Should i get gtx 770 or 2 gtx 590
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Matsku man
January 6, 2014 8:30:15 AM
FlyingHelmet
January 6, 2014 8:34:02 AM
Derza10
January 6, 2014 9:08:32 AM
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Matsku man
January 6, 2014 9:14:36 AM
Matsku man
January 6, 2014 9:17:28 AM
Matsku man
January 6, 2014 9:19:05 AM
Derza10
January 6, 2014 9:23:31 AM
Matsku man
January 6, 2014 9:31:29 AM
Derza10 said:
What are the rest of the specs on your computer?i7 3960x prosessor, 16gb memory,1 tb hard drive,asus sabertooth x79 and Corsair H100i Hydro Series CPU Cooling what do you think about thease specs plus 2x evga gtx 590 hydrocopper this pc is water cooled and 1050 watt corsair power supply.
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Derza10
January 6, 2014 9:33:50 AM
Matsku man
January 6, 2014 9:39:57 AM
Derza10
January 6, 2014 9:44:09 AM
So what is your budget? and why is it gtx 770 vs 2 590's? for 1 1080p monitor the 770 will be plenty... If you want more power i'd go with either the 780 or 780 ti... Depending on your budget... i'm thinking 2 590's + waterloop is going to cost you a bit more than the cost of the 770, so a budget would be helpful.
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Matsku man
January 6, 2014 9:47:23 AM
Derza10 said:
So what is your budget? and why is it gtx 770 vs 2 590's? for 1 1080p monitor the 770 will be plenty... If you want more power i'd go with either the 780 or 780 ti... Depending on your budget... i'm thinking 2 590's + waterloop is going to cost you a bit more than the cost of the 770, so a budget would be helpful.My budget is 3000 dollars and i chose the gtx 590s because gtx 590 is better than the gtx 780.
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Derza10
January 6, 2014 9:56:55 AM
Wait your budget is $3000 for the video cards? No reason to even consider the GTX 590's..... Get 2 GTX 780 ti's ( even though 1 will be more than enough and even overkill at 1080p ) Stay away from the 590's... its a dual card and only has 1.5 gb of ram.
Oh and the GTX 780 out performs the gtx 590 by 10%+... Not sure where you are getting your info from....
Oh and the GTX 780 out performs the gtx 590 by 10%+... Not sure where you are getting your info from....
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Matsku man
January 6, 2014 10:23:38 AM
Derza10 said:
Wait your budget is $3000 for the video cards? No reason to even consider the GTX 590's..... Get 2 GTX 780 ti's ( even though 1 will be more than enough and even overkill at 1080p ) Stay away from the 590's... its a dual card and only has 1.5 gb of ram.Oh and the GTX 780 out performs the gtx 590 by 10%+... Not sure where you are getting your info from....
My graphics cards doesnt cost 3000k my setup cost 3000k and the gtx 590 versions what i am considering are 3gb versions per each card and the gtx 590 is better than the gtx 780 results are here:http://www.hwcompare.com/14146/geforce-gtx-590-vs-gefor...
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thdarkshadow
January 6, 2014 10:35:29 AM
hardware compare is just theoretical. not really a good source. and in the games i could find and from memory the 780 is actually better. plus it has more video ram which is starting to use more than 1.5gb. those "3gb" cards split that between the GPUs making it two 1.5gb GPUs on the same board. not the best explanation but only half of the 3gb is technically useable
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Matsku man
January 6, 2014 10:39:43 AM
thdarkshadow said:
hardware compare is just theoretical. not really a good source. and in the games i could find and from memory the 780 is actually better. plus it has more video ram which is starting to use more than 1.5gb. those "3gb" cards split that between the GPUs making it two 1.5gb GPUs on the same board. not the best explanation but only half of the 3gb is technically useableWell gtx 590 is better than your 760.
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jeremyp79
January 6, 2014 10:42:17 AM
thdarkshadow
January 6, 2014 10:50:40 AM
Matsku man said:
thdarkshadow said:
hardware compare is just theoretical. not really a good source. and in the games i could find and from memory the 780 is actually better. plus it has more video ram which is starting to use more than 1.5gb. those "3gb" cards split that between the GPUs making it two 1.5gb GPUs on the same board. not the best explanation but only half of the 3gb is technically useableWell gtx 590 is better than your 760.
woah there! yes the 590 is more powerful than a 760 but I dont believe thats the subject at hand. I think the 590 is a really bad choice for a high end rig due to low VRAM and was trying to explain why and why the 780 would be a better choice. my rig is decidedly mid range and thats all I want from it so bash away for saving money!
