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January 10, 2014 7:53:09 AM

I've been looking at buying a gaming PC, priced around £800-£1000.

But I don't want to play at a desk using a small monitor, I'm used to console gaming on my 42" 1080p TV.

Is there any point hooking a £1000 PC upto a TV that only supports a maximum of 1080p ?

If not then I'll probably go for a much cheaper PC without so much wasted potential.

Thanks in advance, Lee.

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January 10, 2014 7:56:27 AM

Mate a console is just a pc with a diferent software that is directioned to gaming, a PS4 has PC parts and a few different software workups
U can use a PC as a "console" ever heard of steam box? thats the whole concept
Normally gamers prefer smaller monitors because they are cheaper and can have more resolution and speed without spending a bucket load of money........depending on your TV u can have a very good gaming system on a PC and use it just like u use your console, with the added benefit of it being a PC of course.
Wiring might be a little tricky, and most ppl dont like connecting their desktops to a tv because they dont like seing a tower case on their living room or smthing, but u can build a mid tower case thats ellegant so i guess some ppl might do just what u are thinking of doing,
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January 10, 2014 7:56:53 AM

What games will you be playing?
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January 10, 2014 7:58:23 AM

I would not see it as a waste. You can still tweak PC games to get better textures, etc. even on a TV at 1080p, making the game look a hell of a lot better than console. Having a decent card will allow you to play more demanding games in the future as well. I'd say go with what you have planned.

My main questions would be:
1) what are you playing?
2) what GPU are you considering?
3) does your TV have a reasonable refresh rate?
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January 10, 2014 7:59:45 AM

Just dont get a full tower case like the haf stacker :p  because that thing is bigger than the TV :p 
I prefer having My PS3 on the tv and gaming on my pc on my desk but i sometimes do that, connect my pc to the TV and play BF4 on a 35'' LCD tv :p 
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January 10, 2014 8:02:43 AM

I don't know prices with that currency but if that is a lot and you don't want to waste the performance go for a 1440p monitor.
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January 10, 2014 8:11:31 AM

dency45 said:
I don't know prices with that currency but if that is a lot and you don't want to waste the performance go for a 1440p monitor.


It is $1363.70 = £1000
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January 10, 2014 8:25:06 AM

Rather than using a full/mid tower case, you can always use an HTPC style case. Something like the nMediaPC 6000B to house your high-end components.

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January 10, 2014 8:54:43 AM

oOSlushyOo said:
I would not see it as a waste. You can still tweak PC games to get better textures, etc. even on a TV at 1080p, making the game look a hell of a lot better than console. Having a decent card will allow you to play more demanding games in the future as well. I'd say go with what you have planned.

My main questions would be:
1) what are you playing?
2) what GPU are you considering?
3) does your TV have a reasonable refresh rate?


I play lots of different games, the idea behind getting a top notch PC is so I can experience them as the best they can be. That includes the graphically demanding titles like Crysis and BF4.

GPU wise I've been looking at GTX cards, mostly the 680 and 770. A 780 might be stretching the budget too far but if I'm spending big money anyway an extra £100 or whatever it is doesn't make much difference. It's hard to know where to draw the line.

http://www.electrical-deals.co.uk/panasonic-txp42s21ba-...

That's the TV I have, the specs in that link say it's frequency is 600hz. I think that's the refresh rate but I'm not sure.

Thanks for all the replies.

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January 10, 2014 9:54:33 AM

On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
I would not see it as a waste. You can still tweak PC games to get better textures, etc. even on a TV at 1080p, making the game look a hell of a lot better than console. Having a decent card will allow you to play more demanding games in the future as well. I'd say go with what you have planned.

My main questions would be:
1) what are you playing?
2) what GPU are you considering?
3) does your TV have a reasonable refresh rate?


I play lots of different games, the idea behind getting a top notch PC is so I can experience them as the best they can be. That includes the graphically demanding titles like Crysis and BF4.

GPU wise I've been looking at GTX cards, mostly the 680 and 770. A 780 might be stretching the budget too far but if I'm spending big money anyway an extra £100 or whatever it is doesn't make much difference. It's hard to know where to draw the line.

http://www.electrical-deals.co.uk/panasonic-txp42s21ba-...

That's the TV I have, the specs in that link say it's frequency is 600hz. I think that's the refresh rate but I'm not sure.

Thanks for all the replies.



The GTX 770 is the same as the GTX 680, just a rebranding. The 780 alone would be overkill. I think you would be spot on with either the 770 or 680 for very high detailed gaming at 1080p. I personally love the looks of the 770 reference design over the 680. I would recommend running V-Sync to make sure the game runs smooth at 1080p. The card would likely put out slightly more FPS than the TV can handle which can result in some choppiness. Once on, V-Sync should provide buttery smooth gameplay with BF4 and Crysis 3.

