM

get gtx 760 or hd 7870 for gpu. get i5 4570 cpu. and for god sake why you choose a gpu that costs 400$??? you should do a beast computer under 1000$ and you spend to much on motherboard.
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January 4, 2014 1:35:28 PM

Tzn said:
get gtx 760 or hd 7870 for gpu. get i5 4570 cpu. and for god sake why you choose a gpu that costs 400$??? you should do a beast computer under 1000$


Why wouldn't it be better just to go with a different vendor of the r9 280x? And the i5 is more expensive, isn't it?
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January 4, 2014 1:42:56 PM

jtabb1256 said:
I have spent about 3 months researching for building a gaming rig. I have spent a lot of that time on these forums, so a lot of the parts that I have chosen come from things I have read on here. However, I am not totally sure if all of my parts are compatible with each other or the best for my budget or preference. I made a list using pc part picker, and the price is higher than i expected it to be. I'm looking for a 1000 - 1500 dollar build. Here is my part list:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vD9F

Please help me lower the price and maybe choose parts that would work better together. Thank you in advance for any help.


My 2 cents, that gpu get a gtx 770, cost a little less and will perform a little better. Just got my 770 for $349 plus $20 mail in rebate. The 280x is pretty comparable to a 7870 or 7950, and those cost about $200, that bitmining crap raised the 280x price by $100. So swap that out, 7870 good value save $100, 770 great performance save $50.

Otherwise build looks to be mid-high end build. I have same cpu clocked it to 4.8 ghz, acts as a beast for video rendering and such. that mouse I wouldn't get, not sure if mobo has Bluetooth or not, but get a good gaming mouse, even if not for gaming the mouse themselves are fantastic, I have Logitech g500s got for $30 and ill never go back.

But everything looks well, I have a corsair h55 water cooling loop on my chip, works very well, but your air cooler should do just fine, but if your spending that much on a mobo I guess you plan to overclock, and a budget cooler like the one you picked wont be able to cut it, so id recommend a h55 about $50, or get a better air cooler.
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January 4, 2014 1:43:14 PM

jtabb1256 said:
Tzn said:
get gtx 760 or hd 7870 for gpu. get i5 4570 cpu. and for god sake why you choose a gpu that costs 400$??? you should do a beast computer under 1000$


Why wouldn't it be better just to go with a different vendor of the r9 280x? And the i5 is more expensive, isn't it?


intel destroys amd on cpu field both performance and power consumption. get a i5 as for gpu get gtx 770 it consumes less power costs less and is better than R9280x heck you can even go 760 since it eats only 170w and is close to 770, your choice.
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January 4, 2014 1:49:42 PM

Dblkk said:
jtabb1256 said:
I have spent about 3 months researching for building a gaming rig. I have spent a lot of that time on these forums, so a lot of the parts that I have chosen come from things I have read on here. However, I am not totally sure if all of my parts are compatible with each other or the best for my budget or preference. I made a list using pc part picker, and the price is higher than i expected it to be. I'm looking for a 1000 - 1500 dollar build. Here is my part list:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vD9F

Please help me lower the price and maybe choose parts that would work better together. Thank you in advance for any help.


My 2 cents, that gpu get a gtx 770, cost a little less and will perform a little better. Just got my 770 for $349 plus $20 mail in rebate. The 280x is pretty comparable to a 7870 or 7950, and those cost about $200, that bitmining crap raised the 280x price by $100. So swap that out, 7870 good value save $100, 770 great performance save $50.

Otherwise build looks to be mid-high end build. I have same cpu clocked it to 4.8 ghz, acts as a beast for video rendering and such. that mouse I wouldn't get, not sure if mobo has Bluetooth or not, but get a good gaming mouse, even if not for gaming the mouse themselves are fantastic, I have Logitech g500s got for $30 and ill never go back.

But everything looks well, I have a corsair h55 water cooling loop on my chip, works very well, but your air cooler should do just fine, but if your spending that much on a mobo I guess you plan to overclock, and a budget cooler like the one you picked wont be able to cut it, so id recommend a h55 about $50, or get a better air cooler.


What would be a better air cooler? I did plan on overclocking it to around that speed. And that mouse was actually for a laptop that I have, but was planning on multitasking with it. You do bring a good point about it even having bluetooth. Is there an easy way to add the bluetooth ability if it doesn't have it? I guess if you say there is a good mouse out there for 30 dollars, I could get one. What do you think about the keyboard?

