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January 7, 2014 7:50:52 AM

Hello I have a gtx 650 ti and when playing minecraft I get around 300-500 fps but when I use fraps or dxtory to record it drops.

With dxtory I get around 100 fps but it is not smooth.

with fraps it locks at 50.

- Could this be that the gtx 650 ti can't handle 1920 by 1080?

- Could this be my harddrive isn't good for recording?

- could this be my cpu I know minecraft is very cpu dependent I have a fx 8320

I talked to someone else that plays minecraft and has a gtx 650 ti he said he was getting around 700 fps on far and when he records he gets around 500 fps - he said he has a i5 / not sure the type. So maybe it's my cpu?
January 7, 2014 7:59:32 AM

Programs such as Fraps and Dxtory use your CPU to do the recording, which is known to be quite the FPS killer.

Your best bet is to try Nvidia's Shadowplay software (built into the Geforce Experience program), which instead uses your graphics card to record, and only takes about 6-10% of your FPS away. Give it a shot, the quality's not the best and it's still in beta so there may be a bug here or there.
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January 7, 2014 8:04:53 AM

Your using cpu intensive programs to screen record with, that will be the reason for such big drops in FPS. Only option If you want to keep your frame rate as high as possible is maybe get a capture card ? I know there made for Consoles but they work great on PC aswell!
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January 7, 2014 8:46:15 AM

houldendub said:
Programs such as Fraps and Dxtory use your CPU to do the recording, which is known to be quite the FPS killer.

Your best bet is to try Nvidia's Shadowplay software (built into the Geforce Experience program), which instead uses your graphics card to record, and only takes about 6-10% of your FPS away. Give it a shot, the quality's not the best and it's still in beta so there may be a bug here or there.


I tried using shadowplay but the recording indicator doesn't show up and wont let me record which is weird considering it's for gtx 600+ series
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January 7, 2014 8:47:15 AM

houldendub said:
Programs such as Fraps and Dxtory use your CPU to do the recording, which is known to be quite the FPS killer.

Your best bet is to try Nvidia's Shadowplay software (built into the Geforce Experience program), which instead uses your graphics card to record, and only takes about 6-10% of your FPS away. Give it a shot, the quality's not the best and it's still in beta so there may be a bug here or there.


Also if I got the gtx 780 would it make a difference in the fps drops I would have even though fraps uses the cpu?
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January 7, 2014 8:55:18 AM

corpe4 said:
houldendub said:
Programs such as Fraps and Dxtory use your CPU to do the recording, which is known to be quite the FPS killer.

Your best bet is to try Nvidia's Shadowplay software (built into the Geforce Experience program), which instead uses your graphics card to record, and only takes about 6-10% of your FPS away. Give it a shot, the quality's not the best and it's still in beta so there may be a bug here or there.


Also if I got the gtx 780 would it make a difference in the fps drops I would have even though fraps uses the cpu?


It would make a huge difference... you would get a lot more FPS because they card is so much better then the 650. But you don't need a gtx 780 for minecraft ....
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January 7, 2014 9:21:32 AM

Trimax said:
corpe4 said:
houldendub said:
Programs such as Fraps and Dxtory use your CPU to do the recording, which is known to be quite the FPS killer.

Your best bet is to try Nvidia's Shadowplay software (built into the Geforce Experience program), which instead uses your graphics card to record, and only takes about 6-10% of your FPS away. Give it a shot, the quality's not the best and it's still in beta so there may be a bug here or there.


Also if I got the gtx 780 would it make a difference in the fps drops I would have even though fraps uses the cpu?


It would make a huge difference... you would get a lot more FPS because they card is so much better then the 650. But you don't need a gtx 780 for minecraft ....


Sorry, what? If both your CPU and GPU allow you to go up to 300fps individually, then a recording program is introduced, the GPU is going to be held back by the CPU no matter what. Adding a 780 won't increase performance during recording.

Also, regarding Shadowplay, did you try it with Minecraft in windowed mode or full screen (press Alt + Enter)? I believe it only works in full screen mode as it is.
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January 7, 2014 10:08:38 AM

Trimax said:
corpe4 said:
houldendub said:
Programs such as Fraps and Dxtory use your CPU to do the recording, which is known to be quite the FPS killer.