Here is some gaming info on the reference 770. These guys mainly focus on high res gaming, but the data they collect is pretty expansive: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_re...

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January 10, 2014 12:38:20 PM

oOSlushyOo said:
On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
I would not see it as a waste. You can still tweak PC games to get better textures, etc. even on a TV at 1080p, making the game look a hell of a lot better than console. Having a decent card will allow you to play more demanding games in the future as well. I'd say go with what you have planned.

My main questions would be:
1) what are you playing?
2) what GPU are you considering?
3) does your TV have a reasonable refresh rate?


I play lots of different games, the idea behind getting a top notch PC is so I can experience them as the best they can be. That includes the graphically demanding titles like Crysis and BF4.

GPU wise I've been looking at GTX cards, mostly the 680 and 770. A 780 might be stretching the budget too far but if I'm spending big money anyway an extra £100 or whatever it is doesn't make much difference. It's hard to know where to draw the line.

http://www.electrical-deals.co.uk/panasonic-txp42s21ba-...

That's the TV I have, the specs in that link say it's frequency is 600hz. I think that's the refresh rate but I'm not sure.

Thanks for all the replies.



The GTX 770 is the same as the GTX 680, just a rebranding. The 780 alone would be overkill. I think you would be spot on with either the 770 or 680 for very high detailed gaming at 1080p. I personally love the looks of the 770 reference design over the 680. I would recommend running V-Sync to make sure the game runs smooth at 1080p. The card would likely put out slightly more FPS than the TV can handle which can result in some choppiness. Once on, V-Sync should provide buttery smooth gameplay with BF4 and Crysis 3.

Here is some gaming info on the reference 770. These guys mainly focus on high res gaming, but the data they collect is pretty expansive: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_re...



That's my main concern with using a TV and not a monitor, I don't want to have a really good GPU that I can't get the most out of. If it's outputting more than my TV can handle then shouldn't I go for a cheaper card and theoretically get the same performance because of the 'bottlenecking' effect my TV would provide ?

Thanks for your help.
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January 10, 2014 2:01:33 PM

On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
I would not see it as a waste. You can still tweak PC games to get better textures, etc. even on a TV at 1080p, making the game look a hell of a lot better than console. Having a decent card will allow you to play more demanding games in the future as well. I'd say go with what you have planned.

My main questions would be:
1) what are you playing?
2) what GPU are you considering?
3) does your TV have a reasonable refresh rate?


I play lots of different games, the idea behind getting a top notch PC is so I can experience them as the best they can be. That includes the graphically demanding titles like Crysis and BF4.

GPU wise I've been looking at GTX cards, mostly the 680 and 770. A 780 might be stretching the budget too far but if I'm spending big money anyway an extra £100 or whatever it is doesn't make much difference. It's hard to know where to draw the line.

http://www.electrical-deals.co.uk/panasonic-txp42s21ba-...

That's the TV I have, the specs in that link say it's frequency is 600hz. I think that's the refresh rate but I'm not sure.

Thanks for all the replies.



The GTX 770 is the same as the GTX 680, just a rebranding. The 780 alone would be overkill. I think you would be spot on with either the 770 or 680 for very high detailed gaming at 1080p. I personally love the looks of the 770 reference design over the 680. I would recommend running V-Sync to make sure the game runs smooth at 1080p. The card would likely put out slightly more FPS than the TV can handle which can result in some choppiness. Once on, V-Sync should provide buttery smooth gameplay with BF4 and Crysis 3.

Here is some gaming info on the reference 770. These guys mainly focus on high res gaming, but the data they collect is pretty expansive: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_re...



That's my main concern with using a TV and not a monitor, I don't want to have a really good GPU that I can't get the most out of. If it's outputting more than my TV can handle then shouldn't I go for a cheaper card and theoretically get the same performance because of the 'bottlenecking' effect my TV would provide ?

Thanks for your help.


That GPU may go over your TV now, but as games become more demanding, it will pretty much even out in the end. The last thing you want to do is go slightly cheaper now to get "on-par" performance to only have the performance tank with newer games. I see absolutely nothing wrong with going with the 770 for TV gameplay. The V-Sync suggestion is a minor issue, if it can be considered an issue at all. You may very well not encounter any choppiness without V-Sync on. You will still be getting a great deal out of the GPU even if you are not running a high res monitor.

