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January 6, 2014 8:06:35 PM

Hi there,

This will be my first time posting here, though I have read through many posts throughout the forums plenty of times.

I'm looking to build a new PC for myself sometime in the next month or two, somewhere in the $1500 range, with a little wiggle room. After some researching and comparing, I'm currently at this build. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2wXJR Most purchases will probably be via Newegg or microcenter.

This will be my second build, but first Intel build, as I previously built a budget AMD rig.

I'll be using this for primarily gaming, along with some photo editing and drawing (with a wacom tablet) in photoshop. I may Overclock, but haven't done it before, so it's still iffy.

What I'm hoping to get out of this post are thoughts on:

Opinions on the build itself.

Are the parts good quality for the price, if not, what are good recommendations? I know Asus is a good brand, sometimes over priced, MSI and GIGABYTE I've heard a good, but don't know enough about them to justify a decision for their products.

I had the thought of going up to 1866 RAM, but am unsure how big of a performance jump there is from 1600, and whether or not the CPU and Mobo are compatible. I've seen the "memory types" as 1333/1600, but am unsure if that means that's the max I can use, or if overclocking is needed. What's "enough or plenty" memory for the tasks I previously stated? (Have considered going down to 8gb 1600 or 1866 as well)

I'm looking to make this build around the 4770k, so what would be good options if they aren't already in the build or stated in a previous answer.

Lastly, as hard as it is, I'd like to future proof as much as possible, while stating within reason and budget.



I know a decent amount about this stuff, but not nearly enough to call myself an expert and know all the minor (maybe even major) differences between parts/brands/etc. so any help given is greatly appreciated.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Thanks




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January 6, 2014 8:27:23 PM

Il make two better build for you. One for OC one for not OC.
Not for OC.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Gigabyte mobos are good. They are just bit cheaper then Asus.
Both build do have good cpu cooler. With Xeon cpu you can leave out cpu fan and use just case fan to cool it down. Btw here is bechmarks of Xeon cpu. It is same cpu as the 4770 but no iGPU and it is just 100Mhz slower clock speed.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...
256GB SSD is good buy. Cheap and fast enough.
HDD is seagate barracuda 3TB so you he lots of room for storage anything. Seagate is now as good as WD. I have two 3TB seagate and they work really fine. They are silent and fast. Good reliability too. Then PSU. Rosewill best quality now. Best reliability and best noise and ripple levels too. I was thinking you want level 10 case so I did not put in case. Just ask and I can suggest something.

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.48 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Macho-120 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($156.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.62 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($383.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Lightning 800W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1320.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 23:30 EST-0500)

for OC.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($161.58 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.62 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($383.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Lightning 800W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1465.12
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 23:26 EST-0500)

Then it is just up to you. Hope you like my builds :) 
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January 6, 2014 9:20:08 PM

AxlFone said:
Il make two better build for you. One for OC one for not OC.
Not for OC.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Gigabyte mobos are good. They are just bit cheaper then Asus.
Both build do have good cpu cooler. With Xeon cpu you can leave out cpu fan and use just case fan to cool it down. Btw here is bechmarks of Xeon cpu. It is same cpu as the 4770 but no iGPU and it is just 100Mhz slower clock speed.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...
256GB SSD is good buy. Cheap and fast enough.
HDD is seagate barracuda 3TB so you he lots of room for storage anything. Seagate is now as good as WD. I have two 3TB seagate and they work really fine. They are silent and fast. Good reliability too. Then PSU. Rosewill best quality now. Best reliability and best noise and ripple levels too. I was thinking you want level 10 case so I did not put in case. Just ask and I can suggest something.

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.48 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Macho-120 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($156.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.62 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($383.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Lightning 800W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1320.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 23:30 EST-0500)

for OC.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($161.58 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.62 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($383.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Lightning 800W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1465.12
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 23:26 EST-0500)

Then it is just up to you. Hope you like my builds :) 

I figured Gigabyte had to be decent, seeing them recommended all over the place, especially for 1150. Never though of the Xeon CPU, just went straight to i7, but I'll look into it.

As for the builds, they don't look too bad in terms of my knowledge/preference of brand, but they look pretty good in terms of specs. I'll really look into and continue researching.

