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Alright so based on some suggestions from my last post and hours of research online, I've come up with this build and was hoping the community could help fill in the holes or maybe recommend any changes.

CPU: Intel i5-3570k 3.4 GHz Quad Core
MOBO: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB
Ram: Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1600 (2 x 4 GB)
or, Patriot Viper 3 8GB DDR3-1600 (2 x 4 GB)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200 RPM

Total Estimated Wattage thus far is 346W.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/2Amuv

So I'm still missing a CPU cooler, a power supply and a case. I'm having trouble with these last three.

Firstly, I've read mixed reviews about getting the 3570k vs the newer 4460k I think it is, which costs basically the same. What do you guys recommend? If I rolled the 4th gen I'd have to come up with a new build but that's ok.

Will this CPU need a cooler if I do not plan to overclock?

As for the Power Supply, can someone recommend something that will deliver the power I need and preferably have enough if down the line I decide to SLI? I don't plan on overclocking as this is my first time attempting a build and have very limited knowledge and the task of even getting this thing to work will be enough for now, but maybe have some extra power for that option down the line wouldn't hurt. Any suggestions?

Lastly for the case, I'd love to have as much room as possible w/o breaking the bank. I've read a few guides about picking a case and I figure a mid tower will be sufficient but if someone could confirm this and recommend something that's nice and not too expensive that would be wonderful. Doesn't need all the flashy things, so long as it's practical for a first timer.

An optical drive I can probably figure out on my own, and mouse/monitor/keyboard/OS I'll figure out later, although I do want a 1080p monitor with a 1ms response time if that makes a difference in my build! I was thinking of picking up the ASUS VG248QE 24" but maybe thats a bit overkill for my needs hehe.

I'm already at around $800 for this build and would love to finish it up for around $1000 if possible, not including mouse/keyboard/os or monitor.

This build is for gaming, I mostly play MMO's and would love to run Elder Scrolls Online at as high settings as possible with this rig.

Sorry for the long wall, and thanks for taking the time if you respond!
 
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A 600-750 watt power supply should be plenty for this build but if you do want to go SLI go for something closer to 900 or 1000 watts, Personally I would recommend going with a Corsair, Seasonic or a Thermaltake you do not want to cheap out on a power supply the good ones at this wattage are usually between 65 (600W) and 100 (700W) if you go higher such as a 900 watt power supply you may be looking at more like 200 dollars. As for the CPU Cooler the best bang for the buck right now is the Cooler Master hyper evo 212 for around $30-$40. But if you aren't planning on overclocking or running your system under load for extended periods of time (more than 24 hours) the stock cooler should do fine. Although if you don't mind that extra 40...
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I'm curious as to why you want to go with the 3570K over the (I'm guessing you meant) 4670K. The difference isn't huge, but like you said they cost about the same and the 4670K is the newer one. Its been very well received. If someone set up a poll of best 4th generation Intel CPU my money would be on it winning.
 
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A 600-750 watt power supply should be plenty for this build but if you do want to go SLI go for something closer to 900 or 1000 watts, Personally I would recommend going with a Corsair, Seasonic or a Thermaltake you do not want to cheap out on a power supply the good ones at this wattage are usually between 65 (600W) and 100 (700W) if you go higher such as a 900 watt power supply you may be looking at more like 200 dollars. As for the CPU Cooler the best bang for the buck right now is the Cooler Master hyper evo 212 for around $30-$40. But if you aren't planning on overclocking or running your system under load for extended periods of time (more than 24 hours) the stock cooler should do fine. Although if you don't mind that extra 40 dollars to get a CPU Cooler it may increase system life span. If you go with a CPU Cooler make sure you get a thermal compound such as Arctic Ceramique 2 for around $15. For a case I would recommend the Cooler master HAF 912, this is a good value it has 2 120mm fans, A dust filter under where the power supply fan would normally go and it has 6 3.5'' bays, 4 5.25'' bays, and a cage that can hold 2 2.5'' drives.
 
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Well I'm very new to this and when I started my build I found good review for the 3570k and only after read about the 4670k. I briefly started doing a build with the 4670k but after researching these parts for the last 3 hours I got tired and figured I'd post this first. Will the compatible parts with the 4670k end up costing more then the 3570k parts I've listed?