NOTE: I personally use a 1080p 5ms monitor which is relatively comparable to a 60hz 1080p TV. I use 2x GTX 760's to run BF4 and similar titles at the highest possible settings (slight overkill, yes but it gives me headroom for the future). The GPUs definitely get a workout running these games and put out roughly 80+fps on really demanding titles. I use V-Sync on this monitor and the result is gameplay that can only be described as "buddddaa". 60fps consistently is a sweet spot for most any game, and this can be achieved by running a little over the top to account for fps dips.


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January 11, 2014 11:53:39 AM

oOSlushyOo said:
On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
I would not see it as a waste. You can still tweak PC games to get better textures, etc. even on a TV at 1080p, making the game look a hell of a lot better than console. Having a decent card will allow you to play more demanding games in the future as well. I'd say go with what you have planned.

My main questions would be:
1) what are you playing?
2) what GPU are you considering?
3) does your TV have a reasonable refresh rate?


I play lots of different games, the idea behind getting a top notch PC is so I can experience them as the best they can be. That includes the graphically demanding titles like Crysis and BF4.

GPU wise I've been looking at GTX cards, mostly the 680 and 770. A 780 might be stretching the budget too far but if I'm spending big money anyway an extra £100 or whatever it is doesn't make much difference. It's hard to know where to draw the line.

http://www.electrical-deals.co.uk/panasonic-txp42s21ba-...

That's the TV I have, the specs in that link say it's frequency is 600hz. I think that's the refresh rate but I'm not sure.

Thanks for all the replies.



The GTX 770 is the same as the GTX 680, just a rebranding. The 780 alone would be overkill. I think you would be spot on with either the 770 or 680 for very high detailed gaming at 1080p. I personally love the looks of the 770 reference design over the 680. I would recommend running V-Sync to make sure the game runs smooth at 1080p. The card would likely put out slightly more FPS than the TV can handle which can result in some choppiness. Once on, V-Sync should provide buttery smooth gameplay with BF4 and Crysis 3.

Here is some gaming info on the reference 770. These guys mainly focus on high res gaming, but the data they collect is pretty expansive: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_re...



That's my main concern with using a TV and not a monitor, I don't want to have a really good GPU that I can't get the most out of. If it's outputting more than my TV can handle then shouldn't I go for a cheaper card and theoretically get the same performance because of the 'bottlenecking' effect my TV would provide ?

Thanks for your help.


That GPU may go over your TV now, but as games become more demanding, it will pretty much even out in the end. The last thing you want to do is go slightly cheaper now to get "on-par" performance to only have the performance tank with newer games. I see absolutely nothing wrong with going with the 770 for TV gameplay. The V-Sync suggestion is a minor issue, if it can be considered an issue at all. You may very well not encounter any choppiness without V-Sync on. You will still be getting a great deal out of the GPU even if you are not running a high res monitor.

NOTE: I personally use a 1080p 5ms monitor which is relatively comparable to a 60hz 1080p TV. I use 2x GTX 760's to run BF4 and similar titles at the highest possible settings (slight overkill, yes but it gives me headroom for the future). The GPUs definitely get a workout running these games and put out roughly 80+fps on really demanding titles. I use V-Sync on this monitor and the result is gameplay that can only be described as "buddddaa". 60fps consistently is a sweet spot for most any game, and this can be achieved by running a little over the top to account for fps dips.




Just so I know, if my TV has a 600hz refresh rate, does that mean I can potentially achieve 600 fps ?
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January 11, 2014 12:33:57 PM

On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
I would not see it as a waste. You can still tweak PC games to get better textures, etc. even on a TV at 1080p, making the game look a hell of a lot better than console. Having a decent card will allow you to play more demanding games in the future as well. I'd say go with what you have planned.

My main questions would be:
1) what are you playing?
2) what GPU are you considering?
3) does your TV have a reasonable refresh rate?


I play lots of different games, the idea behind getting a top notch PC is so I can experience them as the best they can be. That includes the graphically demanding titles like Crysis and BF4.

GPU wise I've been looking at GTX cards, mostly the 680 and 770. A 780 might be stretching the budget too far but if I'm spending big money anyway an extra £100 or whatever it is doesn't make much difference. It's hard to know where to draw the line.

http://www.electrical-deals.co.uk/panasonic-txp42s21ba-...

That's the TV I have, the specs in that link say it's frequency is 600hz. I think that's the refresh rate but I'm not sure.

Thanks for all the replies.



The GTX 770 is the same as the GTX 680, just a rebranding. The 780 alone would be overkill. I think you would be spot on with either the 770 or 680 for very high detailed gaming at 1080p. I personally love the looks of the 770 reference design over the 680. I would recommend running V-Sync to make sure the game runs smooth at 1080p. The card would likely put out slightly more FPS than the TV can handle which can result in some choppiness. Once on, V-Sync should provide buttery smooth gameplay with BF4 and Crysis 3.

