Seiki 39" 4k a good choice?

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Trying to decide if the 4k 39" Seiki monitor is a best option for $500.

I am considering purchasing this for my computer monitor:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DOPGO2G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

It's Seiki's 39" 4k TV. It has limitations one being its rather large dimensions along with a 1.4 HDMI connection limiting it to 30hz at 2k/4K resolutions. 1080 resolution is at 120hz and even higher for 720. I don't usually play games at 1080p, or even need to, so this is no loss. Besides, I do not play many games and instead do more art and writing.

My biggest concern is whether there are better solutions at this price point. Most of the reviews are relatively positive and often very detailed about their performance as a computer monitor. The size and 2k/4k resolutions are a big bonus since I miss the days when I could do that with my older, heavier, but beautiful CRT's (2k, not 4k). Currently I run dual 22in. monitors that are old; 8 years. Their max resolution is 1680x1050 making graphic work cumbersome along with writing and reading documents tedious. I had to rotate one monitor to portrait using some very unconventional rigging to keep it in place so I could read and write documents.

Essentially I am just curious as to what options I may have overlooked by considering the above mentioned 4k option. Considering my current setup I can obviously live with less but this will be a purchase that will not be repeated for a long time and I want to make the best informed choice I can.

My basic rig is a 7850 Radeon w/2gb, an i5-3570 cpu, 24gb ram. Thanks for any help.

On a side note, would it be worth running an old 8800gts in my system? I have read topics on it but can not decide if it's worth the trouble.
Thanks!

 
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8800 GTS is a much older and slower card then a Radeon 7850.

That TV doesn't review very well, even for use as a computer monitor. While it is the cheapest 4K option available, it just isn't a hiqh quality LCD to begin with. It would be poor at color reproduction if that matters to your work. If you just want a giant screen to read and write documents, it should be fine.
 
get a 1440p monitor at that resolution 30 hz will be so horribly laggy input wise . my 1440p at 60hz felt awkward, after I upped it to 96hz it was awesome and looks better than my samsung monitor for sure.

I got mine for here, no import fees etc and no dead pixesl. its a little higher at the moment, I got mine for 289.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121232555003?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

but the max resolution for the 8800gts is 2560x1600.
 

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Color reproduction would be relatively important even though I do not do graphic design for a living anymore. I suppose if I had to be honest I am thinking more about getting rid of smaller monitors with very limited capabilities even when compared with todays cheap 22".



 


get a good 1440p they look super color wise, http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-korean-pls-monitor-club-qnix-x-star this site has a good read on these two types of monitors, crossovers are good as well,

I believe they use apple or samsung pls displays so they arent some junk quality wise( besides the limited) bezel functions)
 

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I am completely unfamiliar with the majority of non-standard brands out there, but I did a search and found this and would like an opinion on it as a dual monitor setup:

http://www.amazon.com/QNIX-QX2710-DPort-Perfect-Pixel/dp/B00FYMCSYA/ref=sr_1_27?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389114990&sr=1-27&keywords=27"+ips+monitor+1440

Thank you for your help with this problem.



 



the only bad things is the warranty of only one year and having to ship it back. most people have very good luck with them.

also the viewing angle is super
 
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Thank you for the help. Now I just need to decide if getting two is the right choice or if I can find them for a bit less!




 


for me amazon was more expensive but sometimes they come from CA etc where they were already imported and possibly paid VAt fees which is why they are priced higher. ebay for me was cheaper, plus the one you linked only one of the ports will output 1440p so the other ports are useless.

They will be a little bit higher since the holidays just passed but keep looking, they will be under 300 in some cases

plus shipping from korea expedited for free and quick, got it in 5 days
 

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The only downside is I want two monitors but I only have one dual DVI port.

Edit: It does have two display ports, I was looking at the wrong monitor specs...
 

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Hey!

Just wanted to throw two cents in here! I just got the Seiki 4k 39 inch, and I've gotta say that it makes a fantastic computer monitor. The 30Hz is literally the only downside. Otherwise color quality (after some playing around in settings) sharpness, gamut, and panel quality all seem superb to me. And I've gotta say, within an hour of using it, the 30Hz refresh stopped bothering me entirely.

