Crossfire with A10-7850k
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Brantyn Gerik
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Probably the upper end amd cards...we don't really know yet because this product has only just been revealed...not even released yet
(guessing anywhere from the 7850-7950)
(guessing anywhere from the 7850-7950)
Brantyn Gerik
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The apu market is a big market at the moment, and seems to be what amd is moving towards.. no need to put down the technology
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comparing the specs of the graphics processing on the 7850k, it has the same core config as a HD7750 (512:32:16), so I'm guessing that's what it's most compatible with, judging by that, the Kaveri APUs in general will be able to crossfire/dual graphics with AMD's Cape Verde GPUs which include: 7730, 7750, and 7770 GHz edition
but since the specifications of the APU say it uses an R7 series iGPU, I assume it can be crossfire'd with the Bonaire GPUs too: 7790, R7 260, and R7 260x, this is all speculation, no one has tested the dual graphics functionality yet (to my knowledge at least)
Edit: The truth is that an APU will not perform on the same level as dCPU and dGPUs, however, whether or not APUs + dGPU crossfire is a waste of money is up to the user. Perhaps OP likes the direction of the APUs, and how the market is moving/responding. HSA and hUMA is something that won't be on traditional dCPU and dGPU set ups for a while (if ever), and if OP thinks these will be important to him in the future then more power to him.
but since the specifications of the APU say it uses an R7 series iGPU, I assume it can be crossfire'd with the Bonaire GPUs too: 7790, R7 260, and R7 260x, this is all speculation, no one has tested the dual graphics functionality yet (to my knowledge at least)
Edit: The truth is that an APU will not perform on the same level as dCPU and dGPUs, however, whether or not APUs + dGPU crossfire is a waste of money is up to the user. Perhaps OP likes the direction of the APUs, and how the market is moving/responding. HSA and hUMA is something that won't be on traditional dCPU and dGPU set ups for a while (if ever), and if OP thinks these will be important to him in the future then more power to him.
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Only R7 ddr3 based graphic cards, at this moment R7 240 and R7 250.. ;] Rest will work as normal discrete/separate gpu..
he may already have a graphics card like the hd7770 or hd7750 e.t.c so he may be looking to see if this is a worthwhile upgrade. if its possible to crossfire then for me it might be worth it as i currently have a hd7770.
as long as he looks out both options of dedicated and non dedicated and does his research, then its fine if he finds this is what is good for him.
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R7 240 or R7 250(DDR5/DDR3) That's what an AMD official said,But There is a Youtube Video with R9 290x Hybrid Crossfire
We will have To wait for a little long more to get more Details
Dont Forget That There are many Youtube Videos with 6850k+7750 Hybrid Crossfire,Though officially Crossfire is not supported
We will have To wait for a little long more to get more Details
Dont Forget That There are many Youtube Videos with 6850k+7750 Hybrid Crossfire,Though officially Crossfire is not supported
Ok, I'm no computer expert but I would like to say that I commonly see people say if gaming is a the priority then a discrete cpu and gpu are the best way to go, often downplaying apus.
When you people say this, its like completely ignoring the question.
Ofcourse, spending a load of money on a top cpu and top graphics card is the best way to go but the majority of people don't spend insane amounts on a gaming rig.
I understand a lot of you here do because you are computer enthusiasts but you are not the majority but the minority.
The majority of people are looking for a decent gaming rig able to play modern games on high settings but at great value for money.
Value for money is the primary concern for people like me, the rig doesn't need to cost 2000 dollars and be able to play all games at 60 fps at 1080p on ultra high detail settings.
Apus are far more useful for the majority who want a decent rig at great value which is where an APU with Dual Graphics comes in.
When you people say this, its like completely ignoring the question.
Ofcourse, spending a load of money on a top cpu and top graphics card is the best way to go but the majority of people don't spend insane amounts on a gaming rig.
I understand a lot of you here do because you are computer enthusiasts but you are not the majority but the minority.
The majority of people are looking for a decent gaming rig able to play modern games on high settings but at great value for money.
Value for money is the primary concern for people like me, the rig doesn't need to cost 2000 dollars and be able to play all games at 60 fps at 1080p on ultra high detail settings.
Apus are far more useful for the majority who want a decent rig at great value which is where an APU with Dual Graphics comes in.
Besides, an AMD A10 7850k and Radeon R7 250 with dual Graphics enabled with 8 2400 MHz ram with a sniper motherboard and 1tb HDD will cost about 500 pounds for the base unit and is capable of playing modern games at high detail at 1080p at 60fps anyway from what I have seen.
Isn't that more than good enough for most people? Its more than good enough for me and a hell of a lot cheaper than an Intel i5 with Nvidia GTx 660 combo which wont even perform as well for gaming according to all the reviews I have been reading.
Isn't that more than good enough for most people? Its more than good enough for me and a hell of a lot cheaper than an Intel i5 with Nvidia GTx 660 combo which wont even perform as well for gaming according to all the reviews I have been reading.
Dreamerman btw, I saw an update on the Dual graphics thing btw and although the spokesman did say it would work with The R7 250 and 240, he also said it would work with both DDr3 and DDr 5 variants and that it actually made no difference.
Btw, if I sound like a complete idiot for anything I have said, don't go mental at me. I'm not a computer expert but I am tired of people jumping on the Intel bandwagon for gaming and going anti APU.
Lots of people like gaming, even those that don't want to spend 750 or 1000 pounds on a base unit.
The average gamer will spend a lot less than that.
Lots of people like gaming, even those that don't want to spend 750 or 1000 pounds on a base unit.
