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AMD CPU 100% Usage and 98 Degrees Celsius Temperature

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January 11, 2014 9:03:22 PM

This is what my computer case is currently showing me, this has been going on for a couple days but I just noticed. My CPU usage in taskmanager is also 100-90% used at all times. This is my setup.





Operating System
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 265
Regor 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 575MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A87T (AM3)
Graphics
Generic Non-PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series (Sapphire/PCPartner)
Hard Drives
466GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKX-001CA0 ATA Device (SATA)
Optical Drives
ATAPI iHAS124 B ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

What is the issue and how can I figure it out? fans or heatsink or what?

Music and video at lowest quality are lagging and I can barely do anything

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January 11, 2014 9:10:42 PM

Does the task manager show what is using all the cpu cycles? it should in most cases.
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January 11, 2014 9:12:00 PM

The processor is weak and the airflow is bad .
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January 11, 2014 9:13:00 PM

nukemaster said:
Does the task manager show what is using all the cpu cycles? it should in most cases.


it does but when it goes to 90-100 it just assigns it to whatever is open and switches quickly so it might say

taskmanager 45% and then the next second

google chrome 32%
taskmanager 2%
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January 11, 2014 9:15:57 PM

See if it stabilizes by letting it sit for a bit. At first the task manager tends to show high, but it should settle.

I do not think it should be THAT bad. I know my old single core gets like that(does not take much to peg it at 100%), but it is a slow old cpu and that is expected.

Cleaning you cpu cooler with compressed air would not hurt.
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January 11, 2014 9:17:15 PM

nukemaster said:
See if it stabilizes by letting it sit for a bit. At first the task manager tends to show high, but it should settle.

I do not think it should be THAT bad. I know my old single core gets like that(does not take much to peg it at 100%), but it is a slow old cpu and that is expected.

Cleaning you cpu cooler with compressed air would not hurt.


tried that, its not programs that are using the CPU there is a problem
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January 11, 2014 9:19:38 PM

Can you try something like process explorer to see what is up. It shows much more than the task manager does.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-ca/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

If you are showing 100% use, something has to be doing it. If it was just hot, I would bet it has become dirty and needs a clean.
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January 11, 2014 9:40:25 PM

whitecat said:
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nope, even if I have almost nothing open this is happening, and as I mentioned earlier it randomly assigns which program uses what percentage :/ 


But i see Steam .exe is taking memory . Run Resource monitor and see which program is consuming the CPU time.


steam is running as usual, my big problem is the 100 Celsius degree temp my CPU has
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January 11, 2014 10:13:02 PM

bump
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January 12, 2014 8:43:11 AM

When I turn on my computer it continues to go up 1 degree every minute until it reaches 150
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January 12, 2014 9:07:27 AM

Please use HWmonitor to check your temps as well as fan speeds.

While not perfect it is good with most systems.

In Process Explorer, try to use the cpu column to get a screen shot. Memory usage does not always mean it is a cpu hog as well.


As you can see the memory hogging programs are not the same ones using more cpu time(at least not in all cases).


It also looks like you have MS security essentials running. I would try with it off, just in case it is going overboard.
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January 12, 2014 9:12:52 AM

nukemaster said:
Please use HWmonitor to check your temps as well as fan speeds.

While not perfect it is good with most systems.

In Process Explorer, try to use the cpu column to get a screen shot. Memory usage does not always mean it is a cpu hog as well.


As you can see the memory hogging programs are not the same ones using more cpu time(at least not in all cases).


It also looks like you have MS security essentials running. I would try with it off, just in case it is going overboard.


Dude ive explained this 3 times, when the CPU reaches high usage it randomly assigns what uses the CPU most, so it might say Taskmanager 45% and then the next half second it will say Task Manager 0% Chrome 32%

My main issue right now is the temperature
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January 12, 2014 9:19:31 AM

Have you tried reapplying thermal paste to the processor? You can pick a tube of it up for 5 dollars at your local fry's or on newegg. It is something that is cheap and really helps the cooling out. Also if you could post a picture of the inside of your computer and tell us how many fans you have that would be great!!! What I am looking for here is the cable management inside your case to see if it is ruining the airflow and I will be looking to see if there is a better place where you could mount the fans in order to give the computer better cooling. After this I will be able to help you fix these issues or possibly move on to other possible problems.
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January 12, 2014 9:24:12 AM

rjvitt said:
Have you tried reapplying thermal paste to the processor? You can pick a tube of it up for 5 dollars at your local fry's or on newegg. It is something that is cheap and really helps the cooling out. Also if you could post a picture of the inside of your computer and tell us how many fans you have that would be great!!! What I am looking for here is the cable management inside your case to see if it is ruining the airflow and I will be looking to see if there is a better place where you could mount the fans in order to give the computer better cooling. After this I will be able to help you fix these issues or possibly move on to other possible problems.


well I was looking at this http://www.arctic.ac/us_en/products/cooling/thermal-com... but is there anyway this is a result of some overclocking? I never really tried to overclock before but 2 days ago I used this program http://coderbag.com/Programming-C/CPU-core-parking-mana... but I doubt it has anything to do with this. Is there a way to check if this is a hardware problem or clocking problem?
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January 12, 2014 9:35:38 AM

Dude, if things are randomly taking more cpu than they should, something is wrong. The temperatures are only a results of high loads and or bad cooling.

New paste may help(MX4 is good stuff), first try to run the case open if you can.

Your cpu is WAY to old to be trying to park cores and it has NO boost ability. You should not need extra programs to take care of it. Also you know when you overclock the cpu sometimes, you are also pushing the memory(can cause all kinds of issues).

