Which PSU wattage is needed?

Cinco De Mustard

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I'm still pretty new to the computer world and have decided to build a computer with some help with a few tech friends. I have two main questions: Do my parts all work well together/perform well? And what power supply would I need for this system?
I've read somewhere that said that if you have too much wattage it can cause the performance to drop? I wouldn't have any idea. I'm looking for a proper psu for around the $50-$80 range!
My System:
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Black
CPU: AMD A10-6800K Richland 4.1 Ghz 100w Quad Core Socket FM2
Mobo: Msi A88XM-E45 FM2+/FM2 Micro ATX
Ram: Corsair Vengeance 8GB 240 pin DDR3 1600
Gpu: Msi Gtx 660 2 GB Twin Frozr III OC
HDD: Samsung HD103UJ Sata 1 TB 7200 rpm
With Windows 7.

*side note* I'm trying to find out what addition coolers/fans/aftermarket heat sink for this processor since aparently it gets hot easily. Keep it moderately price but I want something I don't have to add for a while. My theme is also blue led/
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enemy1g

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One thing, since you're going to be using a dedicated GPU, I would advise you to get a CPU, not an APU.

The whole point of an APU is that it's kind of an all in one, and meant for lower level gaming, or a media center. You will generally lack in processing power versus a standard CPU.

Would suggest a FX 6300, 970 chipset motherboard, and a XFX 550W PSU.
 
I think your doing yourself a incredible shot in the leg with this build. Any APU is meant to allow Grandma to get to email and surf her favorite recipies, not for gaming. Going with a FX 6300 would be fine if you plan on NOT playing any 2013 and forward games. Due to the new demands of the PC games normal game play is based on the i5 Core or FX-8xxx minimum , usually i7 is the benchmark in gaming machines. The new Haswell chipset has improved the i3 to play BF4 respectfully, but still comparing performance to i5 (next tier) it chokes the same setup GPU and further the number increase when going i7.

Performance being 1080p (1920x108o), 50FPS minimum, High to Ultra Graphics, 64Man map on BF4 as a standard. I am still waiting on AMD to come up with a 'Hyperthread' like solution to actual take full opportunity of all the cores, but on performance against Intel, the cores get in the way of each other without some 'traffic control' Hyperthreading provides.
 
No that mobo is made ONLY for APUs. You need a proper Mobo for the process your choosing. If your going 2013 and forward then you need a AMD Fx-8xxx and proper Mobo, or go Intel i5. If you can afford a i7 then I would suggest that (Intel iCore Mobos usually support all 3 models last I saw).
 

Cinco De Mustard

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So what would be the recommended setup, still using my case, ram, HDD, and gpu? And is the msi gtx 660 tfIII a good gaming graphics card? Like I said I'm a newcomer so I need help with deciding too
 
6xx series is 'old' now and normally you want at least a 670, normally people go 7xx for Nvidia or the R9s on the AMD side.

Again to resay it " Going with a FX 6300 would be fine if you plan on NOT playing any 2013 and forward games. Due to the new demands of the PC games normal game play is based on the i5 Core or FX-8xxx minimum , usually i7 is the benchmark in gaming machines. The new Haswell chipset has improved the i3 to play BF4 respectfully, but still comparing performance to i5 (next tier) it chokes the same setup GPU and further the number increase when going i7.

Performance being 1080p (1920x108o), 50FPS minimum, High to Ultra Graphics, 64Man map on BF4 as a standard. "

That said you can score via SlickDeals a Haswell i7 with 8GB RAM, 1TB Drive, DVD, Windows, for only $550, then swap the PSU and add the GPU and you be up there for the performance levels I mentioned till you went 7xx or R9.
 

Cinco De Mustard

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Well seeing that I already ordered everything except the processor, I suppose I should return both the mobo and gpu? And then go for a fx 8xxx with a compatible mobo with a 7xx or r9? What's the pros and cons of the 7xx and r9? And the pros and cons of the fx 8xxx vs the i5 4670K?
 

enemy1g

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Depends on your budget really.

If it's a little tight, a 8320, CPU cooler, a 990 chipset motherboard, and a r9 280x would work great.

If not, an i5-4670k, Z87board, and a GTX 770/780 would work amazingly as well.

If you don't plan on getting the high end i5, go with the 8320 as you will be able to overclock it and push it past the performance of say, the i5-3350p.

8320 vs i5-4670k, Intel has stronger single cores; AMD has more cores. And overclocked 8320 will match the performance of an i5, generally, but once you apply a good OC to the i5, it'll perform far better than the 8320.

GPU wise, Nvidia runs cooler, uses less power, is generally faster, but costs a bit more than AMD.

AMD is the opposite, runs hotter, uses more power, slower than the Nvidia counterpart, but is cheaper.
 

Cinco De Mustard

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Both the R9 280x and the Gtx 770/780 are out of my price range. I'm hoping to find it closer to the $200 range. Any great ones for around that? With great cooling like the gtx 660 msi tfIII. The amd fx-8320 seems pretty good especially for the price. Right cores seems a bit too much but if the more cores allows for faster gaming, then I'll take it!
 


Without a OS, no case, nor any other parts that isn't realisitic. The only way you can get 'near' $500 for a 'gaming PC' would be to get a i5 Core $349 PC from Walmart, swap the PSU 600W ($99) then spend the rest or save a extra week for a GPU ($149-$499). Realistically any 'Gaming PC' from absolute scratch is $700 minimum (and that would mean you already have a LCD to hook up to). At that config you could do BF4 1080p High Rez and get around 50FPS, normally gaming PCs are around $1000 to make them more 'future proof' for the next games in the pipe but not out yet.

This of course has no bearing on your need to upkeep, patch, clean inside the case, keep scanning and protecting the computer every week to ensure nothing goes 'wrong'. PCs are ALOT of maintenance.