And the Level 10 case is really the only thing I could find that's has the kind of room and features (button for fan control, cable management, fans) that I wanted, just really expensive. If you know of anything that can match air flow, space, and cable management at a slightly lesser cost, that'd be cool.

Otherwise, thanks a lot for the response and input. Much appreciated.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 6, 2014 9:25:55 PM

Banonzii said:
AxlFone said:
Il make two better build for you. One for OC one for not OC.
Not for OC.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Gigabyte mobos are good. They are just bit cheaper then Asus.
Both build do have good cpu cooler. With Xeon cpu you can leave out cpu fan and use just case fan to cool it down. Btw here is bechmarks of Xeon cpu. It is same cpu as the 4770 but no iGPU and it is just 100Mhz slower clock speed.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...
256GB SSD is good buy. Cheap and fast enough.
HDD is seagate barracuda 3TB so you he lots of room for storage anything. Seagate is now as good as WD. I have two 3TB seagate and they work really fine. They are silent and fast. Good reliability too. Then PSU. Rosewill best quality now. Best reliability and best noise and ripple levels too. I was thinking you want level 10 case so I did not put in case. Just ask and I can suggest something.

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.48 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Macho-120 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($156.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.62 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($383.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Lightning 800W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1320.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 23:30 EST-0500)

for OC.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($161.58 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.62 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($383.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Lightning 800W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1465.12
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 23:26 EST-0500)

Then it is just up to you. Hope you like my builds :) 

I figured Gigabyte had to be decent, seeing them recommended all over the place, especially for 1150. Never though of the Xeon CPU, just went straight to i7, but I'll look into it.

As for the builds, they don't look too bad in terms of my knowledge/preference of brand, but they look pretty good in terms of specs. I'll really look into and continue researching.

And the Level 10 case is really the only thing I could find that's has the kind of room and features (button for fan control, cable management, fans) that I wanted, just really expensive. If you know of anything that can match air flow, space, and cable management at a slightly lesser cost, that'd be cool.

Otherwise, thanks a lot for the response and input. Much appreciated.


Im glad to help :)  Here is couple case options.

CM cosmos 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkQ5Y6RlAwU
Phanteks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWsPYTDEmHQ

Then cheaper option
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And other option.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 6, 2014 10:32:04 PM

I considered the Rosewill Thor, as well as the Cooler Master HAF X, and the Thermaltake Chaser Mk-I, but I'll look into these when I get a moment. The first two look pretty cool. Thanks for info and help.
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January 7, 2014 10:47:54 AM

I do have one topic of questions though. I've tried searching, but haven't really been able to find a concrete answers.
When the cpu and mobo say memory standard and memory types, let's say 1333/1600/1800(oc)/1866(oc)/2000(oc) etc, what does that mean exactly in terms of how high of ram to look for and how to use it?

Let's say I get the 1866 ram, does that mean I need to OC the mobo and make an adjustment in the cpus xmp in order for them to accept the 1866 speed? If that's the case, would it be better to just get 1600, seeing as I've never overclocked before and may be a bit hesitant when it comes to overclocking.

Thanks

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a b 4 Gaming
January 8, 2014 2:26:46 AM

Faster memory works faster. So If there is cheap 24MHz memoru and mobo supports faster memory it is good or better than 1600MHz. Faster scales really giid with 1150 cpu. Look some tests or something if want more info.

Xeon is really good cpu here where I live they are same price Xeon 1230V3 and 4560K
You need to OC i5 over 4.5GHz before it gets faster than Xeon.
Xeon is same cpu as 4770 just 100MHz slower and it do have HT + 8 treads.

Look this .
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...
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January 8, 2014 1:33:57 PM

AxlFone said:
Faster memory works faster. So If there is cheap 24MHz memoru and mobo supports faster memory it is good or better than 1600MHz. Faster scales really giid with 1150 cpu. Look some tests or something if want more info.

Xeon is really good cpu here where I live they are same price Xeon 1230V3 and 4560K
You need to OC i5 over 4.5GHz before it gets faster than Xeon.
Xeon is same cpu as 4770 just 100MHz slower and it do have HT + 8 treads.

Look this .
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...

Yeah, I looked into the Xeon, seems pretty good, but I can get the 4770k around here for the about the same price, +/- ~$10.

