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January 17, 2014 3:27:06 AM

hi there please take a loo its my first pc build as im only 16.

Asus GeForce GTX 760 DirectCUII OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics
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PILEDRIVE FX-8 Eight Core 8350 Black Edition 4.00GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail

Antec High Current Gamer 620W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply

Kingston HyperX Predator 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (KHX24C11T2K2/8X)

Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02733)

Xigmatek Alfar Midi Tower Windowed Case - Black/Orange

Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD

Cooler Master Hyper 412 Slim CPU Cooler

Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24F1ST SATA ReWriter - Black (Retail)

Thast it £830 firstly is it all compatible and good for gaming on bf3/4 and far cry 3would it be able to play them on high. Feel free to make suggestions too


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January 17, 2014 3:34:13 AM

It is not bad for a first build.. I would suggest different motherboard though, f.e. M5A99FX, as the 990FX chipset is MUCH better suited for overclocking and overclocking options are very good with fx 8350. I do not know the cpu cooler, so I cant judge there, but in general budget minded case, I would go with cooler master hyper 212+

If that stretches your budget, you can save some pounds on RAM, as you will not see much performance difference with 2400mhz vs standard 1600 or 1866 mhz.
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January 17, 2014 3:34:40 AM

Looks good.
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January 17, 2014 3:35:30 AM

How'd you do, pal?

Thats quite a great machine, isn't it?

IMHO, the power supply is a bit too much unless you're planning on big upgrades on the future. You could save money on it to grab more graphics performance.
I think that if it's gaming what you're aiming at, you could get a cheaper CPU and go for a stronger graphics card. It's almost always a wise decision.

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January 17, 2014 3:36:38 AM

All great choice. Nothing lacking in my opinion.

Some minor changer that you can consider :

Cheaper ASUS M5A97 R2.0 mobo, it only has 2 less USB2 ports, 2 less SATA ports and no firewire.
Use this comparison if you are not sure.
http://www.asus.com/Compare/
You can also get the FX 8320 to save a little more, it can easily be overclocked a little to match the 8350 as its the same CPU with just a lower clock.
Same thing goes for RAM, 2400MHz RAM is pointless actually. Get something like 1600MHz / 1866MHz from G.skill sniper range.

Lastly with these 2 above savings. Maybe you can get a better graphics card like the GTX770.

:D  But all of these are purely up to you. Your choices are great.
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January 17, 2014 3:38:06 AM

Good build, but definitely go for 990 series chipset for that CPU. You should be able to run BF4 on high no problem, for FarCry you can run it on high, but you may need to turn AA off.
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January 17, 2014 4:14:02 AM

Novuake said:
All great choice. Nothing lacking in my opinion.

Some minor changer that you can consider :

Cheaper ASUS M5A97 R2.0 mobo, it only has 2 less USB2 ports, 2 less SATA ports and no firewire.
Use this comparison if you are not sure.
http://www.asus.com/Compare/
You can also get the FX 8320 to save a little more, it can easily be overclocked a little to match the 8350 as its the same CPU with just a lower clock.
Same thing goes for RAM, 2400MHz RAM is pointless actually. Get something like 1600MHz / 1866MHz from G.skill sniper range.

Lastly with these 2 above savings. Maybe you can get a better graphics card like the GTX770.

:D  But all of these are purely up to you. Your choices are great.

is there much of a difference between the gtx 760 and 770?
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January 17, 2014 4:20:36 AM

airsoftking156 said:

is there much of a difference between the gtx 760 and 770?


You tell me? 21 percent @ 1080p. :D 



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January 17, 2014 4:21:03 AM

Yep, there is considerable differnce between the 760 and the 770 for only 50-60 euros more. Definitely recommended.
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January 17, 2014 4:26:34 AM

The 770 is maybe 15-20% more capable but is about £50/$80 more so it's up to you to decide if the price is worth it.

You could expect maybe an extra 10fps for that price increase.
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January 17, 2014 4:27:20 AM

Novuake said:
All great choice. Nothing lacking in my opinion.

Some minor changer that you can consider :

Cheaper ASUS M5A97 R2.0 mobo, it only has 2 less USB2 ports, 2 less SATA ports and no firewire.
Use this comparison if you are not sure.
http://www.asus.com/Compare/
You can also get the FX 8320 to save a little more, it can easily be overclocked a little to match the 8350 as its the same CPU with just a lower clock.
Same thing goes for RAM, 2400MHz RAM is pointless actually. Get something like 1600MHz / 1866MHz from G.skill sniper range.

Lastly with these 2 above savings. Maybe you can get a better graphics card like the GTX770.

:D  But all of these are purely up to you. Your choices are great.


Forgive me if I am wrong, but I believe the M5A97 R2.0 Evo R2.0 has a 6 + 2 Phase power design vs the M5A97 R2.0's 4 + 2 phase power design, so the evo would be a better overclocking board.
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January 17, 2014 4:35:23 AM

Razor88 said:

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I believe the M5A97 R2.0 Evo R2.0 has a 6 + 2 Phase power design vs the M5A97 R2.0's 4 + 2 phase power design, so the evo would be a better overclocking board.


M5A97 (R2.0) 4+2
M5A97 EVO/PRO 6+2

You are perfectly correct, however the limitation of the 970 chipset is gonna limit it a lot anyway.
Besides, very few people actually overclock, and if a cheaper board increases graphics card performance by 21%, then it makes perfect sense.

At least that is my reasoning.
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January 17, 2014 4:39:19 AM

airsoftking156 said:
Novuake said:
All great choice. Nothing lacking in my opinion.

Some minor changer that you can consider :

Cheaper ASUS M5A97 R2.0 mobo, it only has 2 less USB2 ports, 2 less SATA ports and no firewire.
Use this comparison if you are not sure.
