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need guidance for new graphics card: gtx 690, 780ti, r9 280x, r9 290/ 290x

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January 7, 2014 10:13:14 PM

Hey guys, I'm pretty new to Tom's but I do know a thing or two about gaming computer and hardware as I've built my own gaming rig. My current build is an i5 4670k on an MSI z87-GD65 with a corsair h100 water cooler, MSI GTX 660TI Power Edition, 8GB of 1600mhz ram (going to get 16GB of patriot viper 2400mhz), 850w power supply, windows 7 running on an SSD and a 1tb HDD, all in a NZXT phantom full tower. for my monitor i use a 28" vizio tv at 1360x768 resolution but i'll be getting a 1920x1080 144hz monitor in the near future. Sorry for the long intro, i just wanted ya'll to know my specifications so you could tell me the best card to get for my setup. I know the 690 is just 2 680's in sli and that the 780ti is the competitor for the 290x but i still don't know if which would be best considering price, and of course, Mantle. Mantle has really intrigued me so i'm not sure if the 280x, 290 or 290x would be best. sorry if i seem redundant guys i just want to be as specific as possible. Any sort of advice ya'll would want to give me would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
January 7, 2014 10:30:37 PM

1080p gaming = 290
1440p gaming = 290x
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January 7, 2014 10:42:36 PM

The 290X is only a competitor for the 780 Ti when run in "Uber" mode, which unfortunately is an unrealistic mode to use on a regular day-to-day basis. Even with a custom 290X, good luck finding one, the noise level is a concern. The 290X is cheaper, though.


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gamin...

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"MSI's GTX 780 Ti is almost too good to be true. The card comes overclocked out of the box, to 1020 MHz base clock, which, thanks to Boost 2.0, runs the card at 1144 MHz on average - higher than most other custom GTX 780 Ti cards. Compare this to the GTX 780 Ti reference board and it results in a significant 8% percent performance improvement, making it the fastest graphics card we ever tested. Yes, even faster than the dual-GPU HD 7990 and GTX 690. Compared to AMD's Radeon R9 290X, the difference is 16%, which is about as much as the R9 290X's lead over the previous-generation HD 7970 GHz.

What is even more amazing is that MSI has achieved these fantastic performance results without scorching temperatures or lots of fan noise...At just 30 dBA, the MSI GTX 780 Ti Gaming is quieter than most graphics cards, no matter their performance segment - and this is the fastest card we ever tested! I recently reviewed several GTX 780 Ti cards, by all the big players, and none are even close in noise levels. It really is a night and day difference, even more so when you start comparing this card to AMD's R9 290X flagship."
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gamin...
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January 7, 2014 11:06:14 PM

17seconds said:
The 290X is only a competitor for the 780 Ti when run in "Uber" mode, which unfortunately is an unrealistic mode to use on a regular day-to-day basis. Even with a custom 290X, good luck finding one, the noise level is a concern. The 290X is cheaper, though.


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gamin...

Quote:
"MSI's GTX 780 Ti is almost too good to be true. The card comes overclocked out of the box, to 1020 MHz base clock, which, thanks to Boost 2.0, runs the card at 1144 MHz on average - higher than most other custom GTX 780 Ti cards. Compare this to the GTX 780 Ti reference board and it results in a significant 8% percent performance improvement, making it the fastest graphics card we ever tested. Yes, even faster than the dual-GPU HD 7990 and GTX 690. Compared to AMD's Radeon R9 290X, the difference is 16%, which is about as much as the R9 290X's lead over the previous-generation HD 7970 GHz.

What is even more amazing is that MSI has achieved these fantastic performance results without scorching temperatures or lots of fan noise...At just 30 dBA, the MSI GTX 780 Ti Gaming is quieter than most graphics cards, no matter their performance segment - and this is the fastest card we ever tested! I recently reviewed several GTX 780 Ti cards, by all the big players, and none are even close in noise levels. It really is a night and day difference, even more so when you start comparing this card to AMD's R9 290X flagship."
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gamin...


Is the MSI version of the 290 loud and hot? the only reason I'm considering an AMD card is because of Mantle, otherwise i would definitely go withe the MSI 780ti. And by the time I'd be able to purchase one, I would hope all this Bitcoin stuff is over with and the r9 cards are more available
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January 8, 2014 7:05:45 AM

NonProfitAcorn said:
17seconds said:
The 290X is only a competitor for the 780 Ti when run in "Uber" mode, which unfortunately is an unrealistic mode to use on a regular day-to-day basis. Even with a custom 290X, good luck finding one, the noise level is a concern. The 290X is cheaper, though.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gamin...