Here is some gaming info on the reference 770. These guys mainly focus on high res gaming, but the data they collect is pretty expansive: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_re...



That's my main concern with using a TV and not a monitor, I don't want to have a really good GPU that I can't get the most out of. If it's outputting more than my TV can handle then shouldn't I go for a cheaper card and theoretically get the same performance because of the 'bottlenecking' effect my TV would provide ?

Thanks for your help.


That GPU may go over your TV now, but as games become more demanding, it will pretty much even out in the end. The last thing you want to do is go slightly cheaper now to get "on-par" performance to only have the performance tank with newer games. I see absolutely nothing wrong with going with the 770 for TV gameplay. The V-Sync suggestion is a minor issue, if it can be considered an issue at all. You may very well not encounter any choppiness without V-Sync on. You will still be getting a great deal out of the GPU even if you are not running a high res monitor.

NOTE: I personally use a 1080p 5ms monitor which is relatively comparable to a 60hz 1080p TV. I use 2x GTX 760's to run BF4 and similar titles at the highest possible settings (slight overkill, yes but it gives me headroom for the future). The GPUs definitely get a workout running these games and put out roughly 80+fps on really demanding titles. I use V-Sync on this monitor and the result is gameplay that can only be described as "buddddaa". 60fps consistently is a sweet spot for most any game, and this can be achieved by running a little over the top to account for fps dips.




Just so I know, if my TV has a 600hz refresh rate, does that mean I can potentially achieve 600 fps ?


600? or 60?
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January 14, 2014 12:44:52 PM

ImPrettyIrish said:
On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
On-A-Downer said:
oOSlushyOo said:
I would not see it as a waste. You can still tweak PC games to get better textures, etc. even on a TV at 1080p, making the game look a hell of a lot better than console. Having a decent card will allow you to play more demanding games in the future as well. I'd say go with what you have planned.

My main questions would be:
1) what are you playing?
2) what GPU are you considering?
3) does your TV have a reasonable refresh rate?


I play lots of different games, the idea behind getting a top notch PC is so I can experience them as the best they can be. That includes the graphically demanding titles like Crysis and BF4.

GPU wise I've been looking at GTX cards, mostly the 680 and 770. A 780 might be stretching the budget too far but if I'm spending big money anyway an extra £100 or whatever it is doesn't make much difference. It's hard to know where to draw the line.

http://www.electrical-deals.co.uk/panasonic-txp42s21ba-...

That's the TV I have, the specs in that link say it's frequency is 600hz. I think that's the refresh rate but I'm not sure.

Thanks for all the replies.



The GTX 770 is the same as the GTX 680, just a rebranding. The 780 alone would be overkill. I think you would be spot on with either the 770 or 680 for very high detailed gaming at 1080p. I personally love the looks of the 770 reference design over the 680. I would recommend running V-Sync to make sure the game runs smooth at 1080p. The card would likely put out slightly more FPS than the TV can handle which can result in some choppiness. Once on, V-Sync should provide buttery smooth gameplay with BF4 and Crysis 3.

Here is some gaming info on the reference 770. These guys mainly focus on high res gaming, but the data they collect is pretty expansive: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_re...



That's my main concern with using a TV and not a monitor, I don't want to have a really good GPU that I can't get the most out of. If it's outputting more than my TV can handle then shouldn't I go for a cheaper card and theoretically get the same performance because of the 'bottlenecking' effect my TV would provide ?

Thanks for your help.


That GPU may go over your TV now, but as games become more demanding, it will pretty much even out in the end. The last thing you want to do is go slightly cheaper now to get "on-par" performance to only have the performance tank with newer games. I see absolutely nothing wrong with going with the 770 for TV gameplay. The V-Sync suggestion is a minor issue, if it can be considered an issue at all. You may very well not encounter any choppiness without V-Sync on. You will still be getting a great deal out of the GPU even if you are not running a high res monitor.

NOTE: I personally use a 1080p 5ms monitor which is relatively comparable to a 60hz 1080p TV. I use 2x GTX 760's to run BF4 and similar titles at the highest possible settings (slight overkill, yes but it gives me headroom for the future). The GPUs definitely get a workout running these games and put out roughly 80+fps on really demanding titles. I use V-Sync on this monitor and the result is gameplay that can only be described as "buddddaa". 60fps consistently is a sweet spot for most any game, and this can be achieved by running a little over the top to account for fps dips.




Just so I know, if my TV has a 600hz refresh rate, does that mean I can potentially achieve 600 fps ?


600? or 60?


The spec sheet says 600hz frequency.
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