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hi guys. im going to build a new rig and im kinda short on budget so im planning to build an apu first then add gfx card later. what apu do you think has the best price performance ratio? some says im better with an a8 because a10 wont really give me much of a boost. what do you think guys?
 
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well im under 400 dollars so im thinking of buying an a8 or 10 now with a 2400 ram. then ill buy either an r9 270x or a 7950 when i saved enough money. so if the a8 6600k wont bottleneck any of the cards i said. im going to go with a8 cause i think the performance of a10 isnt significantly faster than a8.
 
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Just to throw this out there, it is a bit over your budget though.

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CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M PRO4+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($190.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $420.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-15 13:11 EST-0500)
 
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naa i cant cause here in the Philippines, nobody sells 760k and pc parts are more expensive by 10-20 dollars. and you didnt even add the psu, case and hard drive there

 
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You might want to look into a Haswell Pentium G and a nice midrange dedicated card. APU performance is not even as good as an old Phenom II on the CPU side. Something maybe like this. You could go cheaper on the board if necessary and then upgrade to an i5 later and have a very solid rig.

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CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($62.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $397.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-15 13:15 EST-0500)
 
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that build will surely bottleneck the gpu.
 
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yeah i would be okay playing lower resolution for the moment. till i get an r9. do you think an a8 will bottleneck it? im going to buy a good cooler so i think ill be able to reach 4.6ghz
 
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A Haswell pentium G can handle an R9 270. It is basically an HD 7870. Only in games that use more than 2 cores will give you any trouble and even then it would be far superior to an APU build using the IGP. So you get to play most games now, with decent framerates, and wait on a better CPU later. I wouldn't go above an HD 7870 or R9 270 with an APU. They are weaker clock for clock than a Phenom II. A phenom II 965 @ 4.0ghz is still faster than a 750k @ 4.3.
 
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nah i dont think so if i play crysis 3 which is a core extensive game that will surely give me problems. rushing to buy an r9 270x. then because of that great bottleneck ill need to rush getting an i5 which will cost me 200 dollars. yes it will perform better than the a8 with igpu. but it will cost me more if i go with your build for i need to get an i5. what im thinking is if the a8 wont bottleneck the r9. then ill just settle with my a8 with igpu first then get an r9 later which i think could save more money than what you suggest
 
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An i5 is cheaper than a new GPU. I was giving you a solution at the cost you gave that is far superior to an APU. Unless that $400 is for the whole build, then I was mistaken and apologize. I was under the impression that this was for APU, Motherboard, and Ram. An R9 270x isn't really much faster than an R9 270. Crysis 3 btw, an FX 6300 or i5 is recommended by THG as the minimum CPU. ;)
 
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what about this build? SEASONIC S12II-520 520W 80+BRONZE

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AMD FX-4100
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GSKILL RIPJAWSX 4GBX2 1600MHZ (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL)
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its around 21000 and i dont know why each part was copy pasted twice. from:http://pcx.com.ph/checkout/cart/
 
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yeah i actually have 550 dollars for my cpu. but if i go with an fx 6300 then get maybe an r9 or 7850. then ill have to limit my ram to 4gb1600 then get a crappy low tier board a decent psu , an hdd and a mid tier case. what im thinking if it wiser to build an apu now to maximize other parts. maybe with an a8 6600k couple it with a 2x4b 2400 ram. buy an ssd and an hdd a good board and case. then ill just an r9 270 after a few months for a better all around performance. my problem is if my a8 6600k will hold back r9. or would it be wiser to go with an fx because ram wouldnt play a large role on playing games?

 
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isnt a 4100 a crappy chip? i saw many negative comments about it. and i thing a 7770 wouldnt be sufficient with a 1920x1080p reso. i know an a8 even if coupled with a 2x4gb 2400 ram isnt also capable of that. but if i build an apu first i would be able to maximize my budget get an ssd good board good ram good case decent psu and buy later an r9 270 if my a8 wont bottlenck the r9. or perhaps it is wiser to stretch my budget with an fx 6300 and r9 with a crappy board 4gb 1600 ram a decent psu a decent case because the processing power of a8 would hurt my r9? cause im thinking if i build a Good APU system now i would be able to maximize my budget with other parts as well

 
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In the US, I don't see A8-7600 for sale yet, but there is a A10-6790k for $130, same price as a Core i3-4150. For me, it would be a toss up between these two. If you don't need the iGPU, their performance for CPU-only compute is pretty much the same, give or take a little.
 
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will a 7770 be able to play high on bf4 on a 1920x1080 monitor without AA?

 
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To be honest, I would bite the bullet and buy I5-4570, it's a very good CPU and it has a decent iGPU in it. It's not as good as A8 or A10 when it comes to GPU, but the CPU part is top notch and if you are planning on buying discrete GPU, then it instantly makes I5 a MUCH better choice, while being similar in price.

I think that it is a mistake for you to buy A8 or A10 if you are planning on buying R9 anything... it is literally throwing money away, since A8 and A10 are HORRIBLE as CPUs.

I5 would be a better choice for you now over FX-4100 suggestion also because I5 in itself has iGPU, so no need to waste money on GPU now.

And finally... what is your current rig? Maybe you can just buy a new kickass GPU and then get everything else afterwards? It's pretty much what I did and it worked out real good for me.
 
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going i5 means my rig wont even play any crysis or bf title since i'll need to wait before i can buy a gpu

 
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So you will wait a couple of months and will end up with a kickass rig for years to come or buy A8/A10 will "enjoy" your low/medium BF title for the years to come, because even if you buy better GPU you will still be dragged down by A8 CPU forever...

Your choice.
 
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f*ck thats good. im going to consider this. but to save a couple more bucks. will the performance of an i5 be miles away with an 8320 with gaming? i know intel kicks amd's ass single thread but how about when running multi thread when amd can utilize more cores?

by the way i can only go for i5 4430 or 4440

 
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