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Derza10
January 6, 2014 12:57:27 PM
As thdarkshadow said that site you used does not compare actual performance, if you look at benchmarks and game framerates the GTX 780 is about 10-20%(if not more) faster than the GTX 590 and also as he stated the gtx 590 has 3bg of ram but its 1.5gb per card (gtx590 is 2 gtx 580's on one PCB) so you only have 1.5gb of usable ram.
Take a look at this chart it shows the GTX 780 and GTX 590.
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-780/6/
Take a look at this chart it shows the GTX 780 and GTX 590.
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-780/6/
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Derza10
January 6, 2014 1:26:05 PM
Matsku man
January 6, 2014 10:13:24 PM
Derza10 said:
I think it is funny that in your original post you say "I only care about performance" but then try to pick a card based off of specs and not actual performance... Ironic isn't it? Well i was also considering 2x evga gtx 690 hydroopper editions gtx 690 should peform better than the 780 ti right ?
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Derza10
January 7, 2014 8:28:50 AM
Matsku man said:
Derza10 said:
I think it is funny that in your original post you say "I only care about performance" but then try to pick a card based off of specs and not actual performance... Ironic isn't it? Well i was also considering 2x evga gtx 690 hydroopper editions gtx 690 should peform better than the 780 ti right ?
2x 780 ti will out perform 2x gtx 690. Remember the GTX 690 is a dual card already so if you get 2 of them its like quad sli... and you don't get the full scaling from sli'ing past 2... If you are considering 2x gtx 690... you would be better off getting 2x gtx 780 ti's for better performance and less hassle and the gtx 780 ti's will give you 3gb ram while the 690's will give you 2gb usable.
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Derza10
January 7, 2014 8:33:26 AM
jeremyp79
January 7, 2014 11:43:56 AM
With 1080p gaming, a 780ti is more than youll need. It will play pretty much any game out there with everything turned to ultra, with average framerates close to 60. Going with 2 dual gpu boards, while it would be cool for bragging rights, is pointless unless youre going to be running with multiple monitors.
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jb6684
January 7, 2014 1:03:42 PM
Scaling of GPU's any brand (NVidia/AMD), any model falls off VERY rapidly after two (2) cards. Check out any number of reviews. Also, in those reviews, support for four (4) GPU's is almost non-existent in games and buggy at it's best.
GTX590's are out of date & obsolete (as new cards are faster for less money). Not even sure where you could find ONE GTX590, let alone a pair....
As others point out, GTX 780 or 780Ti would be the recommended starting point for a new build....
And while GTX 690's are a current card, they would not be my choice for $2000. Dual GTX 780Ti's would crush them for about $600 less (before you bought any water cooler bits...)
I would never recommend anyone's 1st build is a custom water cooled loop system...
GTX590's are out of date & obsolete (as new cards are faster for less money). Not even sure where you could find ONE GTX590, let alone a pair....
As others point out, GTX 780 or 780Ti would be the recommended starting point for a new build....
And while GTX 690's are a current card, they would not be my choice for $2000. Dual GTX 780Ti's would crush them for about $600 less (before you bought any water cooler bits...)
I would never recommend anyone's 1st build is a custom water cooled loop system...
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Matsku man
January 7, 2014 8:51:03 PM
Matsku man
January 7, 2014 8:54:20 PM
jb6684 said:
Scaling of GPU's any brand (NVidia/AMD), any model falls off VERY rapidly after two (2) cards. Check out any number of reviews. Also, in those reviews, support for four (4) GPU's is almost non-existent in games and buggy at it's best.GTX590's are out of date & obsolete (as new cards are faster for less money). Not even sure where you could find ONE GTX590, let alone a pair....
As others point out, GTX 780 or 780Ti would be the recommended starting point for a new build....
And while GTX 690's are a current card, they would not be my choice for $2000. Dual GTX 780Ti's would crush them for about $600 less (before you bought any water cooler bits...)
I would never recommend anyone's 1st build is a custom water cooled loop system...
