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Building a gaming and entertainment PC. Looking for advice :D

Hello, I am new here, so I don't know where I should post. I'm also a novice builder who doesn't know too much about the components of computers.

I'm looking to build a beast (well as far as I can get without spending too much) of a gaming and entertainment PC. Budget is about £700 ish, but cheaper the better.

The ideal spec has been hammered out
Processor: Intel i7 processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA H87 HD3 Motherboar
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce 760 OC
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB RAM
Case:Zalman Z11 Plus Case
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CXM 600W
Optical Drive:LG 16X Blu Ray Drive
Keyboard: Logitech K360 Wireless keyboard
Storage: Seagate 2TB Barracuda HDD

Now as I'm coming from console I don't where any incompatibilities lie here. This is actually a slightly compromised spec (missing card readers and wireless which I'll probably add in future), but even then it comes to over a grand with software (OS and Office) which is why I then dropped RAM to 8GB and HDD to 1TB. Also devised a "lite" spec which is the same as above, but basically drops down to an i5, the GeForce 660 OC, 8GB RAM, 1TB storage, 500W PSU which got it down to £800 with software.

So, what I'm asking, any way I can reduce cost further (would preferably like to keep the 760 and the i7?

Is 16GB overkill for gaming or is 8GB fine?
What about Intel vs AMD for processors, does AMD give performance for less money?
Is an i7 overkill for gaming? I hear it's only advantage is with hyper threading which games don't use

Also, that Zalman case will be my case since it's already been purchased :P

Thanks

EDIT: Forgot to say my top 2 requirements were it needs to be able to game and do it well and shouldn't be bogged down by anything (or near enough to that)

I also subscribe to the *puts on Jeremy Clarkson voice* POWER!!! idea

EDIT: I just noticed I made an error in the ideal spec. I always do this and get the number confused. It's Nvidia GeForce 760OC and not the 770. Amended it now. Sorry about that

Had the same error in my costings list as well, wrote 770 and put the 760's price :chaudar:

Gah! Sorry, I get the GFX card numbers confused easily. The two options are 770 OC and 660 OC
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  1. 16 gb of ram is definitely overkill. BF4 uses 2.4gb of ram, with windows 8 using another 1.9
    An i7 is currently overkill for gaming. When the cpu is the bottleneck the difference is only a few frames, however hyperthreading will be used more and more in the future.
    For the gpu I would look at an EVGA gtx 770 Superclocked ACX, they are amazing cards.
  2. MFBLO96 said:
    16 gb of ram is definitely overkill. BF4 uses 2.4gb of ram, with windows 8 using another 1.9
    An i7 is currently overkill for gaming. When the cpu is the bottleneck the difference is only a few frames, however hyperthreading will be used more and more in the future.
    For the gpu I would look at an EVGA gtx 770 Superclocked ACX, they are amazing cards.


    You'd recommend EVGA over Gigabyte?
    What if I wanted to do video editing, and I will definitely be doing at least some for YouTube, would an i7 be useful then?
    I'd ammended the premium spec build to have 8GB and 1TB storage, but I wanted to show you what the top premium spec build was. So 8GB should be alright?
  3. Yes i recommend evga 770 too. They are performance. 8gb good for 2015. Core i7 gives max 10fps on bf4 i think i5 is enogh for you and spend more for gpu! Example amd r9 series
  4. Dont forget i7 is 100$ expensive than i5 and ultra fps difference will be 15 and you can buy 400 $ gpus which give you 30-40 fps more
  5. This is my suggestion:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£80.00 @ CCL Computers)
    Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£285.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Keyboard: Logitech K360 Wireless Mini Keyboard (£45.12 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £724.65
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-11 17:58 GMT+0000)
  6. filippi said:
    This is my suggestion:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£80.00 @ CCL Computers)
    Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£285.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Keyboard: Logitech K360 Wireless Mini Keyboard (£45.12 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £724.65
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-11 17:58 GMT+0000)


    That is some cheap RAM
  7. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£160.00 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£92.48 @ Dabs)
    Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£66.73 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£62.04 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£239.90 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.67 @ CCL Computers)
    Total: £691.82
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-11 18:04 GMT+0000)
  8. unplanned bacon said:
    MFBLO96 said:
    16 gb of ram is definitely overkill. BF4 uses 2.4gb of ram, with windows 8 using another 1.9
    An i7 is currently overkill for gaming. When the cpu is the bottleneck the difference is only a few frames, however hyperthreading will be used more and more in the future.
    For the gpu I would look at an EVGA gtx 770 Superclocked ACX, they are amazing cards.


