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January 2014 - First Build - £1000 Tweak my build.

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January 8, 2014 7:41:26 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP, but I can hold on a bit if there are any imminent price drops or new releases.

Budget Range: £1000 give or take.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Video Editing, Streaming.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes (but do not include it in the price), from 15' laptop anything will be an upgrade. Don't want to go bigger than 24' even that might be bit too much.

Parts to Upgrade: It’d be a new build

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: No preference – whatever’s cheapest!

Location: London, UK

Parts Preferences: No preference – I care most for performance!

Overclocking: Not if it means tweaking to save money overall to upgrade GPU.

SLI or Crossfire: Initially don't plan to do so, would rather just upgrade when the card struggles, hope 4gb lasts.

Additional Comments: I would need compatibility checks be done. Also would it make big difference to go from Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB to Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB to save money? Same goes for going for Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz replaced Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz switch. Then again I am clueless when it comes to finer tweaks which is where I need your help. I am not quite sure which PSU to go for the one I included is just a random pick.
I don't mind saving money on the case, as long as it is a rectangular black sleek/plain look to it.

Last but not least I have my mind pretty set on Nvidia due to shadowplay it will save me having to purchase another hardrive for recording in RAID using other software, I can sink the money into GPU instead. Please let me know which type of card to get, loads of different GTX 770 listed by vendors, could maybe get even better card with some tweaking of build.

Partpicker draft List 1 : http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2xKzY
Partpicker draft List 2 : http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2xLHt

Not big difference between the two, but you get the idea, tweak away my path to brighter gaming era !

New build after first couple advice (no overclock or sli, but 4GB GPU)
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/pole/saved/3nmQ

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January 8, 2014 8:06:20 AM

Morning from the states ! Just a couple of thoughts on ur first build in no particular order.
1. Youtube "Newegg computer build parts 2&3" for the build itself. Gives you solid, step by step tutorial on the build AND Windows install. Very helpful
2. No bid difference between the Samsungs noted
3. I'd go with the latest i5, however if you are not intending to overclock, don't by the 'k' version. It is intended to be overclocked and you are paying extra for the option
4. Completely agree with you SLI / CF thoughts
5. Computer case is user preference - however I'd recommend against very cheap for a host of reasons
6. Good PSU brands: Corsair, Seasonic, XFX, antec. If not dual GPUing, 600 watts will be more than enough.
7. 8 GB RAM will be fine. 1600 is fine too. Yours seems expensive, but the pounds to dollars conversion makes my head hurt
8. SSD's are AWESOME ( i love mine ). You may consider the intel 180 GB or the crucial M4 256GB. Might save a little money to apply to GPU
9. Finally, a website on GPU's w/ benchmark and pricing (USD). http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Good Luck and Enjoy. Don't rush the build (set aside a good 4 hours) and you'll be enjoying your computer !!
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January 8, 2014 8:34:07 AM

I would probaby drop down to the 120GB Samsung EVO. Put your OS and apps on there, and media and games on the 1TB drive to keep the SSD running at optimal performance.

Everything else looks good though, you may want to consider the i7-4770 if you are doing video editing. Additionally, games are starting to become more multi-threaded so the i7 will last you longer. If OCing is not planned, you can stick with the stock cooler and an H87 motherboard. With the smaller SSD you should be able to get the i7 and not spend any extra, just a thought.
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January 8, 2014 9:40:45 AM

Cheers for the feedback so far Odiervr and Transmaniacon. Just few points answered no particular order.

1. How much of a difference will having my games on SDD vs having them 1TB drive make. If some applications and games run better on SDD might stick with larger one.

2. About i7 from the little I have read the main difference will be in render times, if that is the case I don't mind waiting bit longer as it is more of a hobby than for work. As for gaming, well if thats the case I might consider it, mostly stick to MMO, RTS, RPG, looking forward to Witcher 3.

3. How much of difference does cpu overclock make? The learning how to does not deter me just don't want to lower my components lifetime.

4. I guess I will stick with R4 case and just any power supply from the manufacturers you listed I guess.

5. Updated list : http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/pole/saved/3nmQ
This one saves money on SSD,CPU,PSU I get 4GB gtx 770 instead of 2GB. Is Gigabyte good version of the card?

PS: I think you can change currency of prices by changing the country in box top right corner on partpicker.
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January 8, 2014 9:56:58 AM

I think it depends on the game, you might have faster load times but actual game performance won't be affected.

The i7 will last longer, but in terms of gaming right now, the i5 and i7 are very close.

Overclocking can make a big difference. With the unlocked K CPUs, it is a very easy process and components are designed to support overclocking. Very high overclocks will reduce component lifetime, but a medium overclock, maybe 4.3-4.5Ghz is easily attainable and not very demanding.
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January 8, 2014 10:21:26 PM

Transmaniacon said:
I think it depends on the game, you might have faster load times but actual game performance won't be affected.

The i7 will last longer, but in terms of gaming right now, the i5 and i7 are very close.

Overclocking can make a big difference. With the unlocked K CPUs, it is a very easy process and components are designed to support overclocking. Very high overclocks will reduce component lifetime, but a medium overclock, maybe 4.3-4.5Ghz is easily attainable and not very demanding.

This, if you are interested in video rendering/heavy multitasking with program use such as AutoCAD I'd go with the I7. Otherwise, I'd stick with the i5!
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January 9, 2014 12:44:59 AM

I plan eventually having two screens one for gaming one for browsing watching streams and streaming myself, just thought I would mention it incase I am doing it wrong. Could you also confirm if my updated build (I might switch it with unlocked CPU) is fine atm like PSU for example. Cheers !
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January 9, 2014 4:56:34 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£223.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£80.00 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£69.98 @ Novatech)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£124.45 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (£299.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£73.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£87.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1002.48
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-09 12:55 GMT+0000)

Couple changes. If no overclock, drop the CPU cooler and switch to a H87 motherboard. I chose a better PSU and upgraded you to the i7-4770.
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January 9, 2014 10:20:54 AM

Fantastic Trans, right on the mark. Now if I wanted a overclock version of that build would this be it:

[PCPartPicker part list](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2yr6a) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2yr6a/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2yr6a/benchmarks/)

CPU | [Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770...) | £231.00 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-coole...) | £23.90 @ Ebuyer
Motherboard | [Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga...) | £131.00 @ Amazon UK
Memory | [G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f314900cl...) | £69.98 @ Novatech
Storage | [Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-d...) | £125.64 @ Amazon UK
Storage| [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-interna...) | £43.99 @ Amazon UK
Video Card | [Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn...) | £299.90 @ Amazon UK
Case | [Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdc...) | £73.98 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply | [Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-rm...) | £87.18 @ Scan.co.uk
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | £1086.57
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-09 18:18 GMT+0000 |
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January 9, 2014 10:47:10 AM

Yes that would be perfect.
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