New (First) Build -- Too Hot?

the_infidel

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Hi guys. Hope it's ok to ask this here. Long post, but wanted to give as much info as possible.

Just did my first build and I'm thinking my CPU temp is a bit too high. Trying to determine if I should try reseating the heat sink or just get a couple more fans. I am not overclocking, and I don't want to obsess over this, but I mainly don't want to slowly cook my CPU and shorten its life.

I have the following set up. Don't think all of this affects things, but here it is.

MOBO: Asus Z87-PRO
CPU: Intel 4770K
COOLER: Noctua NH-L9i
GPU: Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX760
MEMORY: G.Skill Ripjaws X 1600 16GB (2x8GB)
SSD: Samsung 840 PRO 256GB
HDD: WD Velociraptor 1TB
PSU: Corsair AX760
CASE: Fractal R4
CASE FANS: 4: rear exhaust, two front and one bottom intake all plugged into MOBO
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
AMBIENT: Around 24-25C.

Not currently overclocking, but hope to use the easy overclocking features of the MOBO to do a little OC--nothing drastic.

Rig is just built three days ago, but my typical usage will be hardcore programming (it's my job and hobby) meaning I might often be running 2 or 3 virtual machines on top of the host machine. Occasional gaming, but I am far from hardcore. Still now that I have a nice machine, I'll likely play more and better games. Can't think of much else that would stress this machine.

Used the thermal paste that came with the Noctua. Used a small pea-sized blob in the center and let pressure take it's course. Over the three days since the build I have been installing software, cycling the machine a lot, and ran Prime95 for about 2.5 hours once.

ASUS software has me sitting at right about 38-39C at idle. When I ran Prime95 it never went above 70. Since then I installed both Core Temp and HW Monitor and both seem to match but have me 3-5 degrees hotter at idle than the ASUS software. Haven't run Prime95 with them on yet.

At idle my fans do in the low few hundreds of RPM, like 400, 500, 600 or so (it varies, as I have the ASUS FanExpert software controlling them. They ramped up to max appropriately when I stressed the machine.

Questions:

1. Do I trust the ASUS software or the others. Wondering why the temps are consistently different by 3-5 degrees, but HWT and CT match. Using different sensors?

2. Is this too high? I know it's not crazy high, and I don't want to obsess over a few degrees, as I said. I was happy the max never topped 70 though I might run Prime95 again with HW and CoreTemp monitoring and logging and look at what I get.

3. I can easily add two top fans. Would that suffice, if I'm too hot? Intake or exhaust.

Again, I just want to do what's best for my CPU. I would not look forward to reseating the heat sink, but if the consensus is it would help lower the temps a good few degrees I would. I'd rather do it now and solve it and be done, if you think it's necessary. I can also just add the fans.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've already gotten tons of help from the community to get this far, and will try to pay it forward as time goes on. :^)
 
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Thanks for the reassurance. I did end up reseating the cooler, but it didn't make much difference. To be on the safe side, I made my fan ramp up profiles a little more aggressive and have shaved a few degrees off of the temps I reported above while still being very quiet. So I'm happy now.

the_infidel

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One more data point--just ran a short (8 min.) 'torture test' using Prime 95's Small FFT mode. The previous test was Blend mode, not as good a test for CPU I gather from the internet.

According to the ASUS software, it want right up to 70-71-72C, fluctuating about around those numbers, never over 72. Again, HWM and CT matched, but numbers were 82-83-84C, 12 degrees higher. Wish I knew why the difference.
 

TriBeard

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70 degrees under prime95 is perfectly fine. mid 80's and below are generally what people consider acceptable, especially as newer processors from AMD and Intel both tend to run hotter than older ones (to a point. Looking at you P4). You likely will not ever see the CPU get that hot during any kind of normal CPU use, as prime95 and other similar tools like intel burn test work the processor harder than most anything else you would do on it. That processor's thermal shutoff isn't until about 100C, so you would be fine with stress test temps of anything less than 90C, and normal use temps of anything at or below 85.

Don't sweat it. Enjoy the new processor.
 

apcs13

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I don't know man that seems pretty hot. When I run Prime95 my FX-6350 never gets above 56C with a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ and an overclock, and a lot of tech experts say that your CPU should be between 50-70 degrees under a full-load situation like Prime95. You're probably OK, but I would keep an eye on it.
 
those are fine temps. Intels can safely run hotter then that. Your cpu won't temp throttle until it hits 92C anyway.

remember, those torture tests generate a lot more heat then you'll ever generate in ANY day to day usage. To give you an example... my fx8320 will hit close to it's "throttle" temps at 69C under a protracted prime95 or IBT run. yet i've never seen the temps higher then 40C under EVERY OTHER USE i've put the cpu to. No game, no rendering, no program out there will get the cpu and socket higher then 40C outside of one of those torture tests.

since you're hitting 20C under your max i'd say you're good to go.
 

the_infidel

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Thanks for the reassurance. I did end up reseating the cooler, but it didn't make much difference. To be on the safe side, I made my fan ramp up profiles a little more aggressive and have shaved a few degrees off of the temps I reported above while still being very quiet. So I'm happy now.
 
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