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January 5, 2014 5:26:28 PM

I've been researching for about a month for all the parts I need for my first build and I think I've got everything ready to purchase. Could you guys just double check the parts I have picked out and let me know if it's all good and please don't change the headphones, the peripherals, the storage or the monitor please. I'm good with those, and also keep the color scheme to silver and black.

Here's the parts: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2wkpZ
January 5, 2014 5:38:33 PM

It looks good.

Add a H80i cooler for the CPU.
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January 5, 2014 5:38:35 PM

This looks very good! Everything goes well together, so you should be good! By the way, I love the color scheme!
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January 5, 2014 5:38:40 PM

Well i would change the ram for 2x8gb as you can later on upgrade to 32gb if you use 2x4 your capped at 16. as for harddrive id get the Seagate Hybrid Drive ST2000DX001 2TB MLC/8GB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s NCQ 3.5" Desktop SSHD as it has 8GB of ssd on it to help it work alot faster and costs the same.( also there is $20 off promo on it on newegg)
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January 5, 2014 5:44:12 PM

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2wkpZ) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2wkpZ/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2wkpZ/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k) | $229.99 @ NCIX US
good
**Motherboard** | [Asus SABERTOOTH Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-sabertoot...) | $234.99 @ Amazon
this is fine. the thermal armor is a joke though and you may want to remove. another option would be the hero board.
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmy8gx3m2a1...) | $96.76 @ NCIX US
good.
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-driv...) | $214.00 @ B&H
good.
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-h...) | $146.98 @ OutletPC
fine but be aware drives larger than 1tb have higher failure rates. i'm on my 5th rma of 1.5 and 2tb drives.
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp42884k...) | $719.99 @ Newegg
good card. the gigabyte one may have a better cooler with 3 fans though. in any case either of them are better than the ref design.
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/tp-link-wireless-network-c...) | $42.92 @ Amazon
your choice.
**Case** | [Corsair C70 Gunmetal Black (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-c70gunmetalbl...) | $138.98 @ Newegg
**Case Fan** | [Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition 39.9 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-fan-co9050001...) | $15.53 @ Newegg
**Case Fan** | [Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-fan-co9050002...) | $24.99 @ NCIX US
**Case Fan** | [Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-fan-co9050009...) | $16.99 @ Amazon
**Case Fan** | [Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-fan-co9050009...) | $16.99 @ Amazon
your choice.
**Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120pg065...) | $64.99 @ Microcenter
i would go with an xfx, seasonic, antec psu or perhaps a corsair hx series myself but some of the evga ones arent terrible. if you plan on overclocking the system or future upgrading like sli i'd raise it to 750.
**Optical Drive** | [Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1...) | $19.98 @ OutletPC
your choice.
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615) | $94.98 @ OutletPC
are you sure you want windows 8.1? its pretty bad and has quite a few bugs/issues. your choice.
**Monitor** | [Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-pb278q) | $557.58 @ Newegg
your choice.
**Keyboard** | [Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-keyboard-ch9000019...) | $119.99 @ Amazon
your choice.
**Mouse** | [SteelSeries Sensei RAW Wired Laser Mouse](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/steelseries-mouse-62155) | $53.89 @ Amazon
your choice.
**Headphones** | [Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Headphones](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/audio-technica-headphones-...) | $139.95 @ Amazon
awesome headphones. i own a pair.
**Other**| SteelSeries QcK Gaming Mouse Pad (Black)| $9.88
you should get one like my signature link :) . semi-joking...... anyways this is your choice.
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $2960.35
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-05 20:37 EST-0500 |


you forgot a cpu cooler. i'd get at minimum a hyper 212 evo (or 212 +). if you want serious o/c then i'd go big air you could get a nh-d14. or go with a corsair or nzxt water loop.
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January 5, 2014 5:44:52 PM