The gtx 690 peforms better than gtx titan
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jb6684
January 8, 2014 5:34:45 AM
Matsku man
January 8, 2014 5:45:48 AM
jb6684 said:
Yes, I have a SINGLE GTX690. It is a very powerful single card, point folks have been making is expansion. Adding a SECOND GTX690 at a total cost of about $2000 is where GTX780 or 780Ti make more sense. They cost Far less, and a simply going to perform better a pair of 690's.......Gtx 690 peforms better than 780.
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jb6684
January 8, 2014 5:47:10 AM
Matsku man said:
jb6684 said:
Yes, I have a SINGLE GTX690. It is a very powerful single card, point folks have been making is expansion. Adding a SECOND GTX690 at a total cost of about $2000 is where GTX780 or 780Ti make more sense. They cost Far less, and a simply going to perform better a pair of 690's.......Gtx 690 peforms better than 780.
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jb6684
January 8, 2014 5:48:49 AM
Derza10
January 8, 2014 8:27:37 AM
Matsku man said:
jb6684 said:
Yes, I have a SINGLE GTX690. It is a very powerful single card, point folks have been making is expansion. Adding a SECOND GTX690 at a total cost of about $2000 is where GTX780 or 780Ti make more sense. They cost Far less, and a simply going to perform better a pair of 690's.......Gtx 690 peforms better than 780.
The thing you don't seem to under stand is the GTX 690 is $1000 yes it performs better than the $500 gtx 780... but 2 gtx 780 outperform a GTX 690... And a single GTX 780 Ti is only slightly behind the GTX 690 and costs $300 less! And adding a second GTX 690 will not give you a whole lot of performance increase (maybe 30-50%)... where as if you had 1 gtx 780 Ti and then added a second you would see about a 90%+ increase in performance making it well outperform 2 gtx 690 and cost you $600 less.
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Matsku man
January 8, 2014 9:36:40 AM
Derza10 said:
Matsku man said:
jb6684 said:
Yes, I have a SINGLE GTX690. It is a very powerful single card, point folks have been making is expansion. Adding a SECOND GTX690 at a total cost of about $2000 is where GTX780 or 780Ti make more sense. They cost Far less, and a simply going to perform better a pair of 690's.......Gtx 690 peforms better than 780.
The thing you don't seem to under stand is the GTX 690 is $1000 yes it performs better than the $500 gtx 780... but 2 gtx 780 outperform a GTX 690... And a single GTX 780 Ti is only slightly behind the GTX 690 and costs $300 less! And adding a second GTX 690 will not give you a whole lot of performance increase (maybe 30-50%)... where as if you had 1 gtx 780 Ti and then added a second you would see about a 90%+ increase in performance making it well outperform 2 gtx 690 and cost you $600 less.
I dont care about the price i only care about the peformance 2 gtx 690s is like 4 way sli wich is awesome because the gtx 780 will come down in next year while the gtx 690 wich is a dual gpu card will stay on the top or should i wait for the gtx 790 if it comes out ?
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Derza10
January 8, 2014 9:41:41 AM
Matsku man said:
Derza10 said:
Matsku man said:
jb6684 said:
Yes, I have a SINGLE GTX690. It is a very powerful single card, point folks have been making is expansion. Adding a SECOND GTX690 at a total cost of about $2000 is where GTX780 or 780Ti make more sense. They cost Far less, and a simply going to perform better a pair of 690's.......Gtx 690 peforms better than 780.
The thing you don't seem to under stand is the GTX 690 is $1000 yes it performs better than the $500 gtx 780... but 2 gtx 780 outperform a GTX 690... And a single GTX 780 Ti is only slightly behind the GTX 690 and costs $300 less! And adding a second GTX 690 will not give you a whole lot of performance increase (maybe 30-50%)... where as if you had 1 gtx 780 Ti and then added a second you would see about a 90%+ increase in performance making it well outperform 2 gtx 690 and cost you $600 less.
I dont care about the price i only care about the peformance 2 gtx 690s is like 4 way sli wich is awesome because the gtx 780 will come down in next year while the gtx 690 wich is a dual gpu card will stay on the top or should i wait for the gtx 790 if it comes out ?
Lol i'm starting to think you are just trolling us... 2 GTX 690 is horrible performance per dollar... 4 way SLI is CRAP. pretty much no games support it and if they do you will see very little improvement... 2 GTX 780 Ti's will blow 2 gtx 690's away... AND cost $600 less!
I don't think you understand that adding more GPUS does not give you 100% scaling in performance per card...