    You'd recommend EVGA over Gigabyte?
    What if I wanted to do video editing, and I will definitely be doing at least some for YouTube, would an i7 be useful then?
    I'd ammended the premium spec build to have 8GB and 1TB storage, but I wanted to show you what the top premium spec build was. So 8GB should be alright?


    EVGA has a better warranty service, and the cards come clocked at already high speeds. If you are doing video editing the i7 is a big difference. In my testing on cinebench hyperthreading adds about 65% more preformance. Also, if you are going to be doing video editing you could consider running two 500gb drives in a RAID 0. That would get twice the read and write speeds, with the same 1gb of space.
    8gb is plenty, and later down the road you could change it to 16gb if you begin to edit longer videos
  9. After looking on the forums I've found the AMD FX8320. How does this compare to my Intel options? If I went AMD would I need a different board or parts? How does it affect my upgrade path?
  10. AMD FX8320: no upgrade path. Its a good cpu for overclockers though.
  11. filippi said:
    AMD FX8320: no upgrade path. Its a good cpu for overclockers though.


    So no to AMD? Would have only made a £15 saving on the i5
  12. unplanned bacon said:
    After looking on the forums I've found the AMD FX8320. How does this compare to my Intel options? If I went AMD would I need a different board or parts? How does it affect my upgrade path?


    The 8320 performs better than the i5 is games like battlefield, a highly threaded game by current standards, however the i7 beats the 8320 in those games.

    The 8320 uses a different type of motherboard: socket AM3+, a good one of those is the ASUS M5a99fx pro r2.0. The 8320 uses more power and generates more heat, almost requiring the use of an aftermarket cooler. Whereas my i7 has never gone above 68 in game on the stock cooler at 3.9ghz.

    Both will work fine. However, if your on a budget I would get the 8320 and a 780 over an i7 and a 770
  13. MFBLO96 said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    After looking on the forums I've found the AMD FX8320. How does this compare to my Intel options? If I went AMD would I need a different board or parts? How does it affect my upgrade path?


    The 8320 performs better than the i5 is games like battlefield, a highly threaded game by current standards, however the i7 beats the 8320 in those games.

    The 8320 uses a different type of motherboard: socket AM3+, a good one of those is the ASUS M5a99fx pro r2.0. The 8320 uses more power and generates more heat, almost requiring the use of an aftermarket cooler. Whereas my i7 has never gone above 68 in game on the stock cooler at 3.9ghz.

    Both will work fine. However, if your on a budget I would get the 8320 and a 780 over an i7 and a 770


    But the 780 costs a tonne, unless I'm missing something whereas the the 770, I can just about do
  14. A gtx 780 is ~510$ on newegg, 180ish more than a 770
    The price difference in processor and 8 gb of ram should leave enough room for a 780
  15. MFBLO96 said:
    A gtx 780 is ~510$ on newegg, 180ish more than a 770
    The price difference in processor and 8 gb of ram should leave enough room for a 780


    Here (assuming you're in the US as you used dollars), the price difference seems to be £200 (but I've only checked two sources). I could use the price gap for a sound card, though not sure if the difference between integrated audio and dedicated will be worth it, or if I should just drop the i7 to an i5, 16GB to 8GB and then pocket the savings. If I could find a 780 for less, it would be under consideration :D
  16. I probably wouldn't get a sound card from the beginning, as onboard sound is fine for gaming.
    I completely spaced out about prices in the UK, how much are 770's and 780's where you are
  17. MFBLO96 said:
    I probably wouldn't get a sound card from the beginning, as onboard sound is fine for gaming.
    I completely spaced out about prices in the UK, how much are 770's and 780's where you are