Looks great! Just add a CPU cooler and you should be good to go. If you want to go with a cheap air cooler that performs great go with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo or if you want to go the water cooling route for higher overclocks and expand ability go with a Cooler Master Glacer 240L.
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January 5, 2014 6:24:52 PM

ssddx said:
[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2wkpZ) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2wkpZ/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2wkpZ/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k) | $229.99 @ NCIX US
good
**Motherboard** | [Asus SABERTOOTH Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-sabertoot...) | $234.99 @ Amazon
this is fine. the thermal armor is a joke though and you may want to remove. another option would be the hero board.
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmy8gx3m2a1...) | $96.76 @ NCIX US
good.
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-driv...) | $214.00 @ B&H
good.
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-h...) | $146.98 @ OutletPC
fine but be aware drives larger than 1tb have higher failure rates. i'm on my 5th rma of 1.5 and 2tb drives.
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp42884k...) | $719.99 @ Newegg
good card. the gigabyte one may have a better cooler with 3 fans though. in any case either of them are better than the ref design.
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/tp-link-wireless-network-c...) | $42.92 @ Amazon
your choice.
**Case** | [Corsair C70 Gunmetal Black (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-c70gunmetalbl...) | $138.98 @ Newegg
**Case Fan** | [Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition 39.9 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-fan-co9050001...) | $15.53 @ Newegg
**Case Fan** | [Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-fan-co9050002...) | $24.99 @ NCIX US
**Case Fan** | [Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-fan-co9050009...) | $16.99 @ Amazon
**Case Fan** | [Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-fan-co9050009...) | $16.99 @ Amazon
your choice.
**Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120pg065...) | $64.99 @ Microcenter
i would go with an xfx, seasonic, antec psu or perhaps a corsair hx series myself but some of the evga ones arent terrible. if you plan on overclocking the system or future upgrading like sli i'd raise it to 750.
**Optical Drive** | [Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1...) | $19.98 @ OutletPC
your choice.
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615) | $94.98 @ OutletPC
are you sure you want windows 8.1? its pretty bad and has quite a few bugs/issues. your choice.
**Monitor** | [Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-pb278q) | $557.58 @ Newegg
your choice.
**Keyboard** | [Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-keyboard-ch9000019...) | $119.99 @ Amazon
your choice.
**Mouse** | [SteelSeries Sensei RAW Wired Laser Mouse](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/steelseries-mouse-62155) | $53.89 @ Amazon
your choice.
**Headphones** | [Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Headphones](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/audio-technica-headphones-...) | $139.95 @ Amazon
awesome headphones. i own a pair.
**Other**| SteelSeries QcK Gaming Mouse Pad (Black)| $9.88
you should get one like my signature link :) . semi-joking...... anyways this is your choice.
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $2960.35
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-05 20:37 EST-0500 |


you forgot a cpu cooler. i'd get at minimum a hyper 212 evo (or 212 +). if you want serious o/c then i'd go big air you could get a nh-d14. or go with a corsair or nzxt water loop.


Thanks alot man, :)  your answer helped me out the best. I changed the hard drive to 1 TB (didn't really need 2 TB anyways, just thought it would be nice to have the extra space and thanks for the tip on the failure thing.) Windows 8.1 is fine I guess I found a great article on how to make it feel like Windows 7 and the EVGA video card is fine with heating for now, that's why I got the extra fans so I don't think I need the extra cooling but thanks for the suggestion! :)  The Thermal Armor on the mobo fits my color scheme but yeah I don't think it really helps the heat all that much either. I changed the power supply to 750 watt too per your suggestion and also I'll add the cooler when I plan on overclocking and EpicEagle44, the color scheme is inspired by Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden: http://beautyrender.blogspot.com/2012/10/ryu-hayabusa-w... :D 