Also, is the 7950 better or worse than the 770?
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January 4, 2014 1:50:07 PM

are you going to be overclocking?
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January 4, 2014 1:52:57 PM

Tzn said:
jtabb1256 said:
Tzn said:
get gtx 760 or hd 7870 for gpu. get i5 4570 cpu. and for god sake why you choose a gpu that costs 400$??? you should do a beast computer under 1000$


Why wouldn't it be better just to go with a different vendor of the r9 280x? And the i5 is more expensive, isn't it?


intel destroys amd on cpu field both performance and power consumption. get a i5 as for gpu get gtx 770 it consumes less power costs less and is better than R9280x heck you can even go 760 since it eats only 170w and is close to 770, your choice.


Thank you for recommending another processor, but I think I will stick with the 8350. If i did go with Nvidia, I would go with at least the 770, but according to some other forums on here, the overclocked r9 280x can even outperform the 770. How much is the 770 or a card a step above it?

And is the i5 that you are talking about cheaper than the 8350?
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January 4, 2014 1:53:39 PM

messedupbanana said:
are you going to be overclocking?



Yes. And maybe the video card as well, if I change it with something else.
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January 4, 2014 1:56:54 PM

Do you think I should change the power supply as well? The only reason I got it was because it bundles with the case.

I also want to play War Thunder on movie settings with above 60 fps. and Battlefield 3 with ultra settings with 60 + fps.
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January 4, 2014 2:03:08 PM

jtabb1256 said:
Dblkk said:
jtabb1256 said:
I have spent about 3 months researching for building a gaming rig. I have spent a lot of that time on these forums, so a lot of the parts that I have chosen come from things I have read on here. However, I am not totally sure if all of my parts are compatible with each other or the best for my budget or preference. I made a list using pc part picker, and the price is higher than i expected it to be. I'm looking for a 1000 - 1500 dollar build. Here is my part list:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vD9F

Please help me lower the price and maybe choose parts that would work better together. Thank you in advance for any help.


My 2 cents, that gpu get a gtx 770, cost a little less and will perform a little better. Just got my 770 for $349 plus $20 mail in rebate. The 280x is pretty comparable to a 7870 or 7950, and those cost about $200, that bitmining crap raised the 280x price by $100. So swap that out, 7870 good value save $100, 770 great performance save $50.

Otherwise build looks to be mid-high end build. I have same cpu clocked it to 4.8 ghz, acts as a beast for video rendering and such. that mouse I wouldn't get, not sure if mobo has Bluetooth or not, but get a good gaming mouse, even if not for gaming the mouse themselves are fantastic, I have Logitech g500s got for $30 and ill never go back.

But everything looks well, I have a corsair h55 water cooling loop on my chip, works very well, but your air cooler should do just fine, but if your spending that much on a mobo I guess you plan to overclock, and a budget cooler like the one you picked wont be able to cut it, so id recommend a h55 about $50, or get a better air cooler.


What would be a better air cooler? I did plan on overclocking it to around that speed. And that mouse was actually for a laptop that I have, but was planning on multitasking with it. You do bring a good point about it even having bluetooth. Is there an easy way to add the bluetooth ability if it doesn't have it? I guess if you say there is a good mouse out there for 30 dollars, I could get one. What do you think about the keyboard?


jtabb1256 said:
messedupbanana said:
are you going to be overclocking?



Yes. And maybe the video card as well, if I change it with something else.

If you go with water cooling than i suggest the h80i and for air cooling than the cooler master hyper tx3 ( although im not sure how it would work with a heavy overclock) also get cheaper gpu like a 770. I think newegg has a really cheap msi one available.
Also the cm storm recon is a good mouse for $35 and the keyboard looks good (unless you want a mechanical)
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January 4, 2014 2:11:02 PM

messedupbanana said:
jtabb1256 said:
Dblkk said:
jtabb1256 said:
I have spent about 3 months researching for building a gaming rig. I have spent a lot of that time on these forums, so a lot of the parts that I have chosen come from things I have read on here. However, I am not totally sure if all of my parts are compatible with each other or the best for my budget or preference. I made a list using pc part picker, and the price is higher than i expected it to be. I'm looking for a 1000 - 1500 dollar build. Here is my part list:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vD9F

Please help me lower the price and maybe choose parts that would work better together. Thank you in advance for any help.


