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r9 280x or gtx 770 rig with same CPU? Performance gaming build

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January 16, 2014 9:20:03 PM

Hey guys, i want to ask you all about my rig. Which is better? (the power consumption, and next gen games compatibility also considered). So here is my rig plans.

(GTX 770 rig) :
i5 4570
G1 Sniper B5
Zotac GTX 770 AMP!

(R9 280x rig) :
i5 4570 (same with GTX one and no plan for OC at all and i dont want to)

Both rig use the same case (carbide 200r), RAM (vengeance pro 8gb 1600mhz), HDD (seagate barracuda 1TB 7200rpm), DVD rom (LG DVDrw 24x), PSU (super flower golden green 600w gold certified modular), and i'll be used an 23 inch full hd AOC LED. probably not planning using multi monitor and neither multi GPU, and ill stay @1080p resolution.

in my opinion Nvidia is better for single card and single monitor @1080p than the R9 280x one because the display spec like : shader performance, RAMDAC speed (7200mhz for AMP cards), core speed, Texture rate, and its pixel rate is better than R9 280x at all. Although the memory performance is slightly worse than the R9 280x. It also uses less power which is good for my electricity bills.LOL

I've been planning to buy the GTX 770 rig next week, but after searching some websites today and found that AMD will be release MANTLE API for the up to 50% performance boost in todays modern graphics engine such as : frostbite 3, Nitrous, and Crytek then I reconsider the R9 rig again. Beside, even without MANTLE R9 is could keep up close with the GTX. I imagine what kind of raw performance if the mantle could increase the performance that much.

So i would asking for your help guys. Sorry if my question seems too much that's because i dont want to be dissappointed after i buy and build the rig.
-Which one I should pick for the best performance for all?
-Will the R9 280x runs well with my PSU even i put it in peak power conditions (460 watt
approximately from the websites)?.
-Which is better GTX 770 or R9 280x?
-Will my psu can keep up the power demand for years (at least 5 years)?

I will be glad if the answers is not tend to be a fanboys (prefers neutral answers one :-D). Thank you guys.
January 16, 2014 9:27:29 PM

the r9 280x hands down especially with mantle coming along but either way can't go wrong.
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a b à CPUs
January 16, 2014 9:36:49 PM

your psu will be great for any single gpu card on the market for many years, as it is a great quality power supply and will be running closer to it's efficiency range.

As far as 280x vs 770, they are pretty identicle at the moment in terms of performance, with them trading blows in many games. BUT this is without mantle, and although mantle promises big gains, i personally suspect much lower gains than promised. that being said, even with a slight gain, it will put the 280x ahead by a minimal amount. Another big thing to consider between these two cards is pricing for your area. In north america, the 280x has seen a price jump due to virtual currency mining

so basically it comes down to,
1. if you believe in mantle, i'd suggest the 280x ,though will depend heavily on the games you want to play
2. if you want a slightly more quality card (nvidia is a higher quality brand as far as manufacturing, it's just a plain and simple fact, it's how amd can give the same performance for a lower price.) go with the 770. Though, the quality difference is not that big, it is just one of those "feel better" things, like a honda vs a ford. both are great, but honda typically runs like a brick shithouse forever.

personally i do not believe in anything more than 10% gains for mantle on the higher end cards, but this is my own personal opinion.

the best thing to do would be to wait until mantle is released and reviews come out on it, otherwise, they are basically identicle cards in terms of performance and you should go for the cheaper of the two (the zotac amp edition has honestly not as bad of a cooler as people say).

this is more about what you believe to be a smarter choice. In my experience the 770 is ever so slightly (not even noticably so) faster than the 280x as far as an average score across all games goes
a c 163 à CPUs
January 16, 2014 9:39:49 PM

The PROS and CONS are getting ridiculous, such as Mantle vs G-Sync. NVidia has Shadowplay (recording) and PhysX.

I lean towards the R9-280X because of Mantle, provided you have little interest in the other features from NVidia.

I was disappointed that AMD said "up to 45% boost in BF4" recently and gave absolutely NO details otherwise. Still, if the average person got say, 30%, that would be pretty significant.

I've been studying Mantle and it's darn impressive what CAN be done. I've seen indications of 3x or more performance boosts when Mantle starts to mature (it's a work in progress).

I'm convinced Mantle is the future API, though we may only see a couple games in the next few years that one person might buy.
a b à CPUs
January 16, 2014 9:45:10 PM

physx is really cool in games like batman or borderlands, but it really does have it's uses. Shadowplay is actually surprisingly good from my experience as well. if you have windows 8, it has near limitless file sizes, while windows 7 is limited at the moment, but is claimed to get over the restriction soon.

even if mantle is only a 5% increase, as long as you play games with mantle, it will make the 280x a more viable choice in terms of performance.

g-sync is pretty amazing, as far as reviewers are concerned, but this also requires an additional purchase

amd has claimed free-sync, but this is laptop screens which use a much different connector than desktop monitors. It is totally possible for cables to eventually bypass the need for g-sync by being able to carry enough data to do the same thing as g-sync, but we are quite a ways away from it, not to mention the technology in g-sync is actually pretty impressive (own processor, and own memory modules)
January 16, 2014 10:58:27 PM

whoa. thank you guys for the fast response. still i'll wait a little for the other answers to choose the best answer. Otherwise thanks for the answers guys.
January 17, 2014 10:53:27 PM

By the way guys i still have a question. Is Zotac brand is good especially the 770 amp! one that i planning to buy? and how good it is if compared to the MSI 280X gaming card?.
a b à CPUs
January 20, 2014 10:03:36 PM

zotac is not the best brand out there, but honestly it's fine, and usually the cheapest around. they are both about the same performance, trading blows in many games.

After mantle drops, it will give the 280x a slight edge in mantle games (bf4, thief, some other games) but this is only because they are so even before mantle