What would you reccomend?
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quantmo
January 14, 2014 11:11:31 PM
Hey guys i want to get a better GPU and i was wondering what would be a good buy? I want something powerful and will last me a few years, I have a 550 watt PSU and a 1280x1024 monitor but i want to upgrade that to 1920x1080, My Motherboard is a GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-S2P.
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brarboy
January 14, 2014 11:23:41 PM
Brantyn Gerik
January 14, 2014 11:25:31 PM
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quantmo
January 14, 2014 11:44:26 PM
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Brantyn Gerik
January 14, 2014 11:46:36 PM
for your budget you could get a gtx 770, which will max out crysis fairly well and you won't have to buy a new mobo or anything as you won't be bottlenecking it quite yet. If you can find a r9-290 from amd for your budget, i HIGHLY recommend doing so, as this is an incredibly fast card for the money (unless you live in north america due to the price increase)
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Brantyn Gerik
January 14, 2014 11:47:15 PM
Fitzitz
January 14, 2014 11:48:00 PM
quantmo
January 14, 2014 11:49:34 PM
bignastyid
January 14, 2014 11:49:54 PM
quantmo
January 14, 2014 11:52:40 PM
Brantyn Gerik said:
for your budget you could get a gtx 770, which will max out crysis fairly well and you won't have to buy a new mobo or anything as you won't be bottlenecking it quite yet. If you can find a r9-290 from amd for your budget, i HIGHLY recommend doing so, as this is an incredibly fast card for the money (unless you live in north america due to the price increase)I am from Australia
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brarboy
January 14, 2014 11:53:15 PM
quantmo said:
I have a budget of say 400 dollars for one card . I have an FX-6300 as my CPU. I want something that can Run BF3 and Crysis 3 On max decently at 1920x1080. What about say a GTX 760? Give me any suggestions, even if i have to buy new PSU, Motherboard so on and so forth. All opinions are welcome.you do have to change your psu as if itsn't atleaast 80+bronze certified. Gtx 760 is great card in terms of high end gaming. And minimum recommended voltage for that card is 500watts.
Psu: corsair tx650 would be my recommendation
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Fitzitz
January 14, 2014 11:54:17 PM
quantmo
January 14, 2014 11:55:59 PM
Fitzitz
January 15, 2014 12:00:34 AM
quantmo
January 15, 2014 12:03:14 AM
Fitzitz
January 15, 2014 12:14:17 AM
quantmo
January 15, 2014 12:41:44 AM
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freakout918
January 15, 2014 1:05:31 AM
Most of the prebuilt systems skimp on th PSU. So I would suggest you to first buy a decent power supply(maybe 500W or 600W).Your CPU is fine.
For graphic card selection, you need to decide what games you want to play and what performs best in your budget.
I would suggest that if you want a comparatively cooler and silent card and are also interested in gameplay recording(with Nvidia Shadowplay) you should want to go Nvidia.
If you want to play games like BF4, Thief, Starcitizen that use amd mantle api, you should go for amd.
Following are what I would have considered myself (selected from australian pcpart picker):
Power Supply:
Corsair CX600m Bronze certified@$99
Graphic Cards:
XFX R9-270x 2GB@$259
MSI GTX 760 2GB@$309
Following are some benchmarks for Crysis3:
GPU
CPU
[note: GTX760 performs slightly better than GTX 660ti and R9-270x performs Slightly better than 7870 ]
edit->(correction:although the one mentioned here is the 7870LE which performed better than the regular 7870)
although I think the r9 270x should perform a tad bit better than 7870LE
Another recommendation to run games on higher settings is to turn the Anti Aliasing off(I personally feel no difference when gaming at masx resolution with AA off as compared to AA on)
[note: AA just smooths the jaggy edges that you see whe n your game is not running at max resolution and is just an upscaled image.]
Another thing that you should check before buying a new psu is whether you case can fit a standard size psu. Some cases with preinstalled psu cant fit a standard psu.