My 2 cents, that gpu get a gtx 770, cost a little less and will perform a little better. Just got my 770 for $349 plus $20 mail in rebate. The 280x is pretty comparable to a 7870 or 7950, and those cost about $200, that bitmining crap raised the 280x price by $100. So swap that out, 7870 good value save $100, 770 great performance save $50.

Otherwise build looks to be mid-high end build. I have same cpu clocked it to 4.8 ghz, acts as a beast for video rendering and such. that mouse I wouldn't get, not sure if mobo has Bluetooth or not, but get a good gaming mouse, even if not for gaming the mouse themselves are fantastic, I have Logitech g500s got for $30 and ill never go back.

But everything looks well, I have a corsair h55 water cooling loop on my chip, works very well, but your air cooler should do just fine, but if your spending that much on a mobo I guess you plan to overclock, and a budget cooler like the one you picked wont be able to cut it, so id recommend a h55 about $50, or get a better air cooler.


What would be a better air cooler? I did plan on overclocking it to around that speed. And that mouse was actually for a laptop that I have, but was planning on multitasking with it. You do bring a good point about it even having bluetooth. Is there an easy way to add the bluetooth ability if it doesn't have it? I guess if you say there is a good mouse out there for 30 dollars, I could get one. What do you think about the keyboard?


jtabb1256 said:
messedupbanana said:
are you going to be overclocking?



Yes. And maybe the video card as well, if I change it with something else.

If you go with water cooling than i suggest the h80i and for air cooling than the cooler master hyper tx3 ( although im not sure how it would work with a heavy overclock) also get cheaper gpu like a 770. I think newegg has a really cheap msi one available.
Also the cm storm recon is a good mouse for $35 and the keyboard looks good (unless you want a mechanical)


If I used that gpu, would I be able to play on ultra settings with 60 + fps? Thank you for the recommendations. How would a mechanical keyboard differ in feel?
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January 4, 2014 2:12:27 PM

jtabb1256 said:


If you go with water cooling than i suggest the h80i and for air cooling than the cooler master hyper tx3 ( although im not sure how it would work with a heavy overclock) also get cheaper gpu like a 770. I think newegg has a really cheap msi one available.
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If I used that gpu, would I be able to play on ultra settings with 60 + fps?[/quotemsg] it depends on what you are playing but i think it would be possible with most games at slightly higher than 1080p resolution.

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January 4, 2014 2:16:47 PM

messedupbanana said:


If you go with water cooling than i suggest the h80i and for air cooling than the cooler master hyper tx3 ( although im not sure how it would work with a heavy overclock) also get cheaper gpu like a 770. I think newegg has a really cheap msi one available.


jtabb1256 said:

If I used that gpu, would I be able to play on ultra settings with 60 + fps?


messedupbanana said:

it depends on what you are playing but i think it would be possible with most games at slightly higher than 1080p resolution.




I'm thinking War Thunder in movie settings, BF3 in Ultra, BF4 in High. And all with 60 + fps at 1080p on one monitor.
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January 4, 2014 2:16:51 PM

jtabb1256 said:
messedupbanana said:
jtabb1256 said:
Dblkk said:
jtabb1256 said:
I have spent about 3 months researching for building a gaming rig. I have spent a lot of that time on these forums, so a lot of the parts that I have chosen come from things I have read on here. However, I am not totally sure if all of my parts are compatible with each other or the best for my budget or preference. I made a list using pc part picker, and the price is higher than i expected it to be. I'm looking for a 1000 - 1500 dollar build. Here is my part list:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vD9F

Please help me lower the price and maybe choose parts that would work better together. Thank you in advance for any help.


My 2 cents, that gpu get a gtx 770, cost a little less and will perform a little better. Just got my 770 for $349 plus $20 mail in rebate. The 280x is pretty comparable to a 7870 or 7950, and those cost about $200, that bitmining crap raised the 280x price by $100. So swap that out, 7870 good value save $100, 770 great performance save $50.

Otherwise build looks to be mid-high end build. I have same cpu clocked it to 4.8 ghz, acts as a beast for video rendering and such. that mouse I wouldn't get, not sure if mobo has Bluetooth or not, but get a good gaming mouse, even if not for gaming the mouse themselves are fantastic, I have Logitech g500s got for $30 and ill never go back.