Your best bet is to try Nvidia's Shadowplay software (built into the Geforce Experience program), which instead uses your graphics card to record, and only takes about 6-10% of your FPS away. Give it a shot, the quality's not the best and it's still in beta so there may be a bug here or there.


Also if I got the gtx 780 would it make a difference in the fps drops I would have even though fraps uses the cpu?


It would make a huge difference... you would get a lot more FPS because they card is so much better then the 650. But you don't need a gtx 780 for minecraft ....


Not getting it for minecraft getting it to record/stream battlefield 4
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January 7, 2014 10:11:35 AM

houldendub said:
Trimax said:
corpe4 said:
houldendub said:
Programs such as Fraps and Dxtory use your CPU to do the recording, which is known to be quite the FPS killer.

Your best bet is to try Nvidia's Shadowplay software (built into the Geforce Experience program), which instead uses your graphics card to record, and only takes about 6-10% of your FPS away. Give it a shot, the quality's not the best and it's still in beta so there may be a bug here or there.


Also if I got the gtx 780 would it make a difference in the fps drops I would have even though fraps uses the cpu?


It would make a huge difference... you would get a lot more FPS because they card is so much better then the 650. But you don't need a gtx 780 for minecraft ....


Sorry, what? If both your CPU and GPU allow you to go up to 300fps individually, then a recording program is introduced, the GPU is going to be held back by the CPU no matter what. Adding a 780 won't increase performance during recording.

Also, regarding Shadowplay, did you try it with Minecraft in windowed mode or full screen (press Alt + Enter)? I believe it only works in full screen mode as it is.


I tried it in both but fullscreen and windowed mode - so your saying if I get a gtx 780 my fx 8320 is going to hold me back?
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January 7, 2014 10:36:06 AM

I've found some nice recording software bundled in with the likes of MSI's Afterburner (In an earlier version, that is). You just bind the recording to a key, or key combo, and it'll kick the recording on and off. I believe they use the GPU as a capture card since the whole program is built around the GPU. Take a look around in the settings. I never really noticed a bad FPS drop using it, but then again, at the time, I had a GTX 660 SLI setup.

That being said it's very likely it's your CPU. However your processor is an 8 physical core chip, and there's virtually no program currently that is designed to utilize 8 cores concurrently. You can always set the affinity of your Minecraft, and Fraps processes to run on separate ends of the chip (Minecraft for cores 0-3, and Fraps 4-7). In this manner, they'd be theoretically unimpeded by one another.

Couple new things for you to try, I suppose. Hopefully you'll figure it out. However, the 650ti/FX 8320 may not be powerful enough to handle the load gracefully. Although they certainly should be for something as lightweight as vanilla Minecraft.

http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-set-pr...
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January 7, 2014 2:03:58 PM

Powerbolt said:
I've found some nice recording software bundled in with the likes of MSI's Afterburner (In an earlier version, that is). You just bind the recording to a key, or key combo, and it'll kick the recording on and off. I believe they use the GPU as a capture card since the whole program is built around the GPU. Take a look around in the settings. I never really noticed a bad FPS drop using it, but then again, at the time, I had a GTX 660 SLI setup.

That being said it's very likely it's your CPU. However your processor is an 8 physical core chip, and there's virtually no program currently that is designed to utilize 8 cores concurrently. You can always set the affinity of your Minecraft, and Fraps processes to run on separate ends of the chip (Minecraft for cores 0-3, and Fraps 4-7). In this manner, they'd be theoretically unimpeded by one another.

Couple new things for you to try, I suppose. Hopefully you'll figure it out. However, the 650ti/FX 8320 may not be powerful enough to handle the load gracefully. Although they certainly should be for something as lightweight as vanilla Minecraft.

http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-set-pr...


Yes I already tried changing the affinity but when I right click fraps.exe/set affinity it gives me this error

http://gyazo.com/23ce5db4b51ae294771fe83cdaa9ccd0

I can only change the priority.

- Clicked show processes from all users now I can change it - Ill update if what you said helps.

Update: Did what you said for the affinity still didn't change anything/ download the msiafterburner beta that I think you mensioned.
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