Overclocking fx8350 from 4.0 to 4.5 worth ?

dsr07mm · Jan 4, 2014

I'm asking because I have Evo212 but with only one fan. If I buy second one and I buy bigger case with one more fan on case and I'm able to OC this on 4.5 is it really worth ? How much performance boost we are talking about here ?

Dolan100 · Jan 4, 2014

Honestly if you feel its worth extra time and hassle then yes but when overclocking it doesn't matter if you have an aftermarket heatsink or not you need great airflow in your case to get full performance out of your PC and to be honest 4.0ghz is pretty good and its only if you really want to play extremely demanding games at full settings that you require to overclock your CPU.

dsr07mm · Jan 4, 2014

Mostly asking because of DayZ and Rust.

Dolan100 · Jan 4, 2014

I'm pretty sure 4.0MHz is ok for those games

HoboX · Jan 4, 2014

Every little bit helps, I say if you can do it than go for it ^_^. I overclocked mine with the same cooler to 4.5 but it did take some time (as all overclocks do) just make sure you have enough time on your hands. Id recommend giving this video a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk .

Calculatron · Jan 4, 2014

Adding additional fans to a heatsink offers very little performance gain. The rule of thumb is 2C.

As long as you have a case that has a 120mm intake, and an 120mm exhaust, you should be good.

dsr07mm · Jan 5, 2014

I'm with really crappy case right now without any fans beside one on evo212. I'm ordering tomorrow Thermaltake V3 Black Edition (50$) which is much better and I will install another fan on evo212, one is already in case and I will buy another one. I will see how to place everything for better cooling system and hopefully I will achieve 4.4 - 4.5 with good voltage.

Calculatron · Jan 5, 2014

Just have airflow inside the case will work wonders. If the fan doesn't identically match what is on the EVO, I would stick it somewhere else on the case.

dsr07mm · Jan 5, 2014

I will place another one 90mm on Evo and couple 120mm on case. To be honest on older PC's I never had good airflow so I will enjoy this time

CooLWoLF · Jan 5, 2014

Its definitely worth it. If you can, go for it!

dsr07mm · Jan 6, 2014

Maybe I can get some better answer here since I have this thread up and running.

I wanted to buy Thermaltake V3 Black Edition case but it's out of stock and I need to complete this in next 2 days since I will need to continue my constant work on PC so I went for this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1N8-0022-00001

And I currently have this crapp

http://www.itsvet.com/img/obj/comp_comp_case/000/000/001/724/bigimg.jpg

To be honest I'm worried about my Evo212. On this current "Industrial Gemini" he is literally touching my side case and maybe pushing side for 1mm which is really terrible but I measured my dimensions of case and it's 18.4cm.

On Thermaltake Versa G2 which I'm getting in 2 days according to newegg dimensions are 429 x 196 x 481 (42.9 x 19.6 x 48.1) which is bigger by 1.2 cm. Will my Evo 212 block space for cooler on my case or it's going to be fine ? And are those dimensions actually right ? Hopefully that case is fine for current configuration with approx 3 case coolers and maybe for later upgrade.

UPDATE: I found this picture and it's giving me nice example of what should I plan to do.

http://www.thermaltake.com/db/products/case/versaG2/03.jpg

Since I'm getting 1 cooler with case I will place that one on number 1 spot. They are out of stock for Arctic F12, 120mm coolers but I will in like 10 days get 3 more for number 5, number 3 and number 2 but only one cooler at spot 2, one closer to the front side. Is that good enough ?

Calculatron · Jan 6, 2014

Having fans in spots 1, 2, and 3 will be more than enough.

Sadly, though, that Thermaltake Versa G2 has a 155mm CPU height limitation; the Hyper 212 EVO will be about 4mm too tall.

dsr07mm · Jan 6, 2014

My friends have same case with same Evo212 installed with no problems. I'm not sure how the hell I'm fitting this Evo212 in current case which is smaller. By all dimensions which I measured it will fit.

Calculatron · Jan 6, 2014

If you say so; I was just going by the listed maximum cooler clearance.

Cheers!

dsr07mm · Jan 6, 2014

I agree and thank you for pointing that out. I'm worried about space and will I have enough space for coolers at number 3 spot but cooler on that picture is thermaltake frio advance.

http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_Specification.aspx?id=C_00001822

Thermaltake Frio Advance - 130.6 x 122 x 159.2
Cooler Master Evo 212 -120 x 80 x 159 mm

According to this it is fine.

jaguarskx · Jan 6, 2014

Performance increase depends on the specific game.

Below is ARMA 3. As you can see, there is a 4FPS gain in performance with a GTX Titan. Going from 4.0GHz to 4.5GHz (12.5% OC), that gives you a little over an 8% increase in performance. Not bad.

http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/page5.html

However, for a game like Metro Last Light the gain in performance would be less; only 3%.

http://www.techspot.com/review/670-metro-last-light-performance/page6.html

Hitman: Absolution is kinda similar to Metro Last Light from a system requirement / performance point of view. The 12.5% OC will only give you a 4% increase in performance.

http://www.techspot.com/review/608-hitman-absolution-performance-benchmarks/page6.html

SimCity 5 is a very CPU demanding game, therefore it benefits a lot from overclocking. The below chart shows that going from 4.0GHz to 4.5GHz will give you a 4 FPS performance increase. That is a little over 11% performance gain with a 12.5% overclock.

http://www.techspot.com/review/648-simcity-performance/page4.html

Last is BioShock. This games is not very CPU dependent at all making the playable by a lot of people (from a CPU standpoint). You are basically getting an extra 1.5% performance. What is interesting is that the charge also includes "Frame Time". Unfortunately, they don't really bother telling you what that means.

Frame Time is basically how long each frame is displayed on the screen in milliseconds (ms). It looks strange because the frame time increases when the FPS increase. It should actually decrease, not increase since the more frames are displayed per second the less time each frame should be displayed on the screen.

http://www.techspot.com/review/655-bioshock-infinite-performance/page5.html

dsr07mm · Jan 6, 2014

So basically we are talking about 2-5fps improvement with 500mhz over default clock. I dont think that is it worth though

dsr07mm · Jan 7, 2014

Anyways I went for this and looks like that I have one big adventure in front of me.

So as It's in my description I have Asus M5 A97 R2.0 which is not the best mobo for overclocking but it should be possible. I'm afraid of my PSU since it's Raidmax 635w 80% bronze (if that actually means something).

I'm able after couple hours of testing to run on 4.5 with 1.452 voltage. Issue is that when I start Prime my cores are stopping and after third I'm getting restart with temperature near 65 (on cores), while after 1 hour of DayZ and one hour of Battlefield 4 cpu isnt going over 46c. Idle is 23c while I'm working with usuall softwares can jump until 28/30c.

My question is next. Can any component be in danger if I dont push over 1.452 and I dont run Prime test ? Beside restarts can that actually hurts to CPU or my motherboard ? Voltages seems fine so I doubt that PSU can die due to that, after all 1.452 isnt really crazy voltage.

Overclocking fx8350 from 4.0 to 4.5 worth ?

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