This Gaming PC worth £1350?

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Okay so I've been looking at pre-built gaming PCs for weeks now and I'm thinking of picking this one before I post the details it's about £1050 then include monitor, keyboard and mouse (about £245) making it £1350. This is also a Mini Gaming PC and I was wondering does this mean it has any drawbacks because it's the same price as full tower gaming PCs and if they both have the same power and price. Why doesn't everyone get a mini pc, you know for space?

System Base Price: £ 665.83
Coolermaster Elite 130 Mini ITX USB 3.0 Case - Black
X-Viper Modular 750W 80+ Ultra Silent PSU [upg £ 25.00]
MSI Z87I WIFI - Mini-ITX Motherboard Socket 1150
New 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-4670K Quad Core Processor (3.4GHz, 6MB Cache)
8GB 1866MHz DDR3 Memory (1x8GB)
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 GPU - 1536 Cores,2 DVI,HDMI,DP [upg £ 82.50]
120GB SSD - Solid State Drive [upg £ 75.00]
2TB SATA III 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache, 8ms Hard Drive [upg £ 17.50]
24x DVD Writer (read/write CD & DVD) [upg £ 12.50]
Integrated 7.1 High Definition 8-channel Audio
Wi-Fi 802.11n, Bluetooth 4.0, Intel® Wireless Display, Dual band up to 300 Mbps Wireless LAN (onboard)
Microsoft Windows® 8.1 - 64 bit inc. DVD & Licence
FREE 60 Day Trial of Microsoft Office 2013
BullGuard Internet Security ver. 13 - 90 Day Trial (pre-installed OS required)
24" Iiyama E2483HS-B1 Full HD LED Monitor, D-Sub/DVI-D/HDMI [upg £ 115.00]
Razer Blackwidow 2013 Expert Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Programmable USB [upg £ 74.99]
Razer Deathadder 2013 Essential Ergonomic Gaming Mouse, 6400dpi [upg £ 54.16]
Free 3 Years Gold Warranty - (2 Years Parts, 3 Years Labour, 3 Months Free Collect & Return)
 
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is it worth £1350? no and the RAM is bad as it is only one stick, to get it to run at full speed you need two as it is dual. With one stick you only have half speed. Also that PSU will blow I bet given a chance, I'll make one with the same specs, only better in different areas.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£107.84 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£70.69 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£239.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.65 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£47.12 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Ebuyer)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£72.59 @ Ebuyer)
Monitor: BenQ RL2455HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (£133.99 @ Amazon UK)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse (£47.40 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1073.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-12 22:02 GMT+0000)

The keyboard wasn't on partpicker sorry, check the mouse as it might be a left handed version too. I swapped out windows 8 for 7 as it is better but you can change that if you want.
 
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Wow I would save myself a lot of money but I really don't trust myself building it this was another build off a different website but this is a full tower (Without monitor)

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Processor : 1 x Intel Intel I5-4670k, Quad Core 3.4Ghz 1150 Haswell, Intel HD GFX, Retail Boxed
CPU Cooler : 1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler, AMD FM1/2, AM3+, AM3, AM2+, AM2 + Intel 1366, 2011, 775, 1150, 1155
Motherboard : 1 x ASUS Intel Z87 Motherboard (Socket 1150/Z87 Express/DDR3/S-ATA 600/ATX)
Case : 1 x Coolermaster Cm 692 II Advance Nvidia Special Edition ATX Mid-Tower Case - Black/Green USB3
Memory : 1 x Corsair 8Gb Vengeance DDR3 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24 (2X 4GB Kit)
Video Card : 1 x 2GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 (2GB) Graphics Card PCi-E (2x DVI) HDMI DisplayPort (VGA Adaptor) - Includes Assassins Creed Free Game
Harddrive : 1 x Seagate 2Tb Seagate SATA 3 6Gb/Ps Hard drive 7200RPM - 64Mb Cache
Harddrive_2 : 1 x Toshiba 128GB SATA 6/GBs 9.5mm 2.5` SSD - Read/Write speed up to 552/501Mbs
Psu : 1 x Coolermaster 700 Watt B700 85Plus PSU
Optical Drive : 1 x Samsung 24X SATA DVDRW Dual Layer (Oem)
Os : 1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64 Bit DVD (OEM)
Sound : 1 x On Board Sound card - Standard
Network : 1 x Dynamode Wireless N 300mbps PCI Express Twin Antena Wi-Fi Adaptor
Warranty : 1 x Falcon Standard Warranty - 1 Year Parts And 3 Years Labour
Keyboard : 1 x Razer BlackWidow 2013 Expert Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
Mouse : 1 x Razer Orochi 2013 Gaming Mouse (Bluetooth/Wired/Black/6400dpi)
£1223
 
