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Building a new rig, need RAM advice and an overall check

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January 9, 2014 12:17:04 PM

Hey all! well, I sold off my old video card for the 280x, and I just listed my old system, minus the components I'm keeping, on facebook/craigslist and got a nibble.

I'm pretty set on the 4770/ASUS Pro/Samsung SSD

I need help with RAM and cooling. I'd like to try to stay under $150 for the RAM for 16 GB, but I want the whole system to be overclockable, moderately.

Any thoughts? Also, if i find the 4770K for $301 after tax, I should ump on it, right? And the ASUS Z87 Pro for $167 after all current rebates and after tax...jump on that, too?

What am I forgetting?

To buy:

CPU: i7 4770K
Mobo: ASUS X87 Pro
RAM: ?? I have the Crucial Ballistix 2x8 GB chosen now, but I'm not sure that's a good one?
CPU Cooling: ?? Not sure, would prefer to stay around $20-$30, and not go too crazy, unless it;s wroth it
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro SSD 256GB

Here's what I already have:

Case: Coolermaster HAF 922 case with stock fans
Video Card: 280x (XFX Dual D)
Sound card: Some old soundblaster card from a few computers ago that hooks into a 5.1 system
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-750X 750W
Optical: Philips DVD-RW, probably going to upgrade to BD soon
Dell Ultrasharp 3007 WFP-HC 2560x1600 monitor
Win 7 Ultimate

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January 9, 2014 12:22:39 PM

RAM is RAM, so if you found a good price for 1600MHz memory, it doesn't really matter what it is. If that RAM is at a price you like, get it!

As for cooling, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is always a favorite, keeps mine pretty cool.

Onto the motherboard though, is that supposed to say Z87? And does it not have the 8 channel sound ports in the back, do you need the sound card? Unless it's a good one of course lol
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January 9, 2014 12:29:21 PM

I was leaning towards the coolermaster 212 EVO, so that's good to know. And yes, Z87, not X. As for the sound on the back, I'll have to try foregoing the sound card.

RAM, though, aren't there some that are built better to withstand a little overclocking? I dunno, I mean, for that CPU/MOBO, i guess I don't know my options. I obviously want it to not be the bottleneck on my system, so...yeah
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January 9, 2014 12:33:20 PM

jcarrey4 said:
I was leaning towards the coolermaster 212 EVO, so that's good to know. And yes, Z87, not X. As for the sound on the back, I'll have to try foregoing the sound card.

RAM, though, aren't there some that are built better to withstand a little overclocking? I dunno, I mean, for that CPU/MOBO, i guess I don't know my options. I obviously want it to not be the bottleneck on my system, so...yeah


Problem is when you overclock the CPU, the RAM needs to be clocked lower. And overclocking RAM doesn't really increase performance very much, unless you use an integrated graphics chip.

And you won't run into bottlenecks with DDR3 RAM if you're doing just moderate overclocks, so no worries :) 
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January 9, 2014 12:49:14 PM



HiTechObsessed said:
jcarrey4 said:
I was leaning towards the coolermaster 212 EVO, so that's good to know. And yes, Z87, not X. As for the sound on the back, I'll have to try foregoing the sound card.

RAM, though, aren't there some that are built better to withstand a little overclocking? I dunno, I mean, for that CPU/MOBO, i guess I don't know my options. I obviously want it to not be the bottleneck on my system, so...yeah


Problem is when you overclock the CPU, the RAM needs to be clocked lower. And overclocking RAM doesn't really increase performance very much, unless you use an integrated graphics chip.

And you won't run into bottlenecks with DDR3 RAM if you're doing just moderate overclocks, so no worries :) 


Hmm. ok. Thank you for your help!

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January 9, 2014 12:54:17 PM

Another dumb question, actually. the 4770K says it supports 1600 RAM. The MOBO says a large amount of different ones. Do I need to go 1600? How does one qualify for, like, 2400? Would I want that? :)  I realize that's probably a silly question, but really, at 1600, RAM is not a bottleneck?
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January 9, 2014 12:57:20 PM

And while we're at it, maybe i should just go 2x4GB for now and upgrade to 4x4GB sometime later...some places are saying 8GB is a good spot righ tnow, but if 16 becomes necessary, I have 4 DIMMs to work with...so...start small, eh?
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January 9, 2014 1:00:15 PM

jcarrey4 said:
Another dumb question, actually. the 4770K says it supports 1600 RAM. The MOBO says a large amount of different ones. Do I need to go 1600? How does one qualify for, like, 2400? Would I want that? :)  I realize that's probably a silly question, but really, at 1600, RAM is not a bottleneck?


Nope, it will not bottleneck, I promise lol The 2400+ RAM you see is for bling. It will improve performance, but negligibly. Like I'm talking a 2-4 fps increase going from 1600 to 3000 negligible. If you are focusing more on video/photo editing, would be more worth it, but not for gaming.

The motherboard is just listing what it is rated to run RAM at, so you could plug and play whatever it says on the box, but again this is advertising/marketing.

But by all means, if you want 2400MHz RAM, I won't stop you. Just wanted you to know the facts. I've seen people think that 2400 will give them 50% better performance, since it is 'twice as fast' lol
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January 9, 2014 1:02:21 PM

jcarrey4 said:
And while we're at it, maybe i should just go 2x4GB for now and upgrade to 4x4GB sometime later...some places are saying 8GB is a good spot righ tnow, but if 16 becomes necessary, I have 4 DIMMs to work with...so...start small, eh?


Wish I woulda seen this before my reply lol

Yeah, 8GB is plenty for gaming right now, even at max settings. I have 2 sticks of 4gb with 2 open slots for that same reason.

Now, some will tell you just put 16gb in it now, then you're not stuck at 32, but by the time in the future when 16gb won't be enough for what you're doing, it will be definitely be time for an upgrade lol
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January 9, 2014 1:04:45 PM

HiTechObsessed said:
jcarrey4 said:
And while we're at it, maybe i should just go 2x4GB for now and upgrade to 4x4GB sometime later...some places are saying 8GB is a good spot righ tnow, but if 16 becomes necessary, I have 4 DIMMs to work with...so...start small, eh?


Wish I woulda seen this before my reply lol

Yeah, 8GB is plenty for gaming right now, even at max settings. I have 2 sticks of 4gb with 2 open slots for that same reason.

Now, some will tell you just put 16gb in it now, then you're not stuck at 32, but by the time in the future when 16gb won't be enough for what you're doing, it will be definitely be time for an upgrade lol


Awesome. Thank you for all your help, I'll probably be purchasing this weekend! Just saved me $80 for now deciding on 8GB over 16. Again, thanks!
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