But everything looks well, I have a corsair h55 water cooling loop on my chip, works very well, but your air cooler should do just fine, but if your spending that much on a mobo I guess you plan to overclock, and a budget cooler like the one you picked wont be able to cut it, so id recommend a h55 about $50, or get a better air cooler.


What would be a better air cooler? I did plan on overclocking it to around that speed. And that mouse was actually for a laptop that I have, but was planning on multitasking with it. You do bring a good point about it even having bluetooth. Is there an easy way to add the bluetooth ability if it doesn't have it? I guess if you say there is a good mouse out there for 30 dollars, I could get one. What do you think about the keyboard?


jtabb1256 said:
messedupbanana said:
are you going to be overclocking?



Yes. And maybe the video card as well, if I change it with something else.

If you go with water cooling than i suggest the h80i and for air cooling than the cooler master hyper tx3 ( although im not sure how it would work with a heavy overclock) also get cheaper gpu like a 770. I think newegg has a really cheap msi one available.
Also the cm storm recon is a good mouse for $35 and the keyboard looks good (unless you want a mechanical)


If I used that gpu, would I be able to play on ultra settings with 60 + fps? Thank you for the recommendations. How would a mechanical keyboard differ in feel?

A mechanical keyboard has a better build quality but there are different switches or feelings of the keys depending on what you prefer. watch some videos or buy a sampler for the switches like this onehttp://
although it is pricey
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January 4, 2014 2:19:12 PM

jtabb1256 said:
messedupbanana said:


If you go with water cooling than i suggest the h80i and for air cooling than the cooler master hyper tx3 ( although im not sure how it would work with a heavy overclock) also get cheaper gpu like a 770. I think newegg has a really cheap msi one available.


jtabb1256 said:

If I used that gpu, would I be able to play on ultra settings with 60 + fps?


messedupbanana said:

it depends on what you are playing but i think it would be possible with most games at slightly higher than 1080p resolution.




I'm thinking War Thunder in movie settings, BF3 in Ultra, BF4 in High. And all with 60 + fps at 1080p on one monitor.


I think it would work (or at least stay in the 50fps range) I suggest you go look at some benchmarks for the card to see what results were on other games
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January 4, 2014 2:23:48 PM

messedupbanana said:


A mechanical keyboard has a better build quality but there are different switches or feelings of the keys depending on what you prefer. watch some videos or buy a sampler for the switches like this onehttp://
although it is pricey


I probably won't go mechanical due to price then.
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January 4, 2014 3:17:53 PM

Based on what I have read, the r9 280x can beat the 770 at higher than 1080p resolutions due to its extra 1gb of vram. However, they are about the same at 1080p. This does of course depend on what vendor and how overclocked the cards are. If you stick to msi, the r9 280x costs 5 dollars more than the 770.

Also, according to:

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1897&gid2=...

the r9 280x toxic is close in performance to the msi lightning gtx 780. The 780 costs about 100 dollars more as well, so I think I will stick with my graphics card. Do you think the motherboard and other parts will fit in that case nicely?

Also, is my power supply too powerful? Should I lower the voltage and go with a gold standard? Or just lower the voltage and save money?
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January 4, 2014 3:40:33 PM

Tzn said:
jtabb1256 said:
Tzn said:
get gtx 760 or hd 7870 for gpu. get i5 4570 cpu. and for god sake why you choose a gpu that costs 400$??? you should do a beast computer under 1000$


Why wouldn't it be better just to go with a different vendor of the r9 280x? And the i5 is more expensive, isn't it?


intel destroys amd on cpu field both performance and power consumption. get a i5 as for gpu get gtx 770 it consumes less power costs less and is better than R9280x heck you can even go 760 since it eats only 170w and is close to 770, your choice.


Yes depending which games the r9 280x can be better, but the extra vram is only going to benefit on multi gpu/monitor settings. the 770 will also run cheaper, give you the same/better/worse by slight margins. the memory is clocked way faster on the 770. but im not going to fight, the 770 is just the best price/performance you can get in that range, check out the articles here on toms.

