Buying new cpu or gpu

ShadowEA · Jan 13, 2014

Hello guys.

I get around 200 euros to spend or gpu or cpu. So i don't know which one is more important for gaming and which one gonna increase my fps to point where new games are playable.

My current pc spec.

Amd a4-3300 (dual core 2.5ghz)
4gb ram
amd radeon hd 6450

So for this money what do you suggest me to get gpu or cpu ?

varun_02 · Jan 13, 2014

GPU is much more important for gaming.
But here is a crisis you are gonna be in.
IF you upgrade your gpu then there surely your cpu will bottleneck the gpu.
You gotta upgrade both.

rvilkman · Jan 13, 2014

GPU will help you more, although you 'might' be able to get a 750k and a gpu for that amount of money.

Basically a 7850 and a Athlon II X4 750k. At least amazon in germany would let you get that for about 200e.
Not sure what is available for you.

logainofhades · Jan 13, 2014

What ram in particular are you using. 2x2gb or 1x4gb? You really could use more ram as well. I would definitely get more when you can afford to.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (€71.90 @ Caseking)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card (€139.80 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €211.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-13 19:06 CET+0100)

ShadowEA · Jan 13, 2014

@logainofhades
So with that i could play normally new games ?
I use 2x2 gb ram

dreamerman_pl · Jan 13, 2014

Since when FM2 cpu i compatibile with FM1 socket?
ShadowEA your cpu is on FM1 socket, all cpu compatible with that socket are to slow to play modern games, 2core based haswell pentium is faster..
Another thing is that to use full potential of card such as radeon hd7850 you would need i5 in most games. Really many current games need also fast cpu, not only gpu. Next such card need good PSU, and I suppose that you have some cheap 300-350W PSU because pc is apu based, so to power such card you would need also to buy better psu thats at least 40Euro..
4gb isn't a problem for most games.
Tell what games you want to play. Note that with such tight budget you should expect higher res/details :/

ShadowEA · Jan 13, 2014

Also i want to ask can i use motherboard a55m-p33 motherboard with AMD Radeon R7 260X Powercolor OC 1GB/GDDR5, DL-DVI-I/DL-DVI-D/HDMI/DP/128bit and AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor because i can't find that graphics card in my country, nor i can buy it through amazon.

Also i have 500W psu model atx-500

logainofhades · Jan 13, 2014

I missed that it was an FM1, my mistake. This is the CPU you would have to go with to keep your motherboard, as long as said board has support for it. http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad3670wngxbox
The quad core FM1 chips are comparable to Phenom II performance.

If you want something more modern with an upgrade path, then this would work and still be plenty for DOTA 2.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor (€53.55 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€64.90 @ Caseking)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (€93.45 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €211.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-13 20:53 CET+0100)

dreamerman_pl · Jan 13, 2014

a55m-p33 has FM1 socket, Athlon II X4 760K is FM2 socket, it will not work.
That graphic card will work, but there is no sense of buying such card without at least modern 150$ cpu. Specific PSU model or 'noname'?
What country, and what games you want to play?

ShadowEA · Jan 13, 2014

@dreamerman_pl
I'm from Serbia, i would like to play games such as Batman arkham asylum, black ops 2, cs go with atleast 150 fps on medium

varun_02 · Jan 13, 2014

ShadowEA :

150?

ShadowEA · Jan 13, 2014

People says 120 fps is the minimum for getting normal experience, while 300 is cap.
With current pc spec i get 90 fps

logainofhades · Jan 13, 2014

The human eye cannot see much past 60fps.

ShadowEA · Jan 13, 2014

With lower fps movements are slower too in counter strike games and also some other problems with hz etc, but let's not talk about that.

So if i buy just cpu and motherboard will my current graphics card will be good enough to play these new games on medium

ShadowEA · Jan 13, 2014

Little bump.

logainofhades · Jan 13, 2014

Your graphics card is not suitable for gaming at all.

dreamerman_pl · Jan 13, 2014

look at logainofhades post, he has edited it and gives your good option based on haswell 2core Pentium with 7770, you wont get better performance for that $$. for additional $ you could get an i3 that will be faster than that pentium.
On other hand some best cpu for FM1 socket that you will find on used market, but most gpu will be bottlenecked by it.

logainofhades · Jan 13, 2014

FM1 cpu's will perform virtually the same as a Phenom II at the same core count and clock speed. They are all basically Phenom II's that were modified to work as an APU.

ShadowEA · Jan 13, 2014

Can i use this motherboard MB FM2 A55 MSI FM2-A55M-E33, PCIe/DDR3/SATA2/GLAN/7.1/USB2 will add aditional 40 euros for that ?

logainofhades · Jan 13, 2014

I would not buy an FM2 motherboard. AMD will be releasing FM2+ APU's I think in the next few days or so. You could wait and see what kind of performance they offer before you buy. I don't expect much performance from them, though. Phenom II performance maybe. They will still be slower than an FX series cpu.

rvilkman · Jan 13, 2014

You could get the 7850 for now if you can afford it and update your platform later on, it would still give you a sizable increase in performance.

ShadowEA · Jan 14, 2014

So will that be enough to run these newer games with just high end GPU ?

dreamerman_pl · Jan 14, 2014

Check what we have written - you need better cpu, your current is insufficient for modern games, either yo your current socket: Athlon II X4 651 (or with K unlocked for overclocking) or wait for pricex drop, today new APU Kaveri will be available on market so in few weeks maybe older hardware will be on some promo. And any gaming graphic card will be better than yours - but don't look to web-browsing gpu (5450, 6450, 210 and so on) even used hd6670 for 50$ will be huge improvement - but only if you will have better cpu to handle games faster.

ShadowEA · Jan 14, 2014

dreamerman_pl :

Ye, im pretty new to the pc hardware parts, so idk if you could here make me one configuration and make screenshot because in serbia i can't use amazon and etc. http://www.tehnoms.rs/konf.php this is pc configurator. So prices are like 10k equal 100 euros. These are available parts which i can buy in my country.

ShadowEA · Jan 14, 2014

Ok here is my one of last decisions:
amd athlon II x4 760k
asus f2a55-m lk2 / microatx/ amd a55/fm2/ddr3x2
amd radeon hd 7770 ghz edition 1gb ddr5

Hope this will be good enough

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