I did read that the scaling with the Haswells is really good for 2133+, but I was just curious if it says 1866(oc), 2133(oc), 2400(oc), etc, if that just means I need to change the bios so the mobo can fully read the memory, rather than defaulting the max standard of 1600, and if there's anything I need to do regarding the XMP.

Thanks
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a b 4 Gaming
January 9, 2014 4:11:15 AM

Banonzii said:
AxlFone said:
Faster memory works faster. So If there is cheap 24MHz memoru and mobo supports faster memory it is good or better than 1600MHz. Faster scales really giid with 1150 cpu. Look some tests or something if want more info.

Xeon is really good cpu here where I live they are same price Xeon 1230V3 and 4560K
You need to OC i5 over 4.5GHz before it gets faster than Xeon.
Xeon is same cpu as 4770 just 100MHz slower and it do have HT + 8 treads.

Look this .
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...

Yeah, I looked into the Xeon, seems pretty good, but I can get the 4770k around here for the about the same price, +/- ~$10.

I did read that the scaling with the Haswells is really good for 2133+, but I was just curious if it says 1866(oc), 2133(oc), 2400(oc), etc, if that just means I need to change the bios so the mobo can fully read the memory, rather than defaulting the max standard of 1600, and if there's anything I need to do regarding the XMP.

Thanks


Memory compability is issue. If there is OC for faster memory. It means it sould work ,but it is not always working.
For sure thing take mobo that has memory you are buying in suported memory list.
I have old 2GB sticks drom my X-58Build and they are 1333 3 sticks and 3 1600MHz. Before I did buy 1333MHz kit I did OC 1600 kit over 1800MHz. And then I did just put new 3 sticks in and booted it. And 3 1333MHz did work at 1800MHz awail but then it did give blue sxreen. Then I judt did drop them to 1600Mhz. And all did work just fine. So most sticks you can OC from 1333 to 1600MHz. And sure it is good to try OC 1600 to 1866 or more.

XMP gives just faster way to make faster memory settings. But you do better with own bios settings. It just takes some to find stable settings. So easy way is buy 2400MHz kit and then it will work as fast as it can work.
And with faster memory I thing 4770k is good choice. But any cpu works here. Memory is more depending mobo than cpu. Hasswells do have memory controller on cpu but mobo support is what you need. For use XMP and so on..

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January 9, 2014 5:48:46 PM

AxlFone said:
Banonzii said:
AxlFone said:
Faster memory works faster. So If there is cheap 24MHz memoru and mobo supports faster memory it is good or better than 1600MHz. Faster scales really giid with 1150 cpu. Look some tests or something if want more info.

Xeon is really good cpu here where I live they are same price Xeon 1230V3 and 4560K
You need to OC i5 over 4.5GHz before it gets faster than Xeon.
Xeon is same cpu as 4770 just 100MHz slower and it do have HT + 8 treads.

Look this .
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...

Yeah, I looked into the Xeon, seems pretty good, but I can get the 4770k around here for the about the same price, +/- ~$10.

I did read that the scaling with the Haswells is really good for 2133+, but I was just curious if it says 1866(oc), 2133(oc), 2400(oc), etc, if that just means I need to change the bios so the mobo can fully read the memory, rather than defaulting the max standard of 1600, and if there's anything I need to do regarding the XMP.

Thanks


Memory compability is issue. If there is OC for faster memory. It means it sould work ,but it is not always working.
For sure thing take mobo that has memory you are buying in suported memory list.
I have old 2GB sticks drom my X-58Build and they are 1333 3 sticks and 3 1600MHz. Before I did buy 1333MHz kit I did OC 1600 kit over 1800MHz. And then I did just put new 3 sticks in and booted it. And 3 1333MHz did work at 1800MHz awail but then it did give blue sxreen. Then I judt did drop them to 1600Mhz. And all did work just fine. So most sticks you can OC from 1333 to 1600MHz. And sure it is good to try OC 1600 to 1866 or more.

XMP gives just faster way to make faster memory settings. But you do better with own bios settings. It just takes some to find stable settings. So easy way is buy 2400MHz kit and then it will work as fast as it can work.
And with faster memory I thing 4770k is good choice. But any cpu works here. Memory is more depending mobo than cpu. Hasswells do have memory controller on cpu but mobo support is what you need. For use XMP and so on..



Got it. Thanks a lot for the assistance, really appreciate it.
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