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January 5, 2014 10:04:25 PM

How much storage do you need? Samsung's 750GB SSD is $400, if you dumped your HDD and added the amount to your SSD, you would have to pay $50 more, but avoid the hassle of two hard drives and have it all on an SSD. In addition (though I'm less sure of this), the 780 Ti with 8GB of system memory seems like a mismatch in that you will hit a RAM bottleneck before your GPU is really being taxed. What if you went from a 780 Ti to a 780, save $200 like that, buy a second set of that RAM with $100 from the GPU savings to bring your memory up to 16GB, and furthermore use $50 from the GPU savings to get you to the 750GB Samsung SSD?
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January 5, 2014 11:45:38 PM

Specops125 said:
How much storage do you need? Samsung's 750GB SSD is $400, if you dumped your HDD and added the amount to your SSD, you would have to pay $50 more, but avoid the hassle of two hard drives and have it all on an SSD. In addition (though I'm less sure of this), the 780 Ti with 8GB of system memory seems like a mismatch in that you will hit a RAM bottleneck before your GPU is really being taxed. What if you went from a 780 Ti to a 780, save $200 like that, buy a second set of that RAM with $100 from the GPU savings to bring your memory up to 16GB, and furthermore use $50 from the GPU savings to get you to the 750GB Samsung SSD?


I'm not really worried about money so couldn't I just keep the 780 Ti AND upgrade the ram to 16GB to avoid the bottlenecking?
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January 6, 2014 12:01:06 AM

if your not worried about money then just upgrade to 4x8Gb= 32Gb of ram and ur set.
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January 6, 2014 12:04:44 AM

8GB of ram will not bottle neck a 780 ti. I currently have 34 tabs open in chrome along with a bunch of other programs running in the background and i was just playing Dayz (the mod not the standalone) on very high while only using 9GB of my 16GB of RAM. I would go with a 780 ti and 16GB of ram if i were you since your budget is so high.
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January 6, 2014 12:06:56 AM

esco_sid said:
if your not worried about money then just upgrade to 4x8Gb= 32Gb of ram and ur set.


Will 8GB of ram even be a real problem with the GTX 780 Ti SC? Will anything actually bottleneck in this setup? I'm not gonna buy more ram then I need even if money isn't a factor.
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January 6, 2014 12:09:27 AM

the thing is... ssd are very expensive for the amount of space they give you. having a 250 and a 1tb gives you 1.25tb of space while going with just a ssd gives you 750gb only at a $200 increase in price. not very effecient. i think the 250gb+1tb is best.

the 780ti + 8gb system memory is NOT a mismatch. 8 gigs of ram is more than enough for gaming. in fact only 8gb (2x4gb) is suggested for gaming by almost every single person around here for gaming for that very reason. now i will say that going with 16gb isnt a bad choice only that it is likely wasting money. in the future if ram is really an issue (again i'm 99.9% sure with just gaming that you will never need more than 8 for just gaming at least for the lifecycle of this pc) then you could always add another 2 sticks at that point in time.

going with 16gb of ram and a 750gb ssd is a bit overkill and isnt worth dropping a 780ti for. running at 2560x1440 is going to need that 780ti.

edit: the only reason for having 16gb of ram is if you do some heavy multi-tasking like that other guy. if you dont go so overkill as that (32 tabs, many progams plus gaming all at once) its not required. i'm still running on 6 here and i've never hit my max and i run games, photoshop and many tabs at once as well.

@op its completely up to you if you want to take that advice but i think you're going to be perfectly fine as is!
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January 6, 2014 12:32:54 AM

ssddx said:
the thing is... ssd are very expensive for the amount of space they give you. having a 250 and a 1tb gives you 1.25tb of space while going with just a ssd gives you 750gb only at a $200 increase in price. not very effecient. i think the 250gb+1tb is best.

the 780ti + 8gb system memory is NOT a mismatch. 8 gigs of ram is more than enough for gaming. in fact only 8gb (2x4gb) is suggested for gaming by almost every single person around here for gaming for that very reason. now i will say that going with 16gb isnt a bad choice only that it is likely wasting money. in the future if ram is really an issue (again i'm 99.9% sure with just gaming that you will never need more than 8 for just gaming at least for the lifecycle of this pc) then you could always add another 2 sticks at that point in time.

