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January 7, 2014 4:50:25 PM

Okay.. So I am building my first computer. (Gaming Build) (No OC experience) I have made a list of all the parts. I've done some research, read the reviews, etc.. And I feel I've chosen
Quality parts for my first build.

I would just like to hear some opinions on this build. Is there something I could do better? Something that doesnt fit or I overlooked?

My budget is 1,500. And I'm right on the money with the list I have..
Keyboard, mouse, and monitor aren't in the budget. Already taken care of.


Also, I was thinking about buying all the parts at once.. (Newegg) Cause if something came to me "DOA" and I finally found out cause I put the last piece
of my PC together, I wouldnt be able to "RMA"?

Is that a bad idea? Opinions on that would be appreciated as well.

Build:
Processor - i5 4670k, 3.4 GHz, LGA 1150, 84W
- $240
SSD - Samsung 840 Pro Series, 2.5", 128GB
- $115
OS - Microsoft Windows 8.1 64 bit OEM
- $100
MB - MSI Z87-G45, LGA 1150, USB 3.0, ATX
- $160
Ram - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2x8) 240-pin DDR3 1333
- $150
PSU - Corsair HX Series, 850W, ATX12V
- $150
Drive - LITE-ONBlack SATA DVD-ROM Drive
- $22
GPU - Geforce GTX 770 2GB 256-Bite GDDR5
- $340
Network - Rosewill N900PCE Dual Band Wireless
- $34
HDD - Toshiba, 2TB, 7200 RPM, 64 MB Cache, 3.5"
- $85
Case - AZZA CSAZ- XT1 B (Full Tower)
- $105

1,501 (Taxes/shipping not included)

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January 7, 2014 5:05:20 PM

With your CPU would go at least to 1600 DRAM which is native to the 4670K, might look at the same RJs in 16008 or 9 or even 1866/9, and would swap mobo for the Asus Gryphon ($3 more at the Egg) or their Z87-Plus ($12 less) , Asus has the best handle on the Z87 and Haswell, besides, won't touch MSI mobos due to poor QC (don't like DOAs and failed within 30 days things), also might look for a CPU cooler, the Hyper 212 EVO is the best bang for the buck (about $35) and cools well up through about a 4.5 OC
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January 7, 2014 5:20:29 PM

Tradesman1 said:
With your CPU would go at least to 1600 DRAM which is native to the 4670K, might look at the same RJs in 16008 or 9 or even 1866/9, and would swap mobo for the Asus Gryphon ($3 more at the Egg) or their Z87-Plus ($12 less) , Asus has the best handle on the Z87 and Haswell, besides, won't touch MSI mobos due to poor QC (don't like DOAs and failed within 30 days things), also might look for a CPU cooler, the Hyper 212 EVO is the best bang for the buck (about $35) and cools well up through about a 4.5 OC


I appreciate the reply... But I honestly don't understand the majority of what you said <<< New guy! Gotta break it down barney style. Native? RJs? QC?
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January 7, 2014 5:20:52 PM

Purpose of this build?
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January 7, 2014 5:23:56 PM

realchaos said:
Purpose of this build?


Gaming. WoW. Any game that comes out thatlooks good. Streaming movies online.
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January 7, 2014 5:39:30 PM

You'll be fine with 2x4gb. Games do not even use 8gb, so 8gb is still plenty for games. You can always add more ram later anyways, as it's so easy to upgrade.
Also, to clarify what Tradesman1 was trying to say. He meant that 1333mhz RAM is not the typical RAM speed for Haswell. As you can see, the RAM you listed is rated at 1333mhz. He's recommending you to look at some G.Skill Ripjaws rated at 1600mhz with CAS 8, 1600mhz with CAS9, or 1866mhz with CAS9. He also wants you to consider the Asus Gryphon motherboard, which is only $3 more than the one you listed at Newegg, or the Asus Z87-Plus, which is $12 less than the one you listed, because Asus has the best motherboards for the Z87 chipset. Also, grab a cpu cooler (like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO) which performs great at a cheap price. It will allow you to overclock fairly well.
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January 7, 2014 6:06:04 PM

