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I've been researching for a few days for parts for building my first system. Right now I'm down to two options but I'm open to any extra advice.

1: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2y6t0
2: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2yrde

The difference between them is the cpu, motherboard, and video card. Any tweaks are appreciated. I'd like to keep it right under $1000. I'll be mostly playing games like WoW and BF4

Thanks in advance
 
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Definitely the first build. The i5 plus gtx 760 is a good combo. For the second build the gtx 770 is good but the FX 8320 would bottle neck it in games that are more CPU intensive. The 8320 is a good CPU but I wouldn't pair it up with such a powerful card if its going to bottle neck my gpu in some games.
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Definitely the first build. The i5 plus gtx 760 is a good combo. For the second build the gtx 770 is good but the FX 8320 would bottle neck it in games that are more CPU intensive. The 8320 is a good CPU but I wouldn't pair it up with such a powerful card if its going to bottle neck my gpu in some games.
 
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This is the way I look at it. If the 8320 bottle necks a mid-high end GPU now then chances are its going to bottle neck any other GPU you try to put in your system in the future so your upgrade path is fairly limited. If you go with the i5 4570 that wont bottle neck your 760/770 now then if later on you decide you want to buy a new GPU so you don't have to completely build a new PC you will have more options available. Maybe in 3-4 years when you replace your GPU your i5 might bottleneck it a little bit, but it wouldn't be as bad as if you went with the 8320 instead.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg

The i5 is still the better CPU right now in terms of gaming and in most games the i5 can keep a higher minimum fps which is pretty important. Yea the difference between 60 fps minimum on an i5 and a 50 fps minimum on an 8350 isn't that big of a deal now but what about later down the line when the i5s minimum is 40 and the 8350s is 30? Granted the minimum fps difference between the two CPUs isn't always as big of a gap as 10 fps but still the i5 out performs the 8350 in most games. Me personally I rather have the better more stable CPU but to each his own
 
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Pile Driver has actually come into its own as newer games have come out. It's the older games (that didn't bother using the the extra threads available) where PD suffers most.

The botom line is that most newer games are loading up the GPU and the CPU simply has to "keep up" with the GPU.

For single card systems, the the PD 8xxx series can keep up with any single card on the market now. The 990 chipsets PCIe bandwith limitations could create problems when PCIe 2.0 gets split to X8 with two beast cards, but 2.0 X16 still has plenty of bandwidth for any single card.

I have already taken this road. I had a Phenom II X6 @3.4 Ghz. I read benchmark numbers and all the "intel is the best gaming CPU" stuff and upgraded to my current Sandy i7 @4.2 Ghz.

Both systems drove a pair of 560's in SLI.

The most noticable difference was in my wallet....not in the games.


 
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Yea thats true that alot of older games don't utilize more then 2 cores. If more and more games start taking advantage of the i7s hyper threading and the FX 8350s 8 cores then both CPUs could have a series advantage over an i5 or anything in AMDs A10 series. The difference between pcie 2.0 and 3.0 isn't really that big of a deal. But the extra band with is nice. Was there any noticeable difference between your system? I have a Xeon e3 1230V3 ( 4th Gen quad core with hyper threading) its just a 100mhz slower then the i7 4770 with the same specs and performance. I paired that up with a gtx 770 lightning and it plows through everything I throw at it. As of right now I prefer Intel and NVIDIA but of AMD has a better deal next time around I would choose them over Intel
 
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No noticeable difference in daily use or gaming. -At least not in the games that I played, like BF3 and Crysis 2. I never got into skyrim but I played the non-modded game a little with both rigs and noticed no difference.

I render a lot of HD video and the i7 was a minute or two faster for ~15 min videos.

Intel still makes the strongest CPU's but most new games are making the GPU do most of the work. For gaming, I recommend getting all the GPU the budget allows for and then just make sure all the other parts can support the GPU.
 
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