Quote:
"MSI's GTX 780 Ti is almost too good to be true. The card comes overclocked out of the box, to 1020 MHz base clock, which, thanks to Boost 2.0, runs the card at 1144 MHz on average - higher than most other custom GTX 780 Ti cards. Compare this to the GTX 780 Ti reference board and it results in a significant 8% percent performance improvement, making it the fastest graphics card we ever tested. Yes, even faster than the dual-GPU HD 7990 and GTX 690. Compared to AMD's Radeon R9 290X, the difference is 16%, which is about as much as the R9 290X's lead over the previous-generation HD 7970 GHz.

What is even more amazing is that MSI has achieved these fantastic performance results without scorching temperatures or lots of fan noise...At just 30 dBA, the MSI GTX 780 Ti Gaming is quieter than most graphics cards, no matter their performance segment - and this is the fastest card we ever tested! I recently reviewed several GTX 780 Ti cards, by all the big players, and none are even close in noise levels. It really is a night and day difference, even more so when you start comparing this card to AMD's R9 290X flagship."
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gamin...


Is the MSI version of the 290 loud and hot? the only reason I'm considering an AMD card is because of Mantle, otherwise i would definitely go withe the MSI 780ti. And by the time I'd be able to purchase one, I would hope all this Bitcoin stuff is over with and the r9 cards are more available

Only a couple of the custom 290's have even been released to retailers. The Gigabyte 290 OC is $580 on Newegg, making a custom GTX 780 non-Ti a pretty good deal.

Mantle may be a good thing, its hard to say. For my editorial, I would bet on it not being widely adopted and a disappointment versus its potential. I would also question placing too much faith into AMD's software development team. Their extensive history of poor driver development and their lack of software innovation should be a concern that would temper one's optimism.
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January 8, 2014 7:15:32 AM

If you are really into BF4, and/or Thief which will come out soon, you can go for AMD.
But also other factors are your budget, and what you will play most of the time.

Mantle was post-poned for this month, so if it`s not a hurry for you to buy a GPU today (since you already have one), you might wait and see what impact Mantle has on BF4 in order to make an ideea how much better future games that support Mantle will run with AMD GPU`s.
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January 8, 2014 9:46:12 AM

17seconds said:
NonProfitAcorn said:
17seconds said:
The 290X is only a competitor for the 780 Ti when run in "Uber" mode, which unfortunately is an unrealistic mode to use on a regular day-to-day basis. Even with a custom 290X, good luck finding one, the noise level is a concern. The 290X is cheaper, though.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gamin...

Quote:
"MSI's GTX 780 Ti is almost too good to be true. The card comes overclocked out of the box, to 1020 MHz base clock, which, thanks to Boost 2.0, runs the card at 1144 MHz on average - higher than most other custom GTX 780 Ti cards. Compare this to the GTX 780 Ti reference board and it results in a significant 8% percent performance improvement, making it the fastest graphics card we ever tested. Yes, even faster than the dual-GPU HD 7990 and GTX 690. Compared to AMD's Radeon R9 290X, the difference is 16%, which is about as much as the R9 290X's lead over the previous-generation HD 7970 GHz.

What is even more amazing is that MSI has achieved these fantastic performance results without scorching temperatures or lots of fan noise...At just 30 dBA, the MSI GTX 780 Ti Gaming is quieter than most graphics cards, no matter their performance segment - and this is the fastest card we ever tested! I recently reviewed several GTX 780 Ti cards, by all the big players, and none are even close in noise levels. It really is a night and day difference, even more so when you start comparing this card to AMD's R9 290X flagship."
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gamin...


Is the MSI version of the 290 loud and hot? the only reason I'm considering an AMD card is because of Mantle, otherwise i would definitely go withe the MSI 780ti. And by the time I'd be able to purchase one, I would hope all this Bitcoin stuff is over with and the r9 cards are more available

Only a couple of the custom 290's have even been released to retailers. The Gigabyte 290 OC is $580 on Newegg, making a custom GTX 780 non-Ti a pretty good deal.

Mantle may be a good thing, its hard to say. For my editorial, I would bet on it not being widely adopted and a disappointment versus its potential. I would also question placing too much faith into AMD's software development team. Their extensive history of poor driver development and their lack of software innovation should be a concern that would temper one's optimism.


Yeah, I was afraid mantle wouldn't live up to it's expectations. But I do hope it does spark some sort of movement to move away from directX. Thanks for the help though man, if I see a good deal on a 780/ 780ti I'll get it or if I'm patient enough I may wait for the 20nm 800 serious later this year
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