2 cards does not equal 200% performance, it equals about 190%
3 cards does not equal 300% performance, it equals about 230%
4 cards does not equal 400% performance, it equals about 250%.
so going from 1 GTX 690 (100% performance) to 2 gtx 690's would give you about 130-135% performance... Where as goign from 1 gtx 780 ti (100% performance) to 2 gtx 780 ti's would give you about 190% performance.
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jb6684
January 8, 2014 9:46:40 AM
Derza10 said:
Matsku man said:
Derza10 said:
Matsku man said:
jb6684 said:
Yes, I have a SINGLE GTX690. It is a very powerful single card, point folks have been making is expansion. Adding a SECOND GTX690 at a total cost of about $2000 is where GTX780 or 780Ti make more sense. They cost Far less, and a simply going to perform better a pair of 690's.......Gtx 690 peforms better than 780.
The thing you don't seem to under stand is the GTX 690 is $1000 yes it performs better than the $500 gtx 780... but 2 gtx 780 outperform a GTX 690... And a single GTX 780 Ti is only slightly behind the GTX 690 and costs $300 less! And adding a second GTX 690 will not give you a whole lot of performance increase (maybe 30-50%)... where as if you had 1 gtx 780 Ti and then added a second you would see about a 90%+ increase in performance making it well outperform 2 gtx 690 and cost you $600 less.
I dont care about the price i only care about the peformance 2 gtx 690s is like 4 way sli wich is awesome because the gtx 780 will come down in next year while the gtx 690 wich is a dual gpu card will stay on the top or should i wait for the gtx 790 if it comes out ?
Lol i'm starting to think you are just trolling us... 2 GTX 690 is horrible performance per dollar... 4 way SLI is CRAP. pretty much no games support it and if they do you will see very little improvement... 2 GTX 780 Ti's will blow 2 gtx 690's away... AND cost $600 less!
you know what i think i'm done trying... You go ahead and get two GTX 690's I mean you don't seem to care that everyone is telling you its a dumb buy, so whatever, do it.
YEAH, I'm done posting to him too..............
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Matsku man
January 8, 2014 10:41:53 AM
jb6684 said:
Derza10 said:
Matsku man said:
Derza10 said:
Matsku man said:
jb6684 said:
Yes, I have a SINGLE GTX690. It is a very powerful single card, point folks have been making is expansion. Adding a SECOND GTX690 at a total cost of about $2000 is where GTX780 or 780Ti make more sense. They cost Far less, and a simply going to perform better a pair of 690's.......Gtx 690 peforms better than 780.
The thing you don't seem to under stand is the GTX 690 is $1000 yes it performs better than the $500 gtx 780... but 2 gtx 780 outperform a GTX 690... And a single GTX 780 Ti is only slightly behind the GTX 690 and costs $300 less! And adding a second GTX 690 will not give you a whole lot of performance increase (maybe 30-50%)... where as if you had 1 gtx 780 Ti and then added a second you would see about a 90%+ increase in performance making it well outperform 2 gtx 690 and cost you $600 less.
I dont care about the price i only care about the peformance 2 gtx 690s is like 4 way sli wich is awesome because the gtx 780 will come down in next year while the gtx 690 wich is a dual gpu card will stay on the top or should i wait for the gtx 790 if it comes out ?
Lol i'm starting to think you are just trolling us... 2 GTX 690 is horrible performance per dollar... 4 way SLI is CRAP. pretty much no games support it and if they do you will see very little improvement... 2 GTX 780 Ti's will blow 2 gtx 690's away... AND cost $600 less!
you know what i think i'm done trying... You go ahead and get two GTX 690's I mean you don't seem to care that everyone is telling you its a dumb buy, so whatever, do it.
YEAH, I'm done posting to him too..............
This was a test i only asked the gtx 590 vs the gtx 770 because i wanted to see how many people would post to me and the people how posted to me are nerds because you people waste your time in this website to post other people what things they should buy get a life nerd.
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Derza10
January 8, 2014 11:42:52 AM
Matsku man
January 8, 2014 8:25:29 PM
Derza10
January 8, 2014 10:17:41 PM
Matsku man said:
Derza10 said:
Sounds like you need to get a life if you are asking questions on a random website for no other reason than to get attention... Alot of games use sli like battlefield 4 and what is so bad in dual gpu cards ?
SLI is very good, 3 way is still decent improvement over 2 way, its when you add a 4th card that you see very little improvement. 2 gtx 690's is 4 way sli. If you are getting 1 card the gtx 690 is fine but you leave yourself with a poor upgrade path after that... If you go 1 gtx 780 ti you can still add a second and get huge improvements in framerates.