The average gamer will spend a lot less than that.
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the answers are there if you ignore the opinions, akhil512, dreamerman, and i have stated what we think will technically work
At the moment, AMD have said the Radeon R7 250 and 240 work with the AMD A10 7850k for dual graphics.
Both the DDR3 and DDR5 versions will also work with the A10 7850k.
They have not mentioned if the Radeon R7 260 or 260x will work with it yet.
Both the DDR3 and DDR5 versions will also work with the A10 7850k.
They have not mentioned if the Radeon R7 260 or 260x will work with it yet.
akhil512
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No Tech Expert would Recommend a Hybrid Crossfire,Because You Wont Feel Smooth Gaming,Don't Just see The FPS Produced by a Card/Processor,also see The Frame Time Variance(which is The Most Important Thing)
See This Link For More Info
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/a10-7850k-a8-7600-kaveri,review-32867-8.html
See This Link For More Info
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/a10-7850k-a8-7600-kaveri,review-32867-8.html
Btw although the link says ddr3, it actually is updated in the post to say that AMD has confirmed it doesn't matter if its ddr3 or ddr5.
Personally, if I were you, I would wait for AMD to update its website to say which R7 series is best with the A10 7850k.
Personally, if I were you, I would wait for AMD to update its website to say which R7 series is best with the A10 7850k.
Regarding that link which reviews the AMD 7850k, what it says is true but current reviews of the chip won't reflect its future worth accurately because features such as HUMA, true audio and mantle haven't been utilised by software developers at all yet since they are new.
Benchmarking tests haven't been adapted to make use of these features yet either from what I have read.
Since these are the key selling points of the chip, the true performance of the A10 7850k and other Kaveri chips aren't shown by current reviews. The true benchmarks and performance of the chips will only be seen in the next few years once developers start utilising the key features of the chip hardware such as HUMA, True Audio and Mantle within their games/software and benchmarking tests are amended to utilise HUMA and the other features to give more accurate results.
Again, I am no computer expert but as I am very interested in this development, I have read a lot about it and these are the conclusions that I have discovered.
Long story short, current reviews and benchmarks underestimate the true potential performance of the A10 7850k and other kaveri chips because they don't utilise the key selling points of the hardware yet.
It will take time for the software side to catch up with the hardware.
Benchmarking tests haven't been adapted to make use of these features yet either from what I have read.
Since these are the key selling points of the chip, the true performance of the A10 7850k and other Kaveri chips aren't shown by current reviews. The true benchmarks and performance of the chips will only be seen in the next few years once developers start utilising the key features of the chip hardware such as HUMA, True Audio and Mantle within their games/software and benchmarking tests are amended to utilise HUMA and the other features to give more accurate results.
Again, I am no computer expert but as I am very interested in this development, I have read a lot about it and these are the conclusions that I have discovered.
Long story short, current reviews and benchmarks underestimate the true potential performance of the A10 7850k and other kaveri chips because they don't utilise the key selling points of the hardware yet.
It will take time for the software side to catch up with the hardware.
Oh, I forgot to mention.
Even the review that you have linked says that the benchmarks they have used (and current software such as games) do not utilise the features of the Kaveri chip series.
On a side note, at the moment, I personally do prefer to still get a discrete cpu and discrete gpu for a gaming build but this mostly comes down to the fact that APUs can only Dual Graphics rather than crossfire with up to 4 cards.
However, in the future when this limitation is removed and an apu can crossfire with multiple graphics cards, I can see myself switching over to APUs completely.
That's why I understand peoples criticisms of the A series because it is still sub standard for top end gaming but I believe it could be the future of it when AMD start releasing some high level APUs even if it isn't quite there yet.
Even the review that you have linked says that the benchmarks they have used (and current software such as games) do not utilise the features of the Kaveri chip series.
On a side note, at the moment, I personally do prefer to still get a discrete cpu and discrete gpu for a gaming build but this mostly comes down to the fact that APUs can only Dual Graphics rather than crossfire with up to 4 cards.
However, in the future when this limitation is removed and an apu can crossfire with multiple graphics cards, I can see myself switching over to APUs completely.
That's why I understand peoples criticisms of the A series because it is still sub standard for top end gaming but I believe it could be the future of it when AMD start releasing some high level APUs even if it isn't quite there yet.
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I am really interested in this setup more so for an HTPC. A10-7850k with a low profile R7 250. Is that a good option or is there something better in this price range for small form factor?
The issue I see with running an APU, Discrete GPU in dual graphics, and then 2400 MHz ram, is the fact that you can buy a quad core AMD FX CPU, Discrete GPU, and 1600 MHz ram for the same price and better performance or cheaper with same performance. The only place I can see myself using an APU is in an HTPC or a computer where you can't afford a D GPU at the time of initial purchase. APU's have their place. But they are severely limited in the CPU department, and dual graphics raises it's own issues of frame time variance problems.
If you're gaming I'd buy a $120 cpu, and a $100 GPU which almost equate to the $180 kaveri. But will blow it out of the water in performance. Only some games can take advantage of AMD's new Mantle which helps kaveri out a lot in gaming performance, and even then I have yet to see it actually used in anything besides bf4. Is it even fully released yet?
If you're gaming I'd buy a $120 cpu, and a $100 GPU which almost equate to the $180 kaveri. But will blow it out of the water in performance. Only some games can take advantage of AMD's new Mantle which helps kaveri out a lot in gaming performance, and even then I have yet to see it actually used in anything besides bf4. Is it even fully released yet?
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