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[i5 3570k + gtx760] vs [fx8350 + r9 270x]

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January 16, 2014 10:28:11 PM

Hi, So I plan on building a new pc for gaming and I don't know wether it's better to go with :
An [ i5 3570k + gtx 760 ] Or a [ Fx8350 + r9 270x ].
So obviously, most people will say, I5 3570k is better at gaming than the fx 8350 an also, the 760 outperforme the r9 270x in almost every game. Yes this is true, but only at the moment.
Let me explain my self:
Let's start with the Gpu:
With the new technologie called Mantle from AMD which is going to launch soon, AMD 7xxx and r9 gpus are going to become more powerful, AMD are promising a 45% improvement in Battlefield 4 Fps. So, in the near future The r9 270x will be more powerful then the gtx 760.
Now For the Cpu:
With mantle, frostbite ( and many other engine ) games will use 8 cores instead of a maximum of 4 cores for most games right now. Also, we know that the fx8350 is more powerful than the i5 3570k
when it comes to multithreading performance ( apps that use 8 cores ). That being said, for next gen games, the fx8350 will be more powerful than the i5 3570k.
So, what should I choose... I5 3570k + gtx 760 for better performance in gaming right now or fx8350 + r9 270x "probably" greater performance for next gen gaming.
Thank you for reading :)  ( and sorry for bad english )
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January 16, 2014 10:41:52 PM

Well the 3570K is far superior as a CPU (except for video rendering) and the 760 is superior to the 270X so have to say the 3570K and 760 without any doubt ;) 

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January 16, 2014 10:50:48 PM
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If I were you I would definitely go for i5 + gtx760 because right now very few games is the market is made to support mantle and also they don't use all the 8 cores of a processor.
Of course the scenario will change in the next few years but that will take another 1-2 years at least. And after 1-2 years even more powerful processor and graphics card will come out. And with today's gaming gear it will be difficult play the games of the future.
Its better to live in the present with PC gaming.
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January 16, 2014 11:02:45 PM

There are PROS and CONS as mentioned.

Keep in mind that MOST people's games are older games bought from Steam, not newer ones. Basically EVERY GAME on Steam currently will run best with the i5+760 combo.

If BF4 was a game you'd be playing a lot, AND I could see validation of that "up to 45%" result that could change things. Otherwise, look at what games you'd be playing the MOST.
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January 16, 2014 11:10:33 PM

photonboy said:
There are PROS and CONS as mentioned.

Keep in mind that MOST people's games are older games bought from Steam, not newer ones. Basically EVERY GAME on Steam currently will run best with the i5+760 combo.

If BF4 was a game you'd be playing a lot, AND I could see validation of that "up to 45%" result that could change things. Otherwise, look at what games you'd be playing the MOST.

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+1

and have you looked at many of AMD promises - how Bulldozer was going to be so great, or Piledriver, and of course Steamroller (which now doesn't even appear to be on the table anymore) or they've been promising to get XFire 'fixed' for a couple years now
January 16, 2014 11:26:10 PM

Muku said:
If I were you I would definitely go for i5 + gtx760 because right now very few games is the market is made to support mantle and also they don't use all the 8 cores of a processor.
Of course the scenario will change in the next few years but that will take another 1-2 years at least. And after 1-2 years even more powerful processor and graphics card will come out. And with today's gaming gear it will be difficult play the games of the future.
Its better to live in the present with PC gaming.


photonboy said:
There are PROS and CONS as mentioned.

Keep in mind that MOST people's games are older games bought from Steam, not newer ones. Basically EVERY GAME on Steam currently will run best with the i5+760 combo.

If BF4 was a game you'd be playing a lot, AND I could see validation of that "up to 45%" result that could change things. Otherwise, look at what games you'd be playing the MOST.


Thanks for the answers, I think I'm gonna play a LOT of battlefield 4 for probably the next year. So I was thinking, With mantle comming, It may be a good idea to get the Fx8350 + r9 270x for now ( Knowing that this will be a lot cheaper than to buy the I5 + GTX ), and upgrade to a Fx9590 + r9 290x in like 2 years without having to change the motherboard.

That or stay with the I5 3570k + GTX for about 3 Years and then Upgrade to Haswell and upgrade the mobo to a Z87.

But like Muku Said, it's better to live in the present with PC gaming, maybe in 2 years FX9590 will be outdated and i'll have to change the AM3+ motherboard if I want to upgrade the CPU...So yeah, I may Go with I5 + GTX after all :) 

January 16, 2014 11:31:00 PM

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photonboy said:
There are PROS and CONS as mentioned.

Keep in mind that MOST people's games are older games bought from Steam, not newer ones. Basically EVERY GAME on Steam currently will run best with the i5+760 combo.

If BF4 was a game you'd be playing a lot, AND I could see validation of that "up to 45%" result that could change things. Otherwise, look at what games you'd be playing the MOST.

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+1

and have you looked at many of AMD promises - how Bulldozer was going to be so great, or Piledriver, and of course Steamroller (which now doesn't even appear to be on the table anymore) or they've been promising to get XFire 'fixed' for a couple years now


Well that's a shame :/  If they do the same thing with mantle It will be a disaster :o  I'll stick with Intel and Nvidia then. Thanks for the help :) 
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January 17, 2014 1:20:25 AM

Mantle will be a success. Let's just get that out of the way.

The real question is how quickly.

I think a 30% BF4 average improvement is a reasonable guess based on the "up to 45%" statement, though maybe you should just WAIT a few weeks until Mantle comes out for BF4.

I never, ever buy a PC with the intention of upgrading the CPU either. I keep a PC for about five years, but upgrade the graphics card half way through.

*Everybody was expecting AMD to put out a CPU in 2014 that solved their current performance issues. They ONLY thing I'm fairly certain of is that the AM3+ socket won't get new CPU's.

The improvements in CPU's have almost ground to a halt for a few reasons:
- AMD has money problems
- Intel has mobile concerns
- Intel has better CPU's overall for gaming already than AMD
- software isn't really taking advantage of CPU's very well
- game code is transitioning to the GPU

So Intel won't likely come out with anything worth upgrading to from an i5-4670K for a while and AMD apparently hasn't got anything though they should.

As for Mantle, again, that was all initiated by requests by Game Developers and its development is simply happening because it solves issues THEY need solved which aren't just performance issues but also TECHNICAL ones to do with video drivers and a myriad of other problems that Mantle can solve.
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