For graphic card selection, you need to decide what games you want to play and what performs best in your budget.
I would suggest that if you want a comparatively cooler and silent card and are also interested in gameplay recording(with Nvidia Shadowplay) you should want to go Nvidia.
If you want to play games like BF4, Thief, Starcitizen that use amd mantle api, you should go for amd.
Following are what I would have considered myself (selected from australian pcpart picker):
Power Supply:
Corsair CX600m Bronze certified@$99
Graphic Cards:
XFX R9-270x 2GB@$259
MSI GTX 760 2GB@$309
Following are some benchmarks for Crysis3:
GPU
CPU
[note: GTX760 performs slightly better than GTX 660ti and R9-270x performs Slightly better than 7870 ]
edit->(correction:although the one mentioned here is the 7870LE which performed better than the regular 7870)
although I think the r9 270x should perform a tad bit better than 7870LE
Another recommendation to run games on higher settings is to turn the Anti Aliasing off(I personally feel no difference when gaming at masx resolution with AA off as compared to AA on)
[note: AA just smooths the jaggy edges that you see whe n your game is not running at max resolution and is just an upscaled image.]
Another thing that you should check before buying a new psu is whether you case can fit a standard size psu. Some cases with preinstalled psu cant fit a standard psu.
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quantmo
January 15, 2014 4:18:56 AM
bignastyid
January 15, 2014 5:24:11 AM
For your budget this is what I'd go with.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($309.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($89.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $398.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-16 00:22 EST+1100)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($309.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($89.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $398.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-16 00:22 EST+1100)
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quantmo
January 15, 2014 8:19:36 PM
bignastyid
January 15, 2014 8:49:12 PM
That 520w antec is a much higher quality unit that is capable of actually delivering it rated wattage where it counts. The 550w psu you have is much lower quality and most likely can't. A good 520w psu is more than enough, a good 600w unit would put you over budget with a gtx 760 and you'd have to geta slower card or spend more for power you wouldn't be using.
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Airm3n
January 15, 2014 8:53:05 PM
quantmo said:
But ny psu is 550 watt and that is 520? What about a 600 watt?What you are looking for the is the power supplied on the 12v rail. Should list it and say something like 12+ and give an amps rating.
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
Look there as well for some psu's if you want to hunt around for a deal you can compare and see if its good quality.
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freakout918
January 15, 2014 10:25:09 PM
quantmo said:
Wow thanks man I was looking at say bf4 and crysis 3, the 270x looks like a good option, as it's cheaper than my budget but it's powerful? I will check my pay tomorrow as its night here. Thanks fir so much info! Just what I needed, so what would the nvidia equivalent of the 270x be?I think the gtx660ti would be much closer to 270x than the gtx760, but personally if i was not intersted in recording a gameplay I would go for 270x, with its mantle api used in games AMD card perform upto 45% faster.
currently mantle is supported in BF4 and will be supported in Thief, Starcitizen and some other title that i cant recall.
But I am still not very sure if many games developers will support it in the future, but hey BF4 supports mantle and personally I would like to save some money.
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bignastyid
January 15, 2014 10:44:09 PM
freakout918
January 15, 2014 11:41:31 PM
bignastyid said:
I thought BF4s mantle patch had been delayed and I haven't seen that it released yet.Source
I also read in other article that from some leaked footage, it is speculated that it runs upto 45% faster.
I cant find other links right now as I am at work.
I should've posted links for the source earlier. Thanks for bringing it up.
Mantle will be released later this month acc. to article.
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Brantyn Gerik
January 16, 2014 12:16:30 AM
quantmo
January 16, 2014 3:14:40 AM
freakout918
January 16, 2014 3:23:29 AM
quantmo said:
So would a 270x be good for it? I don't wanna record. Is my 550w psu enough? And how long will the card last me?It has a great price to performance ratio and performs pretty well too.
It would be a great graphic card.
And please buy a new PSU. If you can please give some links to the original 550 w psu you have.