A note about required video hardware; don't believe half of what people tell you about what you need in order to run a 4k feed. I'm currently using my old Asus Radeon HD 6850 - a video card which was mid-range at best almost four years ago when it came out. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but for anyone looking to get 4k going, all you really need is a decent video card with display port and an active displayport to HDMI adapter. That's it. Don't let people who haven't tried tell you otherwise.

Would I be able to run a high end game at Ultra Settings with this? Nope. Would I be able to run it on this video card on a 1080p monitor? Nope! Am I going to lose some gaming graphics performance because I'm outputting UHD? Yes, but not a significant amount. As far as I've seen all my regular games run with the same settings I was able to do in eyefinity beforehand.
 

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I bought this monitor, too and am quite happy. Had to get software to set my refresh rate to get this thing to run at 120hz @ 1080p and lower. So far I am really enjoying this montior. I keep it at 1080p during general computer task then switch to 3840x when I use my graphics programs.
 

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Hey Makit3d - What software did you run to get the 120hz refresh rate? I always use my Seiki 4k in the 4k mode, but it would be nice to try it out at 1080p 120hz - I have not been able to get it to successfully do this myself
 

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Actually just update the firmware from seiki, (download, put on usb stick, menu 0 0 0 0, update software) the new firmware makes it so you don't have to hack it
 

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Thought it would be helpful to update my time with this monitor.

After over a year using it I feel it wasn't a bad choice but there are caveats to the this particular monitor (actually, t.v.).

It would be easier to list them.

Pros:
Large screen.
I'm getting older and my vision is waning. A larger screen makes it easier to work on details or reading long documents.

2k/4k resolution.
I don't often use the higher resolutions simply because it is not necessary most of the time. When I do it is "a w e s o m e"! Double the resolution of 1920x makes it easy to work on large 3d scenes especially when they become complex. When viewing or creating documents it becomes very easy to deal with several at a time while creating another.

Games.
My system is fast enough that I can run most games relatively well at 1920x. Before I had dual 23" monitors that only had resolutions up to 1680x and at 23" they were a bit small for almost everything. With a 39" screen three feet away at 1920x resolution with a refresh of 123hz....oh, heavenly beer! Wonderful.


Cons.
Large screen. If you are not far enough away from this beast it can actually cause eye strain. With my other monitors I could get relatively close, even in a dark room, with little to no eye strain. The size of this thing just sucks up your peripheral vision if you are less than three feet away. If it is dark it can cause eye strain that can lead to some really nasty headaches.

Resolution and ease of setup.
Out of the box it will NOT achieve 1920 x 1080 with a refresh of better than 60hz. Probably not more than 30hz. You have to use the CRU utility mentioned in a much earlier post in this thread. The latest versions (1.3x at this posting time) makes it relatively easy to do but it still has to be done. Also, your video card brand (nvidia/ati) will force you to make other changes. These aren't necessarily difficult or complex but, again, this creates a situation that prevents an easy out-of-the-box experience. You have to work at this thing to get it setup right.

Refresh rates.
At 1920x1080 you can achieve a refresh of 123 hz and you almost have to. Others who have this monitor may not have my particular problem but at less than 123hz this monitor will go black (reset) for about 4-5 seconds. At 123hz this problem is overcome. At less than 1920x it always happens even if the refresh rate is 123hz. If you play games at less than 1920x you will want to consider something else unless you feel comfortable over-driving this thing to well over 123hz to prevent the blackouts.


There are times I feel I should have waited until the new standards made it possible to run a 4k monitor at 60hz or better. However, I have come to realize that 4k, while fantastic for gaming if you have the power to push the pixels, is great it serves the user better with a larger monitor to overcome the very small text (you have to increase it to over 100% to be readable which creates problems with some software) or too much screen space for the size of the monitor. For those who have dealt with this problem while working in CAD, 3d, creating documents or something similar you probably understand what I mean.

In the end the benefits of having this thing as my main monitor (3 screens with 2 vid cards) has far outweighed the negative. At 1920 resolution with a refresh of 123hz it's beautiful. After taking time to work out the colors and such it has proven to be a better than adequate monitor for grahics work.

I am actually considering buying another with the newer hdmi standard so I can run it at 4k/60hz (when needed). Bliss.