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Matsku man
January 9, 2014 4:33:25 AM
Derza10 said:
Matsku man said:
Derza10 said:
Sounds like you need to get a life if you are asking questions on a random website for no other reason than to get attention... Alot of games use sli like battlefield 4 and what is so bad in dual gpu cards ?
SLI is very good, 3 way is still decent improvement over 2 way, its when you add a 4th card that you see very little improvement. 2 gtx 690's is 4 way sli. If you are getting 1 card the gtx 690 is fine but you leave yourself with a poor upgrade path after that... If you go 1 gtx 780 ti you can still add a second and get huge improvements in framerates.
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Derza10
January 9, 2014 8:22:36 AM
No reason to disable cards... a 4th card would in most cases still give you some improved FPS... but it won't be much at all. Hmm let me try to explain it this way... If you have 1 gtx 690 lets call that 100% performance... so 1 GTX 780 ti would be about 90% performance (of a single gtx 690)
So now you add a second GTX 690 your performance now goes from 100% to about 140% (and say you were able to disable 1 of the gpus in the second gtx 690 the performance would be something like 130% of a single gtx 690)
If you had 1 gtx 780 Ti and added a second one your performance would go from about 90% to 171% of a single gtx 690.
Getting 2 gtx 690 is just a bad way to go anyway you look at it. I still think you should just one gtx 780 or gtx 780 ti and see how the performance is and then add a second one if you think its not enough for you... (at 1080p a single gtx 780 or gtx 780 ti should be more than enough)
So now you add a second GTX 690 your performance now goes from 100% to about 140% (and say you were able to disable 1 of the gpus in the second gtx 690 the performance would be something like 130% of a single gtx 690)
If you had 1 gtx 780 Ti and added a second one your performance would go from about 90% to 171% of a single gtx 690.
Getting 2 gtx 690 is just a bad way to go anyway you look at it. I still think you should just one gtx 780 or gtx 780 ti and see how the performance is and then add a second one if you think its not enough for you... (at 1080p a single gtx 780 or gtx 780 ti should be more than enough)
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Matsku man
January 9, 2014 9:30:41 AM
Derza10 said:
No reason to disable cards... a 4th card would in most cases still give you some improved FPS... but it won't be much at all. Hmm let me try to explain it this way... If you have 1 gtx 690 lets call that 100% performance... so 1 GTX 780 ti would be about 90% performance (of a single gtx 690) So now you add a second GTX 690 your performance now goes from 100% to about 140% (and say you were able to disable 1 of the gpus in the second gtx 690 the performance would be something like 130% of a single gtx 690)
If you had 1 gtx 780 Ti and added a second one your performance would go from about 90% to 171% of a single gtx 690.
Getting 2 gtx 690 is just a bad way to go anyway you look at it. I still think you should just one gtx 780 or gtx 780 ti and see how the performance is and then add a second one if you think its not enough for you... (at 1080p a single gtx 780 or gtx 780 ti should be more than enough)
Will 780 ti run 3 years every game in ultra settings.
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Derza10
January 9, 2014 9:48:10 AM
Matsku man said:
Derza10 said:
No reason to disable cards... a 4th card would in most cases still give you some improved FPS... but it won't be much at all. Hmm let me try to explain it this way... If you have 1 gtx 690 lets call that 100% performance... so 1 GTX 780 ti would be about 90% performance (of a single gtx 690) So now you add a second GTX 690 your performance now goes from 100% to about 140% (and say you were able to disable 1 of the gpus in the second gtx 690 the performance would be something like 130% of a single gtx 690)
If you had 1 gtx 780 Ti and added a second one your performance would go from about 90% to 171% of a single gtx 690.
Getting 2 gtx 690 is just a bad way to go anyway you look at it. I still think you should just one gtx 780 or gtx 780 ti and see how the performance is and then add a second one if you think its not enough for you... (at 1080p a single gtx 780 or gtx 780 ti should be more than enough)
Will 780 ti run 3 years every game in ultra settings.
I don't think anyone can tell you that for sure... Id say most games in the next 3 years will run with high to ultra settings at 1080p. But i'm fairly certain SLI gtx 780 TI will run any game at ultra settings in the next 3 years, and by buying 1 now that leaves you that upgrade path IF a second one is needed.
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