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Nazathul

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Hey forums...new member :)... I am building new system have most things nailed down on it. But I am finding conflicting camps on this forum when it comes to cooling your CPU. Air vs water?
Case: Corsair obsidian 900d
Mobo: Asus rampage IV black
CPU: 4930k Ivy bridge
GPU: 780ti sli x2
Memory: Corsair dominator plat 16gb 2133
SSD: 1tb samsung 840 evo
Hard drive : 4tb wd black
PSU: 1200 w corsair

One of the things is I am a gamer. This rig will not be moved unless I move houses. I have a young son so I get banished into my man cave with door closed, my current pc gets hot as is, with no overlock. I have headset when I play but would prefer to not have jet in my room with me. So water or air. If I go water I was looking at Cooler Master Neptun 280L- AOI. I have seen some forum posts saying this is best bet? Would air cool be quieter? Would water cool better then high end air?
Other question, one large SSD drive or two smaller ones in raid set up? Anything else you guys see in build I should change? Thanks a lot!
 
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well not neccesarily aircool on cpu, again, depends on price being an issue. They have some really nice watercoolers for cpu, and as far as gpu watercooling goes, let me drop that here: http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30/c311/s1996/list/p1/Liquid_Cooling-Water_Blocks_VGA_-_Card_-_nVidia-GTX_780_Water_Blocks-Page1.html
Most 780 waterblocks fit 780ti as well. I'm pretty sure that all do, but you can fact check me on that or just buy one dedicated for 780ti. Definitely install the waterblock as opposed to buying with it because if you plan on building, then build it all :D

raid 5 is 3 or more drives linked but with only 2 drives worth of capacity. In the event that one drive fails, the other two make up for it using parity blocks, so no...

Jon Bartlett

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First of all, use pcpartpicker, it will save you money and make it ALOT easier for people to help you out.
Otherwise, thats a very nice build there, you must be very rich lol. I don't know if saving money is a big deal with you or not, but for about 2% less quality you can save 10%.
As for air/water, since you have sli, go with water cooling on your gpus. You can either buy a gpu with the waterblock already on it (+$200) or buy a waterblock seperate and install it yourself (+$100 & recommended)

Side note: noctua makes some really great cpu coolers that can outperform watercooling most of the time. I assume that you will be oc'ing though so get a high-end watercooler.

Also as for raid, ssd is very stable, so I would recommend going with either raid 0 or 5. raid 0 can really screw you over though if you aren't careful, as ssds can still fail, so i would recommend raid 5, judging from your non-existent budget :D

Last note: if this is your first time building and you have a lot of money, just buy from alienware. They do a great job.
 

Nazathul

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I have bought custom pcs before.. Have been working on this build for bout month trying to plan it all. Kinda my new obsession so I would prefer to do myself. I had not planned to gpu cool at first. I haven not found 780ti with water block on it yet. Not up to lingo on raid terms, what does raid 5 mean? You said to go air cool on cpu though any reason why?
 

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well not neccesarily aircool on cpu, again, depends on price being an issue. They have some really nice watercoolers for cpu, and as far as gpu watercooling goes, let me drop that here: http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30/c311/s1996/list/p1/Liquid_Cooling-Water_Blocks_VGA_-_Card_-_nVidia-GTX_780_Water_Blocks-Page1.html
Most 780 waterblocks fit 780ti as well. I'm pretty sure that all do, but you can fact check me on that or just buy one dedicated for 780ti. Definitely install the waterblock as opposed to buying with it because if you plan on building, then build it all :D

raid 5 is 3 or more drives linked but with only 2 drives worth of capacity. In the event that one drive fails, the other two make up for it using parity blocks, so no data lost. If two drives fail, then you lose data, but ssds won't fail that quickly. If you backup your data, raid 0 should be fine, but with raid 5, you won't ever lose your data (with ssd and excluding catastrophic events such as your man cave being breached by your son who smashes your whole system)

If you don't use raid, then don't get 1tb ssd, get 2 500gb ssds. If one drive gets screwed over, you still have your other one's data, so only 50% loss. However, I recommend going raid 5 because that wont be an issue.

Final recommendation:
1 128 gb ssd for os/programs
2x500GB ssd's in a raid 0 (for replaceable files such as games) OR 3x500GB ssds in a raid 5 (more secure)
2 2TB HDDS for mass storage (one for irreplaceable files such as pictures, etc, one for whatever else)
 
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Nazathul

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Ok great thank you for the info on raid.. Really helps. And on link for GPU blocks. What's your thoughts on CPU cooling?
 

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Lol i probably was generic with that issue by saying "some good ones" lol
H220 is a really good watercooler. However, I'm not positive off the top of my head what the sound is on that. If you won't be heavily overclocking, I would go with a noctua nh-d14 air cooler. Those are way better than the corsair h100i watercooling, but h220 beats them all. I would recommend h220 for your build, and make sure that you run your water loop for a day BEFORE you even think about turning on your computer :D All watercoolers are susceptible to leakage, but h220 is pretty reliable.
 

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Well H220 is going to be hard to find, but if you can then good job :D
H220 is probably going to be the best, but another good one to consider is the NZXT Kraken. It performs better but is pretty loud (with the current fans that come with it).

Side note: I see that you have been researching parts for about a month, so you are probably about to start buying, but when you think that you are ready to order, spend 1 extra week. It'll be worth it in the long run. My first build I didn't do enough research on (~4 weeks) and I wasn't happy with it.