    I always do this. Just realised I said 770 instead of 760 OC :chaudar: Sorry, meant to say 760, got to stop doing that
    Here it seems to be going for £370 and up and the 760 is £197
  18. Amd fx8320 is 5-6 % faster than i5 but it is 30$ chaper . But it heats more
  19. Sorry, I get the numbers of the graphics cards confused really easily. What I meant to say is 760 OC for the top spec build and not 770 like I said and the 660 OC for the lite spec. I realize that may change some of the suggestions. Sorry, I do that all the time with GFX cards. So, it's the GeForce 760 OC (almost did it again :P) and the 660 OC
  20. unplanned bacon said:
    MFBLO96 said:
    I probably wouldn't get a sound card from the beginning, as onboard sound is fine for gaming.
    I completely spaced out about prices in the UK, how much are 770's and 780's where you are


    I always do this. Just realised I said 770 instead of 760 OC :chaudar: Sorry, meant to say 760, got to stop doing that
    Here it seems to be going for £370 and up and the 760 is £197


    If you could go a 770 SC ACX and a 8320 you would have an amazing build
  21. MFBLO96 said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    After looking on the forums I've found the AMD FX8320. How does this compare to my Intel options? If I went AMD would I need a different board or parts? How does it affect my upgrade path?


    The 8320 performs better than the i5 is games like battlefield, a highly threaded game by current standards, however the i7 beats the 8320 in those games.

    The 8320 uses a different type of motherboard: socket AM3+, a good one of those is the ASUS M5a99fx pro r2.0. The 8320 uses more power and generates more heat, almost requiring the use of an aftermarket cooler. Whereas my i7 has never gone above 68 in game on the stock cooler at 3.9ghz.

    Both will work fine. However, if your on a budget I would get the 8320 and a 780 over an i7 and a 770


    Can't seem to find a decent AM3+ board with HDMI out. I know the GFX card has HDMI out but still.
    There is this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/970-PRO3-R2-0-Mainboard-Storage/dp/B00C9OPYWE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1389638470&sr=8-2&keywords=AM3%2B+hdmi+motherboard

    But who knows how good that is
    An AMD build means I could up my RAM to 16GB again and come in at £795 with software, or keep RAM at 8GB and come in at £750
  22. unplanned bacon said:
    MFBLO96 said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    After looking on the forums I've found the AMD FX8320. How does this compare to my Intel options? If I went AMD would I need a different board or parts? How does it affect my upgrade path?


    The 8320 performs better than the i5 is games like battlefield, a highly threaded game by current standards, however the i7 beats the 8320 in those games.

    The 8320 uses a different type of motherboard: socket AM3+, a good one of those is the ASUS M5a99fx pro r2.0. The 8320 uses more power and generates more heat, almost requiring the use of an aftermarket cooler. Whereas my i7 has never gone above 68 in game on the stock cooler at 3.9ghz.

    Both will work fine. However, if your on a budget I would get the 8320 and a 780 over an i7 and a 770


    Can't seem to find a decent AM3+ board with HDMI out. I know the GFX card has HDMI out but still.
    There is this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/970-PRO3-R2-0-Mainboard-Storage/dp/B00C9OPYWE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1389638470&sr=8-2&keywords=AM3%2B+hdmi+motherboard

    But who knows how good that is
    An AMD build means I could up my RAM to 16GB again and come in at £795 with software, or keep RAM at 8GB and come in at £750


    Since the FX series processors do not come with integrated graphics none of the motherboard will have an HDMI port on them, the graphics connections are off on the back of the GPU, and nearly every modern gpu will have HDMI
  23. As for the motherboard in the link as rock has a hit or miss reputation with motherboards, I would probably go for an ASUS as they have a good reputation.
    This one is about 15 pounds more, but it is a good board
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B008RPYB0U/ref=s9_simh_awgw_d0_g147_i2/277-4835115-1525611?aid=aw_gw&apid=437521927&arc=1201&arid=0A5YF0185V440P0170ND&asn=center-6&pf_rd_i=aw_gw&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_p=437521927&pf_rd_r=0A5YF0185V440P0170ND&pf_rd_s=center-6&pf_rd_t=1201
  24. MFBLO96 said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    MFBLO96 said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    After looking on the forums I've found the AMD FX8320. How does this compare to my Intel options? If I went AMD would I need a different board or parts? How does it affect my upgrade path?


    The 8320 performs better than the i5 is games like battlefield, a highly threaded game by current standards, however the i7 beats the 8320 in those games.

    The 8320 uses a different type of motherboard: socket AM3+, a good one of those is the ASUS M5a99fx pro r2.0. The 8320 uses more power and generates more heat, almost requiring the use of an aftermarket cooler. Whereas my i7 has never gone above 68 in game on the stock cooler at 3.9ghz.