As for i5, yes its better, but gaming wise, not so much. it goes neck and neck, blow for blow, but yes costs more. I'm not going to start an amd vs intel fight/argument here. I myself have the fx 8350 clocked at 4.8ghz and im sure that equals the i5, but am considering a intel i7 4770k switch soon. games will start to use more cores so the amd might have an edge to get back at the fact that the intels cores are stronger. but just get whatever you can afford.

As for water, yes the h80i is nice, the h55 is cheaper, and my amd fx 8350 at 4.8 ghz is at 24 degrees celcuis idle, and never hits over 50's on full load, so that's pretty damn good. But I also have the corsair 540 case with exceptional airflow.
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January 4, 2014 3:49:15 PM

Dblkk said:
Tzn said:
jtabb1256 said:
Tzn said:
get gtx 760 or hd 7870 for gpu. get i5 4570 cpu. and for god sake why you choose a gpu that costs 400$??? you should do a beast computer under 1000$


Why wouldn't it be better just to go with a different vendor of the r9 280x? And the i5 is more expensive, isn't it?


intel destroys amd on cpu field both performance and power consumption. get a i5 as for gpu get gtx 770 it consumes less power costs less and is better than R9280x heck you can even go 760 since it eats only 170w and is close to 770, your choice.


Yes depending which games the r9 280x can be better, but the extra vram is only going to benefit on multi gpu/monitor settings. the 770 will also run cheaper, give you the same/better/worse by slight margins. the memory is clocked way faster on the 770. but im not going to fight, the 770 is just the best price/performance you can get in that range, check out the articles here on toms.

As for i5, yes its better, but gaming wise, not so much. it goes neck and neck, blow for blow, but yes costs more. I'm not going to start an amd vs intel fight/argument here. I myself have the fx 8350 clocked at 4.8ghz and im sure that equals the i5, but am considering a intel i7 4770k switch soon. games will start to use more cores so the amd might have an edge to get back at the fact that the intels cores are stronger. but just get whatever you can afford.

As for water, yes the h80i is nice, the h55 is cheaper, and my amd fx 8350 at 4.8 ghz is at 24 degrees celcuis idle, and never hits over 50's on full load, so that's pretty damn good. But I also have the corsair 540 case with exceptional airflow.


updated link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vHUy

If I'm going to spend this much, then I may as well get parts that will work in the future. I got the h100i because a lot of reviews said bad things about the other corsair water cooled. For the processor, I think the overclocked 8350 will be good enough. For the graphics, I'm still not sure. If I go with the 280x, I may get the asus or msi and overclock it higher to the toxic's speed myself. Now my only problem is if all of this can fit and work with my case. I think the h100i has a 240mm rad. and I don't know how the motherboard, etc will fit. Any suggestions? And any suggestions to trim down the price?

What cooler do you use?
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January 4, 2014 5:05:03 PM

jtabb1256 said:
Dblkk said:
Tzn said:
jtabb1256 said:
Tzn said:
get gtx 760 or hd 7870 for gpu. get i5 4570 cpu. and for god sake why you choose a gpu that costs 400$??? you should do a beast computer under 1000$


Why wouldn't it be better just to go with a different vendor of the r9 280x? And the i5 is more expensive, isn't it?


intel destroys amd on cpu field both performance and power consumption. get a i5 as for gpu get gtx 770 it consumes less power costs less and is better than R9280x heck you can even go 760 since it eats only 170w and is close to 770, your choice.


Yes depending which games the r9 280x can be better, but the extra vram is only going to benefit on multi gpu/monitor settings. the 770 will also run cheaper, give you the same/better/worse by slight margins. the memory is clocked way faster on the 770. but im not going to fight, the 770 is just the best price/performance you can get in that range, check out the articles here on toms.

As for i5, yes its better, but gaming wise, not so much. it goes neck and neck, blow for blow, but yes costs more. I'm not going to start an amd vs intel fight/argument here. I myself have the fx 8350 clocked at 4.8ghz and im sure that equals the i5, but am considering a intel i7 4770k switch soon. games will start to use more cores so the amd might have an edge to get back at the fact that the intels cores are stronger. but just get whatever you can afford.

