Router Settings for Layer 2 Switch Configuration

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CyberCitizen

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As my list of internet-ready devices continues to grow, I'm about to have an electrician come in to run additional Cat5 wiring through my house. Having slowly grown to a very ad hoc network of three wireless routers, I realized that it was time to try and be a little more systematic, so I bought a CISCO SG100-D-08 unmanaged (layer 2) network switch.

Here's my problem: I originally connected the switch to my Actiontec MI424 WR cable-modem / wireless router and then started plugging devices into my switch. While this worked initially (e.g., one of my desktops had internet access, an xbox had internet access, etc), each device fairly quickly lost connectivity. My PC was the easiest to look at: it had no IP address assigned and I could do nothing to reestablish connection. Trust me, I tried many of the usual tricks: static IP assignment, resetting adapters, power cycles, etc. The XBox was a little easier to get back online: power-cycling the modem, switch and Xbox WOULD get me a connection, but it was normally gone within 5 minutes.

What's interesting - and somewhat telling - is that I managed to fix everything by putting an Asus RT-N66U (wireless) router between the Actiontec router and the Cisco switch. Note that all connections are hardwired and that the Actiontec has a router built into it that has been supporting upwards of a dozen devices on a LAN that had been built exclusively with (wireless) routers. Now that the CISCO switch hangs off of the Asus router (which hangs off of the Actiontec), all of the devices connected to the Cisco switch seem to have a stable and reliable connection. This suggests that either the Actiontec router won't support layer-2 switching directly or (more likely I hope) that I need to make some setting adjustments.

Any ideas?

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Before you added the ASUS Router, how many devices were added before connectivity was lost? Verizon FIOS may limit the total number of devices connected at any given time (be expiring the IP lease of devices)....it may yet be another creative way to ensure that bandwidth usage by their subscribers are kept to a minimum....

By placing the ASUS Router inline - you effectively take the FIOS router out of the equation - it is only assigning one IP address.
 

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I drew up a diagram of what I think your saying it looks like...

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Is this accurate?
 

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That is close to the picture of the configuration that did NOT work. The only difference is that I did not have the ASUS router hanging off of the switch: it was connected to the Actiontec router.
 

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CyberCitizen

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Originally I added quite a few - but no more than had been connected to my network prior to adding the switch. However, after having problems, I eventually backed down to a configuration with only one device (xbox) on the switch, my PC and two wireless routers on the Actiontec.

I'm not quite sure what you mean about the lease expiration. On the LAN side of the Actiontec, it assigns IP addresses in the 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.254 range. Doesn't the lease expiration apply to the other (WAN/Internet) side of the router?

FWIW, the other two routers in the system have been configured to use different address ranges for DHCP (e.. 192.168.11.x and 192.168.2.x). That's worked stably for years.
 

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Interesting. I'm afraid that I don't know anything about the Untangle firewall, because otherwise your Verizon FIOS router is working in essentially the same configuration. I'd be interested to know what happens if the firewall weren't in place. Not to start another thread, but apparently you don't think much of the firewall that is built into the Actiontec.
 

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I just took a look at the untangleappliance.com web site. Even their low end products are unified threat management devices and - it seems - all are actually routers. So the configuration you have above looks a lot like the one I got to work: you put a second DHCPserving router between the Actiontec modem and the first 8 port switch.
 

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The untangle is serving only as the firewall. The router functions are off, and DHCP solely by the ActionTec.

It's there mostly as a hobby, and just another layer of protection.
 

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Hey there... I am having the exact same problem. I got myself an 8 port L2 switch, connected it to one single port of the ActionTec and left the Actiontec do DHCP assignment and routing/bridging. Works for a few days than all of a sudden, anything connected via L2 switch stops working, anything directly connected to Actiontec continues to work fine. I would have to reset Actiontec back to factory state for it to work again for a few hours/weeks, than one day agin stops working, no more DHCP assigned to devices connected via switch, etc... I change 3 times switches, running out of ideas.......
Did you ever resolve the issue (without a L3 Asus in between actiontec and L2 switch)?
Thanks !!
 
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