    Both will work fine. However, if your on a budget I would get the 8320 and a 780 over an i7 and a 770


    Can't seem to find a decent AM3+ board with HDMI out. I know the GFX card has HDMI out but still.
    There is this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/970-PRO3-R2-0-Mainboard-Storage/dp/B00C9OPYWE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1389638470&sr=8-2&keywords=AM3%2B+hdmi+motherboard

    But who knows how good that is
    An AMD build means I could up my RAM to 16GB again and come in at £795 with software, or keep RAM at 8GB and come in at £750


    Since the FX series processors do not come with integrated graphics none of the motherboard will have an HDMI port on them, the graphics connections are off on the back of the GPU, and nearly every modern gpu will have HDMI


    It's that why!? For some reason I didn't pick up on that. I can stop looking for ones with HDMI out then. In any case I'll be using the 760 which has HDMI out on it. I won't use 680 if I don't have too. The Asrock board didn't indoor me with confidence either. A friend of mine recommended Asus too. He recommended this one. I don't know if eSata will be that useful to me though

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B008RPZUZK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1389685841&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
  25. unplanned bacon said:
    MFBLO96 said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    MFBLO96 said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    After looking on the forums I've found the AMD FX8320. How does this compare to my Intel options? If I went AMD would I need a different board or parts? How does it affect my upgrade path?


    The 8320 performs better than the i5 is games like battlefield, a highly threaded game by current standards, however the i7 beats the 8320 in those games.

    The 8320 uses a different type of motherboard: socket AM3+, a good one of those is the ASUS M5a99fx pro r2.0. The 8320 uses more power and generates more heat, almost requiring the use of an aftermarket cooler. Whereas my i7 has never gone above 68 in game on the stock cooler at 3.9ghz.

    Both will work fine. However, if your on a budget I would get the 8320 and a 780 over an i7 and a 770


    Can't seem to find a decent AM3+ board with HDMI out. I know the GFX card has HDMI out but still.
    There is this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/970-PRO3-R2-0-Mainboard-Storage/dp/B00C9OPYWE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1389638470&sr=8-2&keywords=AM3%2B+hdmi+motherboard

    But who knows how good that is
    An AMD build means I could up my RAM to 16GB again and come in at £795 with software, or keep RAM at 8GB and come in at £750


    Since the FX series processors do not come with integrated graphics none of the motherboard will have an HDMI port on them, the graphics connections are off on the back of the GPU, and nearly every modern gpu will have HDMI


    It's that why!? For some reason I didn't pick up on that. I can stop looking for ones with HDMI out then. In any case I'll be using the 760 which has HDMI out on it. I won't use 680 if I don't have too. The Asrock board didn't indoor me with confidence either. A friend of mine recommended Asus too. He recommended this one. I don't know if eSata will be that useful to me though

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B008RPZUZK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1389685841&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165


    That is a nicer board, Esata is mainly used for hooking up external backup drives at faster speeds than USB
    The price difference in the two asus board is this supports SLI (dual GPU cards) where as the other two wouldn't, which is a nice upgrade path to have open
    Also the 990fx chipset is better for over clocking,

    If you went up on the GPU, the 770 is a rebadged 680 at a lower price
  26. This might be a stupid question, but can a Blu Ray drive play PC games (as they're on DVD? I'd assume so since the PS3 could do it
    Are you suggesting the Asrock board MFBLO96? I though Asrock boards weren't that good? If the AMD needs an aftermarket cooler, it may not be a good shout, because it comes in more expensive than the Intel i5 build (but has twice the RAM at 16GB)
  27. unplanned bacon said:
    This might be a stupid question, but can a Blu Ray drive play PC games (as they're on DVD? I'd assume so since the PS3 could do it
    Are you suggesting the Asrock board MFBLO96? I though Asrock boards weren't that good? If the AMD needs an aftermarket cooler, it may not be a good shout, because it comes in more expensive than the Intel i5 build (but has twice the RAM at 16GB)


    I would recomend the m5a99fx evo r2.0, not the asrock
    Blu ray drives can read DVD disks, the way games go on the pc is you use the drive once to install the game, and then the computer looks to the hard drives to play the game. Something like the cooler master 212+ is a descent cpu cooler, it's about 35$ so probably ~30 pounds in the UK

