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January 6, 2014 11:07:08 AM

I just installed an FX-6300 CPU, and the cooler that came with it in the box is not labelled AMD (Some Chinese company) and looks fairly basic (just a fan and heatsink. The cooler on my old Athlon II CPU IS labelled as AMD, and besides the fan and heatsink, has some copper tubing. Even after 5 years, it's whisper quiet, whereas the new one is a bit noisy.

I wasn't going to worry about it, since I was going to add a new cooler when I OCed the new CPU. But it looks like the new mobo is unsuited for OCing, so it'll have to wait until I can afford a new mobo. In the meantime, I thought if the old cooler is better, I would switch. (at least to make tghings quieter)

Any idea how I can tell which cooler is actually better?

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January 6, 2014 11:10:47 AM

Run IntelBurnTest and CoreTemp with each configuration. It's designed to stress test the CPU to produce as much heat as possible. Use CoreTemp to monitor temps, and shut it down if you go over 75C. If you are not OC, and temps aren't too much to worry about go with the quieter one IMHO...
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January 6, 2014 11:13:34 AM

Is this cooler but without the amd stickers??
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January 6, 2014 11:17:35 AM

the old one is the nice heatpipes cooler that came with the phenoms black. i like it a lot too but mine was fairly loud... it is compatible with the am3+ socket so no problems there. just make sure to clean it and the cpu properly and reapply thermal paste and you're good to go.
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January 6, 2014 11:31:40 AM

Yes pit_1209, that's the one, except mine has the different sticker. I'm tempted to try them both, and it might be good practice to do a couple cooler swaps :) 

Mostly like the older one for being quieter. I know it's seen moderate use for 5 years, and I've ran it most of that time with an open case and no fans, and never had an issue.

If I could get things a little cooler it would be nice. Right now, on turbo (3.8Ghz) playing World of Tanks (known for being badly optimised for multicore) on low graphics (8600GT bottleneck, new card hasn't arrived yet) the CPU temp is about 57-58°C (47-48° watching movies) and I believe 62° is the no-no temp, so I'm a bit concerned.
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January 6, 2014 11:35:14 AM

Thanks Laviniu, good to know that my old one is decent. I just wasn't sure, since IIRC, my Athlon was running at 2.1Ghz, and the FX is running at 3.8Ghz (if that matters, I dunno, pretty noobish at this :)  )
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January 6, 2014 11:35:55 AM

Skpstr said:
Yes pit_1209, that's the one, except mine has the different sticker. I'm tempted to try them both, and it might be good practice to do a couple cooler swaps :) 

Mostly like the older one for being quieter. I know it's seen moderate use for 5 years, and I've ran it most of that time with an open case and no fans, and never had an issue.

If I could get things a little cooler it would be nice. Right now, on turbo (3.8Ghz) playing World of Tanks (known for being badly optimised for multicore) on low graphics (8600GT bottleneck, new card hasn't arrived yet) the CPU temp is about 57-58°C (47-48° watching movies) and I believe 62° is the no-no temp, so I'm a bit concerned.


That one is the stock cooler for a fx 6300, try using the old one but I will recommend an aftermarket cooler like the 212 evo ($35) I usually play wot also and know what are you talking about.
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January 6, 2014 11:40:28 AM

or if you're really after noise levels, i recently found zalman's to be great. they are quite cheap too in Europe. i got a CNPS9700 NT for about 25usd around Christmas.
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January 6, 2014 11:50:04 AM

Yes, definitely going to buy a better cooler before I OC, but since I spent every available cent on what I have now, I want to spend as little as possible (ideally nothing :D )

Since I have your attention, another question :) . Right now, I have the sides off the case, and no fans. Would it be better to get a couple cheap fans for my existing case (which also could use replacing, as it's 12 years old and the power switch is toast) and close it back up?

Also, my newest PSU (last one is 5 yrs. old and vented out the rear) has a huge fan on the bottom.(had to mount it upside down at the top of the case) is that an intake or exhaust?
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January 6, 2014 11:59:46 AM

-the psu always draws air out of the case and sends it out the back. regardless if bottom or top mounted.
-the sides closed actually help airflow if you had fans, and of course they reduce noise. however if it works ok with the sides off and you do plan to change the case i'd say it's no point to buy fans unless you can mount 120mm fans that would work on a new eventual case too.
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January 6, 2014 12:38:52 PM

Ok, maybe I'll just get a couple cheap 80mm fans (~$4CDN ea.) for the old case. From blindly buying new parts to fix the power switch problem I have, (like this upgrade lol) I can put the old PC back together once I get a new case and use it in the living room for movies & music, I'll just need a DVI/HDMI adapter.

Yet another question: on a multicore processor, does it run hotter when working moderately with 2-3 cores, or working hard on only one?
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January 6, 2014 4:38:51 PM

on most modern cpu=s the speed of each core can be adjusted automatically internally based on the load of that particular core. so when only 1 core is doing all the work that core will run much hotter compared to the other ones. however they are all in the same piece of silicon and the cpu as a whole should heat up about the same since the heat will radiate across the whole cpu. it could run a couple of degrees hotter when there's only one core doing all the work but the difference would be small. 1-5C max i would say...

of course, if more cores share the workload, the time to end the task would be lower so overall there would a smaller amount of total heat to dissipate.
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January 6, 2014 4:40:11 PM

before the fx cpu=s up to and including the phenom II, one core at 100% forced the whole cpu @100% full speed so older cpu-s would get hotter with only 1 core working at 100%
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January 6, 2014 4:41:02 PM

Thanks for the answers! :) 
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January 6, 2014 4:41:55 PM

I'll see if I can upload a pic of the other cooler, to see if you recognise it.
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January 6, 2014 5:08:35 PM

i'm guessing it's this one: http://techreport.com/review/16744/battle-of-the-elemen...

it's designed to cool up to 125W so no worries. it will definitely do better compared to the other one. just make sure to clean the cpu and cooler of the old thermal paste and apply a proper amount of new grease and secure it on the cpu.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermal-paste-heat-...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermal-paste-perfo...
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January 6, 2014 5:54:53 PM

Yep, that's the one (other than mine has a blue plastic locking lever :)  )

Thanks again! I know what I'm doing this weekend :) 
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