going with 16gb of ram and a 750gb ssd is a bit overkill and isnt worth dropping a 780ti for. running at 2560x1440 is going to need that 780ti.

edit: the only reason for having 16gb of ram is if you do some heavy multi-tasking like that other guy. if you dont go so overkill as that (32 tabs, many progams plus gaming all at once) its not required. i'm still running on 6 here and i've never hit my max and i run games, photoshop and many tabs at once as well.

@op its completely up to you if you want to take that advice but i think you're going to be perfectly fine as is!


I figured as much but man I wish I could pick best answer 2 times ssddx. :D  because that's what I was thinking. I will need that gtx 780 ti for my 27" so I'm not dropping that and one ssd isn't enough for me while also considering the high price point but anyways you just answered all my questions man and set it all straight. 8gb is enough as far as what I've heard when it comes to ram also. Thanks alot for the help!
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January 6, 2014 12:35:34 AM

no problem.

yes.. 8gb is more than enough for most users. you have to do some pretty crazy multitasking while gaming with many programs open to get that kind of usage. or do video editing, 3d work, photoshop or streaming while playing.

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January 6, 2014 12:37:05 AM

oh.. not sure you care but gskill ripjaws x 1866 cas9 ram in 2x4gb is on sale at newegg for $68 with promo code (i ordered some a few days ago). its a few bucks cheaper than yours but its bright red.. not sure if it matches :p 
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January 6, 2014 12:43:34 AM

ssddx said:
oh.. not sure you care but gskill ripjaws x 1866 cas9 ram in 2x4gb is on sale at newegg for $68 with promo code (i ordered some a few days ago). its a few bucks cheaper than yours but its bright red.. not sure if it matches :p 


Oh thats fine, I've got major OCD so the black and silver Ryu Hayabusa color scheme matters to me more then 20 or 30 bucks but thanks anyways! :) 

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January 6, 2014 12:54:20 AM

just built a $413 a10 apu build for a relative... and even for that price i managed to have it all match ;) 

black on black with a little bit of red. hey.... thats part of the fun. so i get you totally. my own tower matches too (i went with a rog motherboard so i had to get red on everything to make it match)
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January 6, 2014 1:29:43 AM

ssddx said:
just built a $413 a10 apu build for a relative... and even for that price i managed to have it all match ;) 

black on black with a little bit of red. hey.... thats part of the fun. so i get you totally. my own tower matches too (i went with a rog motherboard so i had to get red on everything to make it match)


Yeah, that's another part of the accomplishment feeling you get when you complete a build, ;D because making the colors match is actually harder then building the computer IMO.
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January 6, 2014 1:37:25 AM

The RAM discussion can go back and forward. ssddx is right in that there is a strong consensus that 8GB is adequate and likely more then this pc would need during it's life for gaming. On the other hand, based on researching other people's builds while deciding on my pc, and going through pretty much every pc maker out there before deciding to build my comp myself, I would maintain that 8GB RAM with a 780 Ti is unusual in that 8GB memory tends to be the starting point for more expensive rigs, whereas the 780 Ti is arguably at the top of GPU single-card food chain.

In any case, alt-tabbing out of Planetside 2 with 1 Chrome tab open had me using between 4.9-5.3 GB of RAM with 5-7% CPU use while having PS2 minimized. I'm running 4930K with GTX 780 and 16 GB of RAM. My full build is here.



