GTX 770 va R9 290 both 4gb models.

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andyk1985

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Hi im looking at buying either a GTX 770 or a R9 290, the ones im looking at are both 4gb models and the R9 290 is about £50 more.

Which do you think would be better performance and which is better value for money.

I have heard the r9 290 runs pretty hot but with the Water cooling in the system would that help bring it down?

Alternatively if there is an alternative card at around the same price that out performs both I would be interested in that.

It would be in a system with:

i7-4820 3.7 OCed to 4.4
ASUS PX979
16GB Kingston HYPERX BEAST 2400MHz
Corsair 850w TXM-850
Corsair H100i CPU Cooler

Win 8.1 Pro 64bit

Cheers!
Andy
 
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The 290 is way better than the 770, it is in the same competitive tier as the 780 and is still better more often than not. Now in these benches it will be the lower memory models, but that will only affect the high resolution/multi monitor performances and even then it won't be incredibly drastic.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1068?vs=1037
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1068?vs=1036

Edit: as for heat the reference cooler cards for the 290 will be coming out very shortly to help beat the reference cooler. Water cooling won't help because that is for CPUs not gpus.

As for price I don't think crypto miners have inflated the price of 290s as bad as lower cards but still if your patient the reference coolers and price settling will help you out in the price per performance area
 
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Hi Andy,

The R9 290 is approximately 15%* faster than the GTX 770.

Agreed the R9 290 does run much hotter than the GTX 770. However, if you buy a card with a customer cooler like the ASUS DirectCU II range, it will run cooler and faster than the stock AMD card.

I'd recommend the R9 290, purely because it is a bit faster but you get Mantle support for future games like Battlefield 4 which I hear is a significant improvement in frame rate over DX11.

Hope this helps,
Paul.

 
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290 completely owns 770 hands down. If the price difference is 50 pounds then depending upon your budget feasibility go for 290. It will max out all the games at 1080 and 1440 and even 4K for some games. Now the GPU choice mostly depends upon your gaming requirements. If you want the extreme gaming at 1440p or 4K or are planning for 3 monitor set up, then you are better off with the highest end model of GPU. But in case you are interested in only 1080p gaming then a GTX 770 or R9 280X will be more than enough.
Here is a link for 290 review. - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7481/the-amd-radeon-r9-290-review/4
(It even surpasses the Titan in several cases)
Now to your cooling point. The newly launched Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X OC does an extremely awesome job at cooling. It decreases the temp a whooping 20 C form the reference card. - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-review-our-first-custom-cooled-290/4
This will serve you best. Also check out the ASUS 290 DC2 Top edition.
Hope this helps
 
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The reference models cooling is the biggest reason the cards don't perform as advertised. With a reall cooling system the card should act more true to advertisement and be the dominant card. As it is they can be frustrating but still better than a 770 just maybe less competitive with the 780
 
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Reference are the standard card manufactured by the AMD ATI and NVIDIA. Whereas then the other custom based mnaufacturers like ASUS, MSI, HIS puts him their custom cooler and OC a reference model. So in other way Reference - standard model while non-reference - custom based cooler and with more clock boost and OC version
 
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OK i found both cards suggested from the same site,

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-341-SP&groupid=701&catid=56
Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X "BF4 Edition" 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (11227-00-50G)

and

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-133-GI
Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 OC WindForce 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-R929OC-4GD)

Looking at the raw specs listed it seems the Gigabyte one has Core Speed of 40MHz faster and costs £10 more.

Obviously the cost between the two cards is virtually nothing so based purely on the 40MHz faster clock speed does that make it a better card? Has anyone got experience of both cards so can draw any conclusions.

Many thanks in advance!

Andy

 
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Well you could easily OC that extra 40 mhz into the saphire card to make them even and I'm not personally familiar with the cooling difference between the two so I would consider them about even. Based on history maybe leaning toward the gigabyte version
 
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Brilliant thanks for the info, I have some decision making to do now, if anyone else has any experience with either of these cards the more options the better!
 
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Unless you're running larger than 1080p resolutions, or multiple monitors in surround gaming. The 4GB models are useless. Your spending extra money for something your not using. The 2GB models run just as fast.
 
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At the moment I run two 1080 screens although one of those screens can go higher than 1080 but off the top of my head I cant remember how high. I would like to be able to output to a 3rd screen in 1080 at the same time ideally so that the Mrs can watch stuff streaming off the PC on the TV whilst I use the PC on a two screen display for other stuff like games etc.

Also the higher the AA the more memory is needed or have I got that wrong? My current card massively struggles to run anything about 1 or 2x AA
 
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AA filters are still a stuggle for GPU's including the 780 Ti's for some of the current gen titles. Games are optimized to only use about 1-1.5 GB's of VRAM. this will only go up when you start using higher resolution textures like Skyrim with 4k texture mods, in this circumstance the 4GB would be helpful. Personally I'd suggest a 2GB EVGA GTX 770 ACX. I don't know much about the Radeon family of GPU's so I can't suggest anything over there.
 
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That's what I thought, im also building a second system that's going to be slightly less powerful,

i7-4770 3.5 8bm cache
ASUS Z87M-PLUS
16GB Kingston HYPERX BEAST 2400MHz
Corsair 750w TXM-750
240gb ASUS SSD 830 Read / 810 write
Stock CPU Cooler

Win 8.1 Pro 64bit

I was thinking of putting the Gigabyte 770 OC'ed version in that.

http://www.ebuyer.com/510172-gigabyte-gtx-770-2gb-gddr5-7000mhz-dual-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-gv-n770oc-2gd

It will cost about £1350 including shipping and parts.

Thoughts?
 
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