    If you weren't going to be video editing I might try to go with a 770 over a 760, and cut ram back to 8gb
  28. The 770 you say? With the price difference between 8GB RAM and 16GB RAM I could do that. How much video editing I'll be doing is up in the air, kind of been neglecting the YouTube channel for too long. I do know when my laptop had to capture from my Xbox it would really slow down, take ages to cut the final copy and the programs would run slower than I wanted, but it did have to do it all on 4GB

    How could I have forgotten that's how PC gaming works! The consoles must have corrupted me :P, haven't done large volume PC gaming for ages
  29. Can anyone tell me if this drive is good enough or if they know of a better one for a similar priceLG BH16NS40.AUAR10B 16x SATA Internal BD-RW Retail Kit by LG Electronics http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00AK29B26/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_bzz1sb0BPJBHR
  30. That's a pretty good drive, it is a blue ray writer, meaning it costs a little more than a blue ray reader.

    When a laptop is capturing it takes the video and processes it into a manageable format, and then saves it to a disk. It is more cpu intensive than ram intensive

    I do some amount of video editing (5min music videos in music class), and haven't run into issues with RAM.

    I would probably go with a nicer graphics card over more ram, as it will work better in game, and more ram is easy to add later, a better GPU isn't as easy.
  31. lonewolf7 said:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£160.00 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£92.48 @ Dabs)
    Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£66.73 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£62.04 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£239.90 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.67 @ CCL Computers)
    Total: £691.82
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-11 18:04 GMT+0000)


    Without being in the UK or doing ton of research, this looks like a really solid build. My only comments are 1) I prefer gigabyte motherboards, and 2) If you aren't overclocking save your money and get a non "K" 3570.

    If you are willing to overclock, get a Cooler Master 212 EVO and the K version, your system will be awesome fast.
  32. unplanned bacon said:
    This might be a stupid question, but can a Blu Ray drive play PC games (as they're on DVD? I'd assume so since the PS3 could do it
    Are you suggesting the Asrock board MFBLO96? I though Asrock boards weren't that good? If the AMD needs an aftermarket cooler, it may not be a good shout, because it comes in more expensive than the Intel i5 build (but has twice the RAM at 16GB)


    I don't think so but there may be a program that will assist with that.
  33. sora said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    This might be a stupid question, but can a Blu Ray drive play PC games (as they're on DVD? I'd assume so since the PS3 could do it
    Are you suggesting the Asrock board MFBLO96? I though Asrock boards weren't that good? If the AMD needs an aftermarket cooler, it may not be a good shout, because it comes in more expensive than the Intel i5 build (but has twice the RAM at 16GB)


    I don't think so but there may be a program that will assist with that.


    Are you saying if I bought the LG it wouldn't play PC games. Other people have said it will play Blu Rays, DVDs and CDs

    Alright, so I have my case. Next question is what to get next. I really need to go back and look through all your suggested builds
  34. Best answer
    unplanned bacon said:
    sora said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    This might be a stupid question, but can a Blu Ray drive play PC games (as they're on DVD? I'd assume so since the PS3 could do it
    Are you suggesting the Asrock board MFBLO96? I though Asrock boards weren't that good? If the AMD needs an aftermarket cooler, it may not be a good shout, because it comes in more expensive than the Intel i5 build (but has twice the RAM at 16GB)


    I don't think so but there may be a program that will assist with that.


    Are you saying if I bought the LG it wouldn't play PC games. Other people have said it will play Blu Rays, DVDs and CDs

    Alright, so I have my case. Next question is what to get next. I really need to go back and look through all your suggested builds


    He's saying you can't play games off a disk. As I mentioned already, the games are installed once, and the computer pulls them from the hard drive, it ends up having faster read speeds than a DVD drive.

    I would probably go with the 8350, m5a99fx evo r2.0, and a 770, that will be around the best performance you would find with that budget. Some people say go i5, but in benchmarks for newer games the 8350 comes in as the better performer, (not saying that out of fanboyism, I have an i7 and that is the truth of the benchmarks)

    I would probably place one large order. I was reading through another thread about a person who called amazon, explained how large thier order was, and asked for a 5% discount, which amazon gave them. Probably worth a try
  35. filippi said:
    AMD FX8320: no upgrade path. Its a good cpu for overclockers though.


