A10 Kaveri or My Plan

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All hard drives fail. Be they Western Digital or Seagate (or other competitors such as Hitachi, Samsung etc). They all end up in the same place...
I would do neither.

One would buy a Kaveri or similar for the superior integrated graphics.
Once you install a stronger discrete graphics card, that advantage is lost, and you are stuck with a less efficient cpu.

On your newegg build, I think your budget allocations are off.

You are spending more on the motherboard than either the cpu or the graphics card.

I might budget $100 for a motherboard, $150 for a cpu, and $300 for a graphics card.
The graphics card is all important for gaming.
Any motherboard that supports your cpu will perform about the same. It is the cpu, not the motherboard that matters.
Look for a R9-280X or a GTX770.

The FX-6300 is a decent budget gaming cpu.
Any stronger, and I might look at a $180 i5-3350P and a $55 B75 based motherboard.

You will also need a psu. 600w should do it.
 

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I already have a psu i bought back on black friday, its 500 Watts , I am NOT doing another one. I refuse to do any Intel or Nvidia products. If my budget allows i will do a psu upgrade, the motherboard i may change but it must be a 990FX board at least, as i need a front usb3 header for my case

And i chose the one i did for its features , if i ever want to do 3 way crossfire id have the ability too down the road. if i so chose

and i chose 500w cause power watt calcs i used were saying 400-440 watt usage , at full load / full tdp
 

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The motherboard and power supply are the two most important pieces of any build. They are the foundation in which to build on. You need a strong foundation. The video card is the 3rd most important thing if gaming is the main concern. If not, then the cpu would be the 3rd most important piece.

You could have the greatest video card in the world but it would do you no good if your psu and mobo are crappy. Getting the best psu and mobo allows for maximum upgradability, longevity, and stability for your system.
 

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If you are comtemplating buying Dual Graphics right off the bat, you are probably better off with getting a non APU and a dGPU. Dual Graphics is just badly optimized now with a lot of dropped and runt frames with high frame time variance.

You would only pair a dGPU with an APU if you get that dGPU after the fact; i.e I buy a A10-7850K now so I can at least game and buy a GTX 760 later.
 

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I dont plan to do dual graphics right now, nowhere did i say i was right away, i was just saying in the future, if i were to do Crossfire, id get a new card and power supply then

Or if my budget allows i will get a new psu anyway. if i can by the end of the month i can still send the 500w back to Amazon
 

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your spending too much on that mobo unless your getting an fx-8xxx or 9xxx series no need i have it for my 9370 dont need it for a 9600 get a sabertooth and a 8350 if you find it on sale
 

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Looking at your wishlist some more and you are definitely overpaying for hardware that isn't going to give a significant boost in performance. This would be faster for less.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ TigerDirect)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($142.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.92 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($339.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($112.13 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1075.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-07 16:00 EST-0500)
 

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I disagree with some of those brands. Regardless of price.
I cant go with that video card either. And i rather everything be ordered from one place :(

Somethings i chose cause they had red too...
Ill figure out the list, but somethings are staying the same

also a lot of prices are wrong

 

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ive had some friends say G.Skill isnt reliable
Some of Seagate's drives failed or made whirring noises on me
Gigabyte i honestly have no idea and would rather have an Asus board anyway
the cooler from cooler master doesnt look like it supports 2 fans on it like the Phantek on my list



 

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I maintain 23 PCs at home. They used to mine Bitcoin 24/7 now they mine Litecoin. I'm also old... I've been on Toms since the site started. I grew up in the 80s and 90s. I was part of the .com boom as well. The only reason I'm telling you this is to make a point.

All hard drives fail. Be they Western Digital or Seagate (or other competitors such as Hitachi, Samsung etc). They all end up in the same place (trash heap). What matters is the warranty as well as the performance/price. The rest is mostly based out of allegiances to a particular brand. Something which is, at its fundamental most fundamental level, absurd.

I've also had various Motherboards, over the course of my 33 years on this planet, Epox, Abit, Asus, Gigabyte, DFI, MSI etc etc etc I've owned one or several models of each brand. When it comes to an Intel system, I tend to use Asus motherboards. When it comes to an AMD system, I tend to use Gigabyte.

For an AM3+ build, I tend to recommend the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3. I have two of those boards (and a UD5 as well). They're solid motherboards. No reason to go for Asus when the 990FXA is better than the Asus equivalent. How do I know? As I said above... the machines I've built run 24/7 at 100% CPU load. You get to know a thing or two about reliability under those conditions.

I have used two of those Gigabyte boards, running 24/7 at 100% CPU load, for a year now. Overclocked no less. The way I see it... this screams reliability.

There are two predominant groups in these forums. The "Dude Bros" and the "g33ks". The "Dude Bros" will always follow what some other Dude Bro suggested to them. They tend to be very very active over on Reddit. They will always recommend a Core i5 CPU with an Asus motherboard and an nVIDIA Graphics card. If you question them on their choices.. they will have nothing more to say than "It's what gamers crave brah" (which is reminiscent of the movie Idiocracy). Taking advice from this lot is not recommended as they have no clue how this "stuff" actually works. They're brand conscious consumers (Beta Males/Females). Think "Apple User". Who yield to the authority of a perceived Alpha Male/Female. g33ks, on the other hand, share a disdain for authority (being Alpha-Omega in nature). g33ks tend to try the stuff out themselves, due to curiosity, as well as learn the fundamentals of the topic which they then address. g33ks fall in love with a topic and then learn everything there is to know about it. This is very time consuming and is likely why "Dude bros" can't handle it. You know... the popular Dude bro saying "TL;DR".

Trust the g33ks. Ignore the Dude bros.
 
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What about the other board on my mind from Asus though? the ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131851

 

logainofhades

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Whoever said gskill isn't any good doesn't know what they are talking about. All 3 of my desktops and my laptop are running Gskill ram. The desktops all have ripjaws of different speeds and sizes. I have used Gskill since the AM2 DDR2 days when I bought my Athlon X2 3600+ Brisbane. Since then I have had only 1 stick of ram from them fail on me and it was a couple years old at that point. It was probably my fault as well as it was also the first and only time I tried to overclock ram as well. :lol: The RMA process was fast and easy. The Gigabyte 990fxa-ud3 is the most reviewed AM3+ board on newegg. Over 1k reviews. :lol: I have used Gigabyte fairly often. Since the Thailand floods, all HDD companies have had quality issues. Most of my systems have Seagate and Samsung. Overall, I have had pretty good luck with them. The Coolermaster hyper 212 does support a second fan. It will come with a bracket for another if you do need one. I haven't needed one, myself. The 212 is the best cooler for the $$$ right now.
 

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I use G.Skill Ares 1866mhz 2x4GB RAM kit and I've been very happy with it.
I use a Gigabyte fm2+ A88Xm motherboard and I love it!
I have been very happy with my A10 also.
I am currently using hard drives from Toshiba, Western digital, and Seagate and I have had no issues with any of them(knock on wood)
I use ssds from Samsung, Adata, and even OCZ and I've been very happy with them.
I've never had any problems with my Kingston RAM in my other build.
I'm actually using an Intel motherboard and it has been solid.
You know I love my i7.

As you can see I use a lot of brands. Every brand is going to have a bad apple out there. But really just about all of the big brands are going to be mostly reliable. I wouldn't stress over it too much.