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January 5, 2014 9:48:25 AM

Hi Everyone!

So I'm a complete novice and am trying to build my first gaming PC (pray for me...), and I'm wondering if this rig works and if it will cater to a variety of games on high settings (fps, rpg, etc.). It should be noted that I would like to save money where I can, but I don't mind spending $1000 or a bit over if this investment will last me for the next "generation." As I'm a college student, I'm hoping this will also assist me in basic school functions (papers, reports, etc.), essentially that it can be a "dual-investment since my laptop is nearing the six year mark.

CPU: i5-4670k

GPU: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card (in the future I may throw in another card if $ allows)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-DH3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard

Memory: G. Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

OS: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter

Case: (would love a suggestion. Don't care about aesthetics, just want one that's reliable. From what I've researched, a mid tower should be fine. I just want it to have room for my components and the possibility of future additions that I'll list below).

Peripherals: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor, Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard, Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse, (headset TBD).


Just a few side questions. As I've said before, when I have the $ I'd eventually like to add another graphics card. Also, does this build need a CPU cooler or SSD? Are these items that I can add later like the additional graphics card? If so, can anyone recommend one of these that's compatible and will operate well with a ~$1000 rig? Is the power supply enough? Also, as I'm not adding in an optical drive, are there other ways I can install the OS? Oh, and eventually after I do some research I may try overclocking.

Again, I'm a complete novice to this, so any advice or help is GREATLY appreciated.

~Thanks!





January 5, 2014 10:00:59 AM

pretty good build, but correct me if im wrong but the parts you have listed above are already near the 1000$ mark? with the i5 4670k which is an unlocked cpu, it is meant for overclocking so since you mentioned that you are looking to overclock in the future you should definitely look into a cooler, either a good air cooler like the 212 evo or water cooled h50/55i which should keep the temps nice and low. but if you are going to be overclocking a lot like up to 4.4-4.5 ghz then look into a h80i as the previous two coolers mentioned will not suffice.

as for installilng windows you can do it without a disk, youll need to download the program (prefereably windows 8.1 64-bit) and load it onto a virtual drive like daemon tools etc. as long as you have an original windows key you should be fine.

also before you go buying another graphics card, buy an SSD as the difference between that and a normal HDD is incredibly better and faster. trust me you will notice a huge difference. i would suggest installing windows onto the ssd and all other programs on your hdd because it will make your system so much faster, your computer will boot much faster and you will see much better performance in games (considering you have all razer peripherals lol)
suggestion for the ssd - Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB

Case: take a look at Antec, they make nice quiet towers, or even cooler master

Antec P100 Performance One Series Quiet Computing Mid ATX Tower
Cooler Master HAF 912 Combat
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January 5, 2014 10:07:02 AM

Ok, this is what we have so far.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($339.99 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($42.36 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1335.24
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-05 13:06 EST-0500)

I just wanted to show what you have, and what it costs. I'll post another build here in a sec.

:edit:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($339.99 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($42.36 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($10.29 @ B&H)
Mouse: Logitech G400s Wired Optical Mouse ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1336.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-05 13:13 EST-0500)

Same overall cost, however, I've included a Case, Cpu cooler, and optical drive.

Changes are: Cheaper motherboard that will still provide plenty of features and overclocking support. I dropped the 2133mhz Ram because either you were spending a bit more for it, or you were getting a slower CAS latency set. This set is 1866mhz @ CAS 9, which is the slowest I'd ever recommend for these speeds. Dropped down from the WD Black HDD, to a Seagate Barracuda. You won't notice any difference in speed between the two, and you can save 25 dollars.

Spent more on the Psu, simply because the CX line is more of a budget solution. With these components, you want it powered by something more reliable. It's also 850w simple in case you want to crossfire in the future, this Psu can handle that and an overclock. Added a great budget cooler that can support a mild to medium overclock(4.2-4-5 maybe), anything higher and you'll need a better cooler. Switched out video cards for one that is the same price, but higher clocked out of the box.

I ditched the Razer keyboard because if you aren't buying a mechanical keyboard, I don't see the reason to spend 50 dollars on one. I also ditched the Razer mouse because I've owned two different Razer mice, and they have both failed on me for the exact same reason. A single left button mouse click double-clicks, which is extremely annoying in game, and even browsing the interwebs. This Logitech is a nice model, for a good price. However, mouse/keyboard are mainly a matter of personal preference, so really up to you. Just my opinion.
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January 5, 2014 10:52:28 AM

Swordkd made pretty much all the changes that will in fact give you a better system. I wasn't a big fan of the original psu as well, corsair, seasonic or xfx are the best for sure.
You're sure the 212 evo will keep the CPU cool enough even when overclocked at 4.5 ghz?

As for the case as long as you stick within that price range, you can find one that pleases your eye most, the corsair is a good one though. And the gskill ram is great for sure.

I'd have to find the article, but I read that Windows 8 is better for gaming. I'm not exactly sure what it is now that actually makes it better as I read this a while back.
Edit : Toms has an article about the comparison and there isn't really an advantage using Windows 8, can't paste the link cuz I'm on my phone posting this lol

Agreed that the mouse and keyboard are up to your personal preference. I personally have a razer blackwidow backlit keyboard and a rat 7 mouse.

Koodos to Swordkd for the recommendations. I doubt you could get the build to be cheaper without losing performance.
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January 9, 2014 1:41:21 PM

Swordkd said:
Ok, this is what we have so far.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($339.99 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($42.36 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1335.24
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-05 13:06 EST-0500)

I just wanted to show what you have, and what it costs. I'll post another build here in a sec.

:edit:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($339.99 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($42.36 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($10.29 @ B&H)
Mouse: Logitech G400s Wired Optical Mouse ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1336.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-05 13:13 EST-0500)

Same overall cost, however, I've included a Case, Cpu cooler, and optical drive.

Changes are: Cheaper motherboard that will still provide plenty of features and overclocking support. I dropped the 2133mhz Ram because either you were spending a bit more for it, or you were getting a slower CAS latency set. This set is 1866mhz @ CAS 9, which is the slowest I'd ever recommend for these speeds. Dropped down from the WD Black HDD, to a Seagate Barracuda. You won't notice any difference in speed between the two, and you can save 25 dollars.

Spent more on the Psu, simply because the CX line is more of a budget solution. With these components, you want it powered by something more reliable. It's also 850w simple in case you want to crossfire in the future, this Psu can handle that and an overclock. Added a great budget cooler that can support a mild to medium overclock(4.2-4-5 maybe), anything higher and you'll need a better cooler. Switched out video cards for one that is the same price, but higher clocked out of the box.

I ditched the Razer keyboard because if you aren't buying a mechanical keyboard, I don't see the reason to spend 50 dollars on one. I also ditched the Razer mouse because I've owned two different Razer mice, and they have both failed on me for the exact same reason. A single left button mouse click double-clicks, which is extremely annoying in game, and even browsing the interwebs. This Logitech is a nice model, for a good price. However, mouse/keyboard are mainly a matter of personal preference, so really up to you. Just my opinion.



Thanks a lot! This is SUPER helpful. Just so long as the case has enough air flow for the components to run cool.

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