I think you should avoid a psu from a prebuilt case. I f you are not sure about the old psu as I said buy a new one, cx600w would od great I guess. If you would use a good quality PSU, you would not run into issues with proper power delivery with your system. A bad psu can take you whole computer with it.
You can also get a cx500 if you want but the price diff b/w cx500 and cx600 is not much.
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freakout918
January 16, 2014 3:33:27 AM
Brantyn Gerik said:
There is no hard on paper performance reports of mantle vs no mantle for bf4 yet, they say up to, but honestly until it is released and reviews come out...i wouldnt use mantle as a selling point...Sir, you are an authority I agree with you.
but I think R9 270x is already a great performing card and just wanted to suggest that mantle could make it better,
although there is no proof on paper( just "speculations") as we'll have to wait till late jan to see some more info. ,but it wont make it worse I guess.
If the OP wants he can wait couple of days till mantle releases and be sure, but I was just adding mantle as a +(maybe) to an already great graphic card.
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brarboy
January 16, 2014 3:33:54 AM
quantmo said:
So would a 270x be good for it? I don't wanna record. Is my 550w psu enough? And how long will the card last me?it depend what quality power you have. Minimum recommendation for 270x is 500watts. If you have psu with atleast 80+ bronze or higher quality, you are all set to go
If it doesn't then i recommend changing your psu and get better quality psu certified with at least 80+ bronze certificate.
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bignastyid
January 16, 2014 5:56:57 AM
quantmo said:
So would a 270x be good for it? I don't wanna record. Is my 550w psu enough? And how long will the card last me?The 270x isn't a bad card its the best in its price range, just not as fast as the 760. Your 550w PSU should be used as a doorstop or a paperweight and not in a computer that you don't want to see die spectacularly in a show of light and smoke. There is no way to know how long the card will last, if i could see the future I highly doubt I would be posting here as I'd be rich on my own private island drinking an exotic alcoholic beverage.
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bignastyid
January 16, 2014 6:01:10 AM
brarboy said:
quantmo said:
So would a 270x be good for it? I don't wanna record. Is my 550w psu enough? And how long will the card last me?it depend what quality power you have. Minimum recommendation for 270x is 500watts. If you have psu with atleast 80+ bronze or higher quality, you are all set to go
If it doesn't then i recommend changing your psu and get better quality psu certified with at least 80+ bronze certificate.
The 80+ certificates are an efficiency rating not a quality rating. For example Raidmax has some 80+ gold rated PSU's that are steaming piles.
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brarboy
January 16, 2014 6:13:57 AM
bignastyid said:
brarboy said:
quantmo said:
So would a 270x be good for it? I don't wanna record. Is my 550w psu enough? And how long will the card last me?it depend what quality power you have. Minimum recommendation for 270x is 500watts. If you have psu with atleast 80+ bronze or higher quality, you are all set to go
If it doesn't then i recommend changing your psu and get better quality psu certified with at least 80+ bronze certificate.
The 80+ certificates are an efficiency rating not a quality rating. For example Raidmax has some 80+ gold rated PSU's that are steaming piles.
thanks for correcting me
"certified" was word i was looking for, which wasn't popping up in my mind at that time.
Thanks again
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quantmo
January 16, 2014 2:04:43 PM
Airm3n
January 16, 2014 5:14:33 PM
quantmo
January 16, 2014 5:51:19 PM
Airm3n
January 16, 2014 6:23:45 PM
brarboy
January 16, 2014 6:24:44 PM
quantmo said:
AustraliaFor gpu go with either of them with the $400 budget:
ASUS GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5
Gigabyte GTX 770 GDDR5-4GB
Looking at Gpu+Psu with that budget:
ASUS GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5
OR
EVGA GeForce GTX760 SuperClocked
And psu:
Corsair TX650
Good Luck.