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Has a cooler master PSU (Bad), I would rather a Samsung 840 Evo over the Toshiba SSD and the RAM is only one stick again. Up to you, making one might sound hard, but it isn't too bad, if you can follow instructions you will be fine and with the amount of money saved a accident here or there would still be cheaper :lol:

With what you are doing, you won't be able to fit a GTX 770 in anything smaller, plus the fact the amount of heat that needs dispensing, a small case will not do it.
 
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It's 2x4gb it says right there and I said this one isn't a small one or a full tower.Also I changed the PSU to a 1 x Corsair 750W CX Builder 80 Plus Bronze PSU, that any better?
 
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Sorry seen the 1x at the beginning, :facepalm: Corsair is decent, I wouldn't be unhappy with that by any means. One thing I am unsure on is the CPU cooler might want to google that, but it looks nice :)
 
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What website are you using?
Building a computer isn't very hard; you're just putting two and two together.
Anyways, there's nothing wrong with a mini-itx build. It won't overheat or anything. You probably won't get as good temps as opposed to a ATX mid or full tower, but it still works and it's very convenient and compact for space.
 
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For the Mini I'm using Meshcomputers and the other one is Falcongaming
 
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I will, I'm just so worried I saved up this money for ages now and I want the best I can get with it, without building it myself haha.
 
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Bleh none of those websites are any good, really. Falcongaming all use low quality psu. The Corsair CX non-modular series aren't that great because they have a bad quality capacitor that typically results in a dead psu fairly quickly.
I looked at MeshComputers and it's even worse. They have very limited options. The psus are even worse and their options are way too limited.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend any of those websites. You're better off building your own or finding a better websites. Unfortunately, I don't know any UK custom building sites.
 
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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/

I think Novatech has one but not to sure, thought I'd leave a link to the UK partpicker just incase the op wanted to have a look there.
 
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If you have £1350 to spend, you will get a lot more if you build it yourself. It may sound complicated but it is relatively simple. If buy pre-built, chances are you will get a £1000 computer worth about half that while spending the rest basically for them to build it for you.

Just use a site like uk.pcpartpicker.com and pick your parts from there, it has a compatability setting that allows you to see if your parts actually fit together (basically), and shows you where you can buy them cheapest.
 
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Look at this configuration: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/syscon_int.php?prodid=FS-383-OE&recordid=21680573
If it didn't apply the configurations I made to the stock ones, here's the list:

NZXT Phantom Enthusiast USB3.0 Full Tower Case - Black
Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail
Corsair Hydro H80i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
Asus Z87-A Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU)
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 WindForce 3x OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N770OC-2GD)
Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW)
Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD
OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM
Seasonic X-Series 850w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply
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System Build Fan - Noiseblocker BlackSilent Pro Fan PLPS - 120mm PWM [EXNO-001]
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Standard Build Systems - Dispatched within 7 working days

Totals to £1,248.84 inc VAT
The only thing I don't know is whether or not it comes with an OS installed (I don't see any OS options on the list). If it doesn't, just buy your own and install it yourself. It will still be under £1350 and it's a much better build than the ones you've listed.
Of course, the best option is to still build it yourself if you're up to you. It's a good learning experience and it's fun (for most people).
 
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Thanks butt hat's £1250 without keyboard, mouse and monitor which the others are.
 
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Well then..I found Cyberpowerpc.co.uk
Here's what you can get: http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/saved/715171
That's £1,213.20 excluding the mouse and keyboard. You can just get a basic keyboard for now for ~£20.
That computer is overall much better than any of the ones listed here.

If you want a better keyboard and mouse, you can reduce the price of the config a bit.
You can save £23 by grabbing the CM 690 II case instead of the Corsair 500R. Or if you want to save more, you can grab the Corsair H60 cooler instead of the Corsair H100 and then grab the Corsair 200R case, which should save ~£55. Though I would stick with the original set-up because the Corsair H100 is only £17 more than the H60 but the H100 cools much better. Anyways, keyboards and mouse are easily upgrade-able.
 
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This, pre-built computers are a complete pain in the ass for the money.

Why don't you want to build it yourself?
 
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