    I could always rip out the AMD board and processor for Intel versions later down the road couldn't I?
  36. MFBLO96 said:
    That's a pretty good drive, it is a blue ray writer, meaning it costs a little more than a blue ray reader.

    When a laptop is capturing it takes the video and processes it into a manageable format, and then saves it to a disk. It is more cpu intensive than ram intensive

    I do some amount of video editing (5min music videos in music class), and haven't run into issues with RAM.

    I would probably go with a nicer graphics card over more ram, as it will work better in game, and more ram is easy to add later, a better GPU isn't as easy.


    A better GPU? Do you mean better than the 760?
  37. After some consideration and price running, my build looks like this

    Part # Weapon X AMD variant Supplier
    1 AMD FX8320 £107.00 Amazon
    21 Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 Motherboard £72.69 Amazon
    14 Nvidia GeForce 760 OC £197.00 eBuyer
    16 Corsair 16GB RAM £114.12 eBuyer
    4 Zalman Z11 Plus Case £51.00 Amazon
    6 Corsair Builder Series CXM 600W PSU £65.00 Amazon
    8 LG 16X Blu Ray Drive £69.99 Amazon
    18 WiFi TP Link something £12.00 Amazon
    10 Logitech K360 wireless Keyboard £25.00 eBuyer
    13 Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB HDD £43.99 Amazon
    Total £757.79


    AMD build plus shipping £775.77
    AMD build plus shipping and software £929.05
  38. MFBLO96 said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    sora said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    This might be a stupid question, but can a Blu Ray drive play PC games (as they're on DVD? I'd assume so since the PS3 could do it
    Are you suggesting the Asrock board MFBLO96? I though Asrock boards weren't that good? If the AMD needs an aftermarket cooler, it may not be a good shout, because it comes in more expensive than the Intel i5 build (but has twice the RAM at 16GB)


    I don't think so but there may be a program that will assist with that.


    Are you saying if I bought the LG it wouldn't play PC games. Other people have said it will play Blu Rays, DVDs and CDs

    Alright, so I have my case. Next question is what to get next. I really need to go back and look through all your suggested builds


    He's saying you can't play games off a disk. As I mentioned already, the games are installed once, and the computer pulls them from the hard drive, it ends up having faster read speeds than a DVD drive.

    I would probably go with the 8350, m5a99fx evo r2.0, and a 770, that will be around the best performance you would find with that budget. Some people say go i5, but in benchmarks for newer games the 8350 comes in as the better performer, (not saying that out of fanboyism, I have an i7 and that is the truth of the benchmarks)

    I would probably place one large order. I was reading through another thread about a person who called amazon, explained how large thier order was, and asked for a 5% discount, which amazon gave them. Probably worth a try


    I placed several sort of large orders, one got blocked which caused some complications, hopefully all sorted now. Can't wait to get building :D
  39. MFBLO96 said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    sora said:
    unplanned bacon said:
    This might be a stupid question, but can a Blu Ray drive play PC games (as they're on DVD? I'd assume so since the PS3 could do it
    Are you suggesting the Asrock board MFBLO96? I though Asrock boards weren't that good? If the AMD needs an aftermarket cooler, it may not be a good shout, because it comes in more expensive than the Intel i5 build (but has twice the RAM at 16GB)


    I don't think so but there may be a program that will assist with that.


    Are you saying if I bought the LG it wouldn't play PC games. Other people have said it will play Blu Rays, DVDs and CDs

    Alright, so I have my case. Next question is what to get next. I really need to go back and look through all your suggested builds


    He's saying you can't play games off a disk. As I mentioned already, the games are installed once, and the computer pulls them from the hard drive, it ends up having faster read speeds than a DVD drive.

    I would probably go with the 8350, m5a99fx evo r2.0, and a 770, that will be around the best performance you would find with that budget. Some people say go i5, but in benchmarks for newer games the 8350 comes in as the better performer, (not saying that out of fanboyism, I have an i7 and that is the truth of the benchmarks)

    I would probably place one large order. I was reading through another thread about a person who called amazon, explained how large thier order was, and asked for a 5% discount, which amazon gave them. Probably worth a try


    Please site where you find this information. I have yet to see anywhere that the 8350 beats a sandy/ivy bridge i5.
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