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quantmo
January 16, 2014 6:26:15 PM
Thanks, will the 270x give me good power, cooling and keep me going for a few years? One monitor gaming at 1920x1080
Thanks http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/1NETF
Thanks http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/1NETF
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brarboy
January 16, 2014 6:35:34 PM
quantmo said:
Thanks, will the 270x give me good power, cooling and keep me going for a few years? One monitor gaming at 1920x1080Thanks http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/1NETF
Don't go for that gpu, according to TechPowerUp review on R9 270X-
"Compared to NVIDIA's lineup, we find it performing between NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 660 and GTX 660 Ti, and 12% behind the recently released GTX 760."
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_270X/31.html
And gtx 760 is $20 cheaper than that.
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Airm3n
January 16, 2014 6:37:24 PM
Airm3n
January 16, 2014 6:41:27 PM
brarboy said:
quantmo said:
Thanks, will the 270x give me good power, cooling and keep me going for a few years? One monitor gaming at 1920x1080Thanks http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/1NETF
Don't go for that gpu, according to TechPowerUp review on R9 270X-
"Compared to NVIDIA's lineup, we find it performing between NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 660 and GTX 660 Ti, and 12% behind the recently released GTX 760."
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_270X/31.html
And gtx 760 is $20 cheaper than that.
In what country are you looking? The prices I see show the 760 close on 50-60$ more. 770 even more. The 270x will perform just fine for a single monitor. As well its still cheaper than the 660ti I see listed on pcpartpicker.
edit :
Also you are showing a stock AMD reference design whereas the one i'm showing is not which should give better performance.
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brarboy
January 16, 2014 6:49:14 PM
Airm3n said:
brarboy said:
quantmo said:
Thanks, will the 270x give me good power, cooling and keep me going for a few years? One monitor gaming at 1920x1080Thanks http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/1NETF
Don't go for that gpu, according to TechPowerUp review on R9 270X-
"Compared to NVIDIA's lineup, we find it performing between NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 660 and GTX 660 Ti, and 12% behind the recently released GTX 760."
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_270X/31.html
And gtx 760 is $20 cheaper than that.
In what country are you looking? The prices I see show the 760 close on 50-60$ more. 770 even more. The 270x will perform just fine for a single monitor. As well its still cheaper than the 660ti I see listed on pcpartpicker.
edit :
Also you are showing a stock AMD reference design whereas the one i'm showing is not which should give better performance.
looked in amazon Australia, and it tend to gave me results i mentioned above
Edit: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-270X-vs-GeForce-GTX-7... for comparison. It would outperform that gpu.
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Airm3n
January 16, 2014 7:02:20 PM
brarboy
January 16, 2014 7:13:14 PM
quantmo
January 16, 2014 9:57:57 PM
brarboy
January 16, 2014 10:20:51 PM
quantmo said:
Preferably Graphics card and PSU on my budget, but i can afford to go over a little bit, as it will take me a long time to earn the money.With gtx 770 you can play every game on ultra or highest setting
But it can cost you $100 more than gtx 760 on amazon. Also you will have to increase your power of psu upto 700 or 750. So choose either one from what i said or Airm3n suggested you. Make sure you get better series of psu with your purchase(tx series than cx series)
good luck
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Brantyn Gerik
January 16, 2014 10:43:04 PM
Sorry for not reading much more, but you do not need to upgrade to a 750 watt psu for a gtx 770. this card, and any other single card will run on as low as a 550 watt power supply without hiccup as long as you make sure to buy a good one. Yes it is good to overbuy if you have the budget, but if you are truly a stickler to it, i would recommend a 600 watt quality psu like the corsair tx series (cx will work just fine if you wanna save more money, but the tx is a good solid one from corsair). There are others, but the card does not need something as high as even a 700 watt power supply unless you have like the shittiest power supply on the market
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Brantyn Gerik
January 16, 2014 10:44:40 PM
now, if your current 550watt looks to be old, and of poor quality, then yes, you should replace it before buying anything that is of 760's power draw or higher. BUT that being said, you could get away with a good quality 550 watt and still be fine. Most people will recommend more for the purpose of upgrades, as well as a kinda safety buffer that a larger psu gives you
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