Going with the larger SSD and forgoing the HDD really is a judgment call. As ssddx points out, HDD's get you a lot more bang for your buck. If you have that much data you regularly access then getting an SSD for the OS and some games really is the best you can do. But if you were going to put say 400 GB of movies on your comp from day 1, and you may or may not watch 30% of them over the next several years, you should really consider whether you want to forgo that 500 GB in increased SSD space for game/other software installations by going with the 250 GB SSD and 1 TB HDD instead of the 750 GB SSD.
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January 6, 2014 2:08:27 AM

Specops125 said:
The RAM discussion can go back and forward. ssddx is right in that there is a strong consensus that 8GB is adequate and likely more then this pc would need during it's life for gaming. On the other hand, based on researching other people's builds while deciding on my pc, and going through pretty much every pc maker out there before deciding to build my comp myself, I would maintain that 8GB RAM with a 780 Ti is unusual in that 8GB memory tends to be the starting point for more expensive rigs, whereas the 780 Ti is arguably at the top of GPU single-card food chain.

In any case, alt-tabbing out of Planetside 2 with 1 Chrome tab open had me using between 4.9-5.3 GB of RAM with 5-7% CPU use while having PS2 minimized. I'm running 4930K with GTX 780 and 16 GB of RAM. My full build is here.



Going with the larger SSD and forgoing the HDD really is a judgment call. As ssddx points out, HDD's get you a lot more bang for your buck. If you have that much data you regularly access then getting an SSD for the OS and some games really is the best you can do. But if you were going to put say 400 GB of movies on your comp from day 1, and you may or may not watch 30% of them over the next several years, you should really consider whether you want to forgo that 500 GB in increased SSD space for game/other software installations by going with the 250 GB SSD and 1 TB HDD instead of the 750 GB SSD.


Good point on the ram, as for the storage though, I think I'll stick with the 1TB mechanical and the 256GB SSD but about the ram, should I go with 8GB ram or 16GB ram?
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January 6, 2014 3:20:07 AM

If I were in your shoes I would get the 16 GB ram, either by spending more or finding the money somewhere else in the system (though not the GPU, I now see that your monitor will be 1440p, so the GTX 780 Ti should distinguish itself from the regular 780 particularly well). I think this is especially true if you plan to keep this system a long time. Also, are you big on MMOs? Those pretty much universally have some sort of downtime/travel time/etc where you would be alt-tab out to do other stuff. If the answer to this is yes, it cuts in favor of going with the 16 GBs.

Finally, Xbox One and PS4 have 8 GB of RAM, whereas Xbox 360 and PS3 had 512 MB. I think it's fair to say that this console hardware boost will ultimately result in pc games getting heavier on memory usage.

Anyway, were you aware this 27 inch 1440p monitor existed? It's been well received and could save you quite a bit. They have a guaranteed zero dead pixel order you can also place for a bit more.

Oh yeah and I noticed I have the wireless card you're getting and have to say I'm very pleased with it so far, it works great. I think my internet is faster now with my desktop in a slot under my desk then my old laptop just sitting on my desk.
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January 6, 2014 7:36:41 AM

why would you downgrade from a well known brand like asus to something like qnix? sounds kind of silly to me.

yes.... the 8gb of ram argument could go either way. it is true that 8gb is the suggested amount for gamers and also true that people with a huge budget also normally go with 16gb. it is also true that in gaming systems the ram goes mostly unused and is mostly there for piece of mind. it is also true that the op could upgrade the ram in the future if it was ever a problem and it is also true that sometimes it can be hard to find matching ram sticks in a year or two if that happens. quite a bit of things are true.

the op just needs to make a decision on if they feel it is a worthwhile investment for them. honestly i feel that going either route is completely valid. considering the budget and fact that its going to be a 2560x1440 system it might not be a worthwhile investment even if there isnt a real demand for it. again, the ops choice.
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January 6, 2014 11:49:11 AM

ssddx said:
why would you downgrade from a well known brand like asus to something like qnix? sounds kind of silly to me.

yes.... the 8gb of ram argument could go either way. it is true that 8gb is the suggested amount for gamers and also true that people with a huge budget also normally go with 16gb. it is also true that in gaming systems the ram goes mostly unused and is mostly there for piece of mind. it is also true that the op could upgrade the ram in the future if it was ever a problem and it is also true that sometimes it can be hard to find matching ram sticks in a year or two if that happens. quite a bit of things are true.

the op just needs to make a decision on if they feel it is a worthwhile investment for them. honestly i feel that going either route is completely valid. considering the budget and fact that its going to be a 2560x1440 system it might not be a worthwhile investment even if there isnt a real demand for it. again, the ops choice.