If you think the issue is overclocking, why not drop to stock speeds and see what happens. Overclocking increases heat for sure. Better cooling is always recommended for overclocking.

Prime95 is a stress test to check stability of the system(cpu and memory with the blend test), but I would NEVER use it with a cpu that hot.
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January 12, 2014 9:40:03 AM

LOL you didn't tell us you over clocked!!! This is almost 100% a result of over clocking!!!! I would recommend taking your clock down to what it was at before you over clocked and in the future over clock in bios instead of using a program to do it. The programs today generally do work, but BIOS is the surefire old school way to do it. I can confidently say that this was a result of over clocking and that if you take it back to its previous settings it will be fixed.
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January 12, 2014 9:40:54 AM

nukemaster said:
Dude, if things are randomly taking more cpu than they should, something is wrong. The temperatures are only a results of high loads and or bad cooling.

New paste may help(MX4 is good stuff), first try to run the case open if you can.

Your cpu is WAY to old to be trying to park cores and it has NO boost ability. You should not need extra programs to take care of it. Also you know when you overclock the cpu sometimes, you are also pushing the memory(can cause all kinds of issues).

If you think the issue is overclocking, why not drop to stock speeds and see what happens. Overclocking increases heat for sure. Better cooling is always recommended for overclocking.

Prime95 is a stress test to check stability of the system(cpu and memory with the blend test), but I would NEVER use it with a cpu that hot.


okay awesome, how can I drop the stock speeds? or revert whatever overclocking has been attempted? as I dont remember deliberately trying to overclock my cpu in the past few months
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January 12, 2014 9:54:09 AM

Okay so what you need to do is you need to open that program you used and drag the slider at the bottom all the way to the left. After a while check the temps and post back. What that is doing is limiting your cpu idling. That is why your cpu is getting random tasks, because it is idling, but that program keeps it working and keeps it performing calculations. I would recommend that if this fixes the problem, uninstall it and forget about it. Out of sight, out of mind. Hope this helps!!!

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January 12, 2014 10:16:43 AM

Just go into bios and load defaults for starters. You may have to re set your ram speeds but it will get your cpu back to stock anyway.
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January 12, 2014 10:27:37 AM

rjvitt said:
Okay so what you need to do is you need to open that program you used and drag the slider at the bottom all the way to the left. After a while check the temps and post back. What that is doing is limiting your cpu idling. That is why your cpu is getting random tasks, because it is idling, but that program keeps it working and keeps it performing calculations. I would recommend that if this fixes the problem, uninstall it and forget about it. Out of sight, out of mind. Hope this helps!!!

rjvitt


just tried this, about to restart then will report results
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January 12, 2014 10:28:14 AM

Bones it is actually the program that is causing the problem, not an over clock. He has a program on that makes the cpu not allowed to idle, so it is sending random calculations to the processes in order to keep the cpu busy.
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January 12, 2014 10:55:05 AM

rjvitt said:
Bones it is actually the program that is causing the problem, not an over clock. He has a program on that makes the cpu not allowed to idle, so it is sending random calculations to the processes in order to keep the cpu busy.


So I did what you told me and restarted but sadly my temperature was still going up and is now again at 152 degrees, I dont know what to do!

also some more info my CPU usage sometimes stays between 90-100 and sometimes bounces from 20- 100 4-70 just goes low and back up every second.
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January 12, 2014 10:56:45 AM

Did you adjust that program that you used 2 days ago like i recommended? You need to drag the slider all the way to the left and I am almost positive that will fix the issue.
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January 12, 2014 10:58:36 AM

Can you try a system restore to before this software was installed. It does sound like it messed something up.

By any chance does it still have issues in safe mode(F8 just before the Windows load screen shows)?

Is the case still closed, if not crack it open and check for excess dust or a slow/stuck fan.
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January 12, 2014 10:59:37 AM

rjvitt said:
Did you adjust that program that you used 2 days ago like i recommended? You need to drag the slider all the way to the left and I am almost positive that will fix the issue.


I just said I did sadly it didn't fix
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January 12, 2014 11:02:21 AM

nukemaster said:
Can you try a system restore to before this software was installed. It does sound like it messed something up.

By any chance does it still have issues in safe mode(F8 just before the Windows load screen shows)?

Is the case still closed, if not crack it open and check for excess dust or a slow/stuck fan.


Ill try safe mode, for the restore point my last one was like a month ago and I really dont wanna do that

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January 12, 2014 11:50:55 AM

nukemaster said:
Can you try a system restore to before this software was installed. It does sound like it messed something up.

By any chance does it still have issues in safe mode(F8 just before the Windows load screen shows)?

Is the case still closed, if not crack it open and check for excess dust or a slow/stuck fan.


Okay so I booted into safemode and these are the results
http://i.imgur.com/uLbX4dr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8sMgDsw.jpg

after restarting my temperatures are staying at 102 degrees without safemode which is good and all temps are looking fine, and so far CPU usage is okay.

Ill come back to you in a bit with more results

one weird thing ive noticed though is that when there is 50% usage of cpu or 25 or whatever the task manager shows programs and services taking up only like one quarter of that, is that normal?
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January 12, 2014 4:56:35 PM

I am not sure I get what you mean in the last line.

On the Intel side, with a hyperthreadded cpu, even if all cores are loaded it will show half as long as the fake cores are still idle(windows will try to use those last.).

This can make a loaded system look less loaded, but in fact is is quite loaded.

This does not apply to your system.

Keep an eye on it and with any luck, you will not have to deal with the high usage any more.
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