As for water, yes the h80i is nice, the h55 is cheaper, and my amd fx 8350 at 4.8 ghz is at 24 degrees celcuis idle, and never hits over 50's on full load, so that's pretty damn good. But I also have the corsair 540 case with exceptional airflow.


updated link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vHUy

If I'm going to spend this much, then I may as well get parts that will work in the future. I got the h100i because a lot of reviews said bad things about the other corsair water cooled. For the processor, I think the overclocked 8350 will be good enough. For the graphics, I'm still not sure. If I go with the 280x, I may get the asus or msi and overclock it higher to the toxic's speed myself. Now my only problem is if all of this can fit and work with my case. I think the h100i has a 240mm rad. and I don't know how the motherboard, etc will fit. Any suggestions? And any suggestions to trim down the price?

What cooler do you use?


Price wise, maybe get a 7870 and save a few hundred, big performance drop, but still playable on high most games. As far as everything fitting, not to sure on case, seems a little small but should fit everything only conserned on mobo being in the way of a 240" rad on top. Not sure, but otherwise good specs, anything cheaper will drop performance and if that's what you need to do as budget wise, itd be gpu or cpu or mobo. If you want to keep cpu gpu then mobo can be lowered to around $120's by getting the asus pro board, cpu can be dropped to a 6300, and gpu can be dropped to 7870. of those three id drop mobo down a notch, only features and oc will take a hit, cpu or gpu will decrease gaming performance.
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January 4, 2014 5:16:19 PM

Get an asus saber booth z87 cause the only thing making the formula better is because of the audio chip it has.
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January 4, 2014 5:47:31 PM

Dblkk said:
jtabb1256 said:
Dblkk said:
Tzn said:
jtabb1256 said:
Tzn said:
get gtx 760 or hd 7870 for gpu. get i5 4570 cpu. and for god sake why you choose a gpu that costs 400$??? you should do a beast computer under 1000$


Why wouldn't it be better just to go with a different vendor of the r9 280x? And the i5 is more expensive, isn't it?


intel destroys amd on cpu field both performance and power consumption. get a i5 as for gpu get gtx 770 it consumes less power costs less and is better than R9280x heck you can even go 760 since it eats only 170w and is close to 770, your choice.


Yes depending which games the r9 280x can be better, but the extra vram is only going to benefit on multi gpu/monitor settings. the 770 will also run cheaper, give you the same/better/worse by slight margins. the memory is clocked way faster on the 770. but im not going to fight, the 770 is just the best price/performance you can get in that range, check out the articles here on toms.

As for i5, yes its better, but gaming wise, not so much. it goes neck and neck, blow for blow, but yes costs more. I'm not going to start an amd vs intel fight/argument here. I myself have the fx 8350 clocked at 4.8ghz and im sure that equals the i5, but am considering a intel i7 4770k switch soon. games will start to use more cores so the amd might have an edge to get back at the fact that the intels cores are stronger. but just get whatever you can afford.

As for water, yes the h80i is nice, the h55 is cheaper, and my amd fx 8350 at 4.8 ghz is at 24 degrees celcuis idle, and never hits over 50's on full load, so that's pretty damn good. But I also have the corsair 540 case with exceptional airflow.


updated link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vHUy

If I'm going to spend this much, then I may as well get parts that will work in the future. I got the h100i because a lot of reviews said bad things about the other corsair water cooled. For the processor, I think the overclocked 8350 will be good enough. For the graphics, I'm still not sure. If I go with the 280x, I may get the asus or msi and overclock it higher to the toxic's speed myself. Now my only problem is if all of this can fit and work with my case. I think the h100i has a 240mm rad. and I don't know how the motherboard, etc will fit. Any suggestions? And any suggestions to trim down the price?

What cooler do you use?


Price wise, maybe get a 7870 and save a few hundred, big performance drop, but still playable on high most games. As far as everything fitting, not to sure on case, seems a little small but should fit everything only conserned on mobo being in the way of a 240" rad on top. Not sure, but otherwise good specs, anything cheaper will drop performance and if that's what you need to do as budget wise, itd be gpu or cpu or mobo. If you want to keep cpu gpu then mobo can be lowered to around $120's by getting the asus pro board, cpu can be dropped to a 6300, and gpu can be dropped to 7870. of those three id drop mobo down a notch, only features and oc will take a hit, cpu or gpu will decrease gaming performance.


Ok. Thank you. Is there a case that you would recommend?
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Get an asus saber booth z87 cause the only thing making the formula better is because of the audio chip it has.


