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PC Build vs Alienware 17 w/ 770m vs Asus ROG g750

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January 7, 2014 9:16:54 PM

Hey guys I have a PC build I am thinking about buying, first; I was hoping I could get some information on whether all the parts will be completely compatible and if they will perform up to what I'm looking for (basically max setting with 60+ FPS on everything up to Crysis 3 and future). And overall opinion on the build.

Also I would REALLY prefer to get a laptop, I just had a baby girl not too long ago and with the wife and the baby I'm doing a lot of moving room to room etc. Also a laptop would be nice for going back to school.

So, my main dilemma is, whether these laptops are suitable enough and worth the extra few hundred $$ apart from building the following PC.

Also one further question exactly HOW upgradeable is the Alienware 17 as far as future graphics and even SLI (don't know if it's possible or not)


Cooler Master HAF X - High Air Flow Full Tower Computer Case with Windowed Side Panel and USB 3.0 Ports

Seagate Hybrid Drive ST2000DX001 2TB MLC/8GB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s NCQ 3.5" Desktop SSHD

ASUS GTX680-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

EVGA 100-W1-500-KR 500W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC 3 Year Warranty Power Supply Intel 4th Gen CPU Ready

Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS8G3D169DS3

Rosewill RCX-Z1 Long life ball bearing for over 45,000/hrs CPU Cooler

Intel Core i7-4770 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770

MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX High Performance CF Intel Motherboard

If anyone knows of places in this build that I can also keep gaming performance and save some money would also like suggestions there too.

But again; if you think the laptops will be worth the extra money and perform anywhere near this build let me know.

Thank you so much in advance sorry for the GIANT post!

P.S. System Price + Monitor is $1660
Alienware 17 w/ 770 is $1750
and Asus is $1600

Also; I can get a good deal on MSI or Sager laptops but I have heard bad reviews regarding the hardware and build in general and especially the cooling (constant overheating). And comments on those would be great as well.

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a b D Laptop
January 7, 2014 10:03:29 PM
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IMO the only reason to own a laptop is if you travel quite a bit. There is no way to get the same performance (or anywhere near it) for the same price range of a desktop. Few allow for upgrading or expanding to meet future needs
I think the HAF X is a little overkill if on a budget. A very nice mid tower case can be found for around $80-$120 there are some nice full towers in the $150 range
You can save some by going to an i5 4670k (I'll suggest a little more for the k model for slight future-proofing)
Change GTX 680 for GTX 770, better and about the same price
I'm not liking the motherboard choice either, only because it does not support SLI (the use of two NVidia or more graphics cards together) another consideration for future-proofing - here's what I might propose
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($344.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window XL (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($112.13 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1218.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-08 00:57 EST-0500)

I made quite a few changes but I did keep the PSU and the hard drive - for your consideration
January 7, 2014 10:37:47 PM

C12Friedman said:
IMO the only reason to own a laptop is if you travel quite a bit. There is no way to get the same performance (or anywhere near it) for the same price range of a desktop. Few allow for upgrading or expanding to meet future needs
I think the HAF X is a little overkill if on a budget. A very nice mid tower case can be found for around $80-$120 there are some nice full towers in the $150 range
You can save some by going to an i5 4670k (I'll suggest a little more for the k model for slight future-proofing)
Change GTX 680 for GTX 770, better and about the same price
I'm not liking the motherboard choice either, only because it does not support SLI (the use of two NVidia or more graphics cards together) another consideration for future-proofing - here's what I might propose
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($344.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window XL (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($112.13 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1218.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-08 00:57 EST-0500)

I made quite a few changes but I did keep the PSU and the hard drive - for your consideration


Would this build compete with the same build I made? And I didn't realize the MoBo I chose didn't support SLI, that is definitely important to me, because no matter what GPU I purchase I will eventually buy a second (to avoid buying a new GPU and wanting to x2 that as well). And how is ordering from this website (pcpartpicker.com)? Do you have to order and pay for shipping on each item separately? Or will they combine everything together such as a middleman purchaser? And add $500 for the Alienware 17 with gtx 770m wouldn't it perform almost equivalent?
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a b D Laptop
January 8, 2014 9:57:30 AM

That build has the potential to 'stomp' your build (if only through overclocking which I'll suggest not worrying about at first - that's also why no aftermarket cooling was chosen, that can come later when you feel the need for better performance)
The GTX 770 and GTX 770M aren't the same, this comparison might help some http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-770M-vs-GeForce-GTX... I think you'd need to look at a GTX 780M to get similar performance to the GTX 770.

I might also suggest upping the PSU wattage to 750 to avoid having to do that upgrade when adding another card for SLI (I know it doesn't help your budget)
I've never ordered through PCPartPicker although I believe it is possible, I've gotten in the rut of using a single retailer simply because it avoids confusion in case of having to RMA an item (I buy enough hardware that it's a concern). I can't really say how it works with PCPartPicker (if you do order through them, let me know how that works, I'm curious)
January 8, 2014 12:45:13 PM

Won't let me reply on my phone, so I hope you get a notification. :p 
Thank you so much by the way you have been a huge help.

And sorry for all the questions, but will i also need to but a CPU fan and thermal paste? And is there a cheaper way to get an OS besides Newegg that you know of? Monitor + OS jumps the price up to $1500.
a b D Laptop
January 8, 2014 1:25:04 PM

The stock cooler (with thermal compound printed on it) and fan will perform adequately for stock speeds of the CPU. When you decide overclocking would be beneficial, then you can look into aftermarket cooling. If you want to overclock right away then you would want thermal compound and better cooling.
Either run an open source OS (free) but gaming is limited then... I think the best option here is Windows 7 64bit Home Premium for $90
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