Sorry just new. I've always just bought pre made computers and am currently gaming on a bootcamped imac which definitely isn't cutting it anymore.
 
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with the cpu the newer haswell dont over clock well but are slightly faster then the ib cpu but run hotter. with the newer cpu/mb combo if you have to replace the cpu for a i7 or faster cpu there will be a refresh of haswell later this year or next year with intel tic-toc cycle. the older 3xxx cpu are on a dead slot. the newer x87 chipset will give you more usb 3.0 ports and sata 6g ports. the next mb going to have faster sata ports and dddr-4 ram. I dont see a lot of people keeping there mb/cpu for more then 2-3 years. as you said yu wanted to sli there few good 850w power supplys.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850snlb9
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-tx850m
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850xxxb9
for cases there the r300/r400.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-300rwindowed
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-400r
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr4blw
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/2Aror
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/2Aror/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/2Aror/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($98.33 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($269.64 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($90.78 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE82 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.47 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.79 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit - OEM (64-bit) ($123.34 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Total: $1226.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-12 23:51 EST-0500)
 
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The difference isn't huge and the performance difference is also not prominent.
But given a chance i personally would have gone with the latest i5 4670k.
But for that you have to change your mobo to a Z87 series.

If you dont plant to overclock then there is no need for going with the 'k' versions of the cpu's as they cost more.
This build doesnt require a aftermarket cooler , but i wouldnt take risk with the temp.
 
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It's np no need to apologize, sorry myself that came off harsher then it should of. You would only need a different motherboard, everything else is fully compatible. The equivalent Asus motherboard for 4th generation Haswell would be this. I see it as being a bit more expensive then the Ivy Bridge motherboard on newegg Canada, which is here.
 
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If you are on a strict budget then that is a good solution but it is always better to buy your own thermal compound for 15 dollars extra to get lower temps, especially if you are doing CPU intensive work.
 
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Actually i meant that one doesnt have to buy a thermal compound as it comes with the EVO case itself.
 
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What I meant was you could buy a more efficient compound rather than using the stock one that comes with the EVO. Just my opinion.
 
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Just another suggestion that I forgot to include from my post above, you may want to go with a WD Caviar Black 1TB, Seagates tend to have a higher failure rate and the WD has a 5 year warranty vs the 2 year warranty from seagate, although they are about 20-30 dollars more expensive.

 
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So here's what I've come up with based on all your suggestions. Still got to possibly throw in a thermal compound in there.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AWMK

About network adapters, again totally new here, do I need a wired one to access the internet? I dont plan on running this rig wireless so I assume I don't need that one.

What about sound cards? Do I need that to play any sound by default or is that included with some other part? lol sorry if this is a dumb question.

And also, the optical drive I chose says it doesn't come with a sata cable. Will this be an issue or can I just pick one up from a local computer store? I don't think it comes with screws either? Is there a similar one that comes with these already that some1 can recommend?

One more thing, I liked your recommendation for the Cooler Master HAF 912 robertjas. I read that it has only 2.0 usb but motherboard is 3.0. I also read that the 3.0 will still work from the mother board in this case in an article somewhere. Is that accurate?

Thanks again for all your time and help community!
 
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Also one more thing. A lot of people have mentioned getting some of these parts a lot cheaper than what I'm finding. Is this possibly American prices in these reviews I'm reading, or did they just happen to catch a sale? If its from a sale, is there a good website I can track some of these parts for if they ever go on sale? I don't absolutely need this thing built for another 3 months so I have some time. Thanks again.
 
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Looks good to me. If you do not want wifi, you do not need a separate adapter for a wired connection as this motherboard comes with one built in. Most motherboards do have the LAN adapter built in, some also have a wifi adapter.

The same is true with the audio, your motherboard, like most mobos, has one. I think the only people who get a separate sound card are those who work with music professionally, and in fact it might help very slightly with game fps by offloading some of the CPU's work to a dedicated card. I have, however, never seen a sound card included in a build on these forums, and I've seen hundreds of builds at this point.

You are lucky a third time! You do not need a SATA cable for your optical drive because your motherboard comes with two 6 GB/s SATA cables. Neither my optical drive nor my hard drive had one (I don't think they are typically included) and I used the two that came with my mobo. You can use the two you get with your mobo the same way.
 
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