Okay, I guess I have a decision to make then. Anyways thanks again guys for the help and I hope this build will be fun! :) 
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January 6, 2014 10:10:41 PM

Specops125 said:
If I were in your shoes I would get the 16 GB ram, either by spending more or finding the money somewhere else in the system (though not the GPU, I now see that your monitor will be 1440p, so the GTX 780 Ti should distinguish itself from the regular 780 particularly well). I think this is especially true if you plan to keep this system a long time. Also, are you big on MMOs? Those pretty much universally have some sort of downtime/travel time/etc where you would be alt-tab out to do other stuff. If the answer to this is yes, it cuts in favor of going with the 16 GBs.

Finally, Xbox One and PS4 have 8 GB of RAM, whereas Xbox 360 and PS3 had 512 MB. I think it's fair to say that this console hardware boost will ultimately result in pc games getting heavier on memory usage.

Anyway, were you aware this 27 inch 1440p monitor existed? It's been well received and could save you quite a bit. They have a guaranteed zero dead pixel order you can also place for a bit more.

Oh yeah and I noticed I have the wireless card you're getting and have to say I'm very pleased with it so far, it works great. I think my internet is faster now with my desktop in a slot under my desk then my old laptop just sitting on my desk.


Oh sorry, forgot to reply to this post man, didn't see it earlier but yeah, I think I'll go with 8GB of ram. I can upgrade later in time if any new games I'm interested in happen to need 16GB of ram and I've also seen that monitor while tryna deciding on a good 27". I decided to go with the ASUS one because they have a better warranty system and #2, Korean monitors ARE cheaper but have crappier stands, crappier warranty, black light bleeding more then half the time and can have dead pixels even if you choose the pixel perfect version in some cases plus, some say those Korean monitors are discarded Samsung or Apple panels or something. Long story short, I don't trust them. but thanks for tryna help me man, I really appreciate it. :) 

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January 7, 2014 6:42:07 AM

the only reason i'd consider one is for 120hz however they do not make those anymore and all the ones you see floating around are not likely to overclock. it was a very special board that was installed on some of the models which they are currently out of stock of.

a few months ago i remember seeing some gaming panels from some company based here in the usa (at least i think they are) which were 120hz and i do believe they were ips. if i remember correctly they used A grade panels unlike the korean ones but for the life of me i cannot remember the brand. they were somewhere in the midwest and they also made gaming computers i believe and sold the monitors with them and also on the side as seperate items as well.

not much info i know... but i was definitely impressed when i saw it and if i had the cash (and if i didnt use my 40" sony tv) i'd have bought one!
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January 7, 2014 6:49:46 AM

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The overlord monitors use the exact same IPS panel and circuit board as the 120hz catleaps. They are essentially the same monitor in different housings.


http://overlordcomputer.com/collections/27-monitors/pro...

found it! not sure if its going to be helpful though.

basically its a better version of the korean overclockable monitors i do believe. do your own research on it if you are interested.
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January 7, 2014 12:57:30 PM

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The overlord monitors use the exact same IPS panel and circuit board as the 120hz catleaps. They are essentially the same monitor in different housings.


http://overlordcomputer.com/collections/27-monitors/pro...

found it! not sure if its going to be helpful though.

basically its a better version of the korean overclockable monitors i do believe. do your own research on it if you are interested.


Yeah I did come across those at some point and I thought they were also korean but I guess not. I'll look into them, thanks again man. :) 
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