I'll consider that. Thank you.
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January 5, 2014 10:29:50 AM

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get gtx 760 or hd 7870 for gpu. get i5 4570 cpu. and for god sake why you choose a gpu that costs 400$??? you should do a beast computer under 1000$


Why wouldn't it be better just to go with a different vendor of the r9 280x? And the i5 is more expensive, isn't it?


intel destroys amd on cpu field both performance and power consumption. get a i5 as for gpu get gtx 770 it consumes less power costs less and is better than R9280x heck you can even go 760 since it eats only 170w and is close to 770, your choice.


Yes depending which games the r9 280x can be better, but the extra vram is only going to benefit on multi gpu/monitor settings. the 770 will also run cheaper, give you the same/better/worse by slight margins. the memory is clocked way faster on the 770. but im not going to fight, the 770 is just the best price/performance you can get in that range, check out the articles here on toms.

As for i5, yes its better, but gaming wise, not so much. it goes neck and neck, blow for blow, but yes costs more. I'm not going to start an amd vs intel fight/argument here. I myself have the fx 8350 clocked at 4.8ghz and im sure that equals the i5, but am considering a intel i7 4770k switch soon. games will start to use more cores so the amd might have an edge to get back at the fact that the intels cores are stronger. but just get whatever you can afford.

As for water, yes the h80i is nice, the h55 is cheaper, and my amd fx 8350 at 4.8 ghz is at 24 degrees celcuis idle, and never hits over 50's on full load, so that's pretty damn good. But I also have the corsair 540 case with exceptional airflow.


updated link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vHUy

If I'm going to spend this much, then I may as well get parts that will work in the future. I got the h100i because a lot of reviews said bad things about the other corsair water cooled. For the processor, I think the overclocked 8350 will be good enough. For the graphics, I'm still not sure. If I go with the 280x, I may get the asus or msi and overclock it higher to the toxic's speed myself. Now my only problem is if all of this can fit and work with my case. I think the h100i has a 240mm rad. and I don't know how the motherboard, etc will fit. Any suggestions? And any suggestions to trim down the price?

What cooler do you use?


Price wise, maybe get a 7870 and save a few hundred, big performance drop, but still playable on high most games. As far as everything fitting, not to sure on case, seems a little small but should fit everything only conserned on mobo being in the way of a 240" rad on top. Not sure, but otherwise good specs, anything cheaper will drop performance and if that's what you need to do as budget wise, itd be gpu or cpu or mobo. If you want to keep cpu gpu then mobo can be lowered to around $120's by getting the asus pro board, cpu can be dropped to a 6300, and gpu can be dropped to 7870. of those three id drop mobo down a notch, only features and oc will take a hit, cpu or gpu will decrease gaming performance.


Ok. Thank you. Is there a case that you would recommend?


Case wise is really hard to recommend as their are hundreds, and ive only used two. I'd suggest, if you want to stay mid size, that you search forums for people's bulding using that case and having that cpu cooler/rad. Otherwise most full size should fit not problem. I know most corsair cases should say if they fit their coolers, which is nice. I have the corsair 540 case and love it, but it isn't a typical case. Its a full size, but short and double wide, have fun into problems on where to put it as the place id want it doesn't work. But just search forums or pc partpicker completed builds, or overclock.net I think it is, as that is a 240mm rad and that site has custom builds with custom cooling kits on their cases, if a typical 240mm custom or corsair fits in a case on their, it should fit yours. As a lot of custom liquid kits are double thick rads and if those fit corsair uses the traditional thickness so that should fit without a problem.
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January 5, 2014 10:31:42 AM

jtabb1256 said:
Sam55555 said:
Get an asus saber booth z87 cause the only thing making the formula better is because of the audio chip it has.


I'll consider that. Thank you.


I agree on that, but unless your trying to hit 5ghz plus, which youd need a custom liquid kit $500+ to reach that and keep it cool, spending $180 on a board is kind of ridiculous. the Asus pro board after rebate I got for $120, $140-150 normal price, and has all the goodies of the sabertooth minus I think 2 sat ports. But my chip overclocked to 4.8 easy on that board and im limited by thermals not the board.
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January 6, 2014 6:51:38 PM

Thank you all for your answers. There were a lot of great ideas and answers. I think to close this thread, I need to pick a "best answer", so I'm just choosing the last one. I put best answer in quotation marks because there were so many good answers that there really wasn't a "best" answer.
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