realchaos said:
You'll be fine with 2x4gb. Games do not even use 8gb, so 8gb is still plenty for games. You can always add more ram later anyways, as it's so easy to upgrade.
Also, to clarify what Tradesman1 was trying to say. He meant that 1333mhz RAM is not the typical RAM speed for Haswell. As you can see, the RAM you listed is rated at 1333mhz. He's recommending you to look at some G.Skill Ripjaws rated at 1600mhz with CAS 8, 1600mhz with CAS9, or 1866mhz with CAS9. He also wants you to consider the Asus Gryphon motherboard, which is only $3 more than the one you listed at Newegg, or the Asus Z87-Plus, which is $12 less than the one you listed, because Asus has the best motherboards for the Z87 chipset. Also, grab a cpu cooler (like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO) which performs great at a cheap price. It will allow you to overclock fairly well.



What would you recommend? 1600mhz CAS8/CAS9?or the 1866mhz CAS9? Im not really sure what it does.
And the cpu cooler.. would the stock that comes with it be a piece of junk or something? I'm new to building computers. and have just recently heard of "OC'. Not sure I will overclock if I don't need to.
I appreciate you simplifying it! Lmao.
and if its absolutely recommended, I will choose an asus motherboard

Other than that, is there anything else about my build I should change. I want to make sure I'm doing it right!
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January 7, 2014 6:22:52 PM

Haswell likes and scales well to faster DRAM - the Memory Controller is made to run ideally with 1600 DRAM, so called, native to 1600 - you are showing slower 1333 DRAM. As far as OCing goes, even if not thinking about it now, in 6 months a year down the road, you (many do anyway) may start thinking the system is slow compared to others you see, the ability to OC it and speed all up can sabve you from looking to get a new rig or faster CPU. Was also suggesting looking at better motherboard options, most all of the builders and IT folks I newtwork with are like me, they won't touch MSI, their sales have been steadily degrading for around 5 years now due to their poor Quality control - as an example while I don't build with their mobos, I still get more problem motherboard calls on their mobos than I do of any two of the other manufacturers
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January 8, 2014 3:09:20 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Haswell likes and scales well to faster DRAM - the Memory Controller is made to run ideally with 1600 DRAM, so called, native to 1600 - you are showing slower 1333 DRAM. As far as OCing goes, even if not thinking about it now, in 6 months a year down the road, you (many do anyway) may start thinking the system is slow compared to others you see, the ability to OC it and speed all up can sabve you from looking to get a new rig or faster CPU. Was also suggesting looking at better motherboard options, most all of the builders and IT folks I newtwork with are like me, they won't touch MSI, their sales have been steadily degrading for around 5 years now due to their poor Quality control - as an example while I don't build with their mobos, I still get more problem motherboard calls on their mobos than I do of any two of the other manufacturers


Okay thanks! I'll find 1600mhz ram then.

So I should probably equip my pc so its capable of oc later on? is my build list capable of overclocking no problem?
If not, what should I upgrade?


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January 8, 2014 5:10:53 PM

Do I absolutely have to get an extra cpu cooler??
Doesn't a cpu cooler come with the i5 4670k??
Is it a piece of junk or what??
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January 8, 2014 5:14:20 PM

Yes you can use the cooler that comes w/ the CPU, wouldn't OC with it, they aren't all that good
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January 8, 2014 5:20:52 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Yes you can use the cooler that comes w/ the CPU, wouldn't OC with it, they aren't all that good


Okay. So say in the future I will want to, since over clocking is a better solution then upgrades. I should probably get a better cooler?

Also. I took your advice. I went with a 1866mhz 2 x 8
And an asus Z87-plus mobo. Considering that and the cooler, would my build handle over clocking no problem?
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January 8, 2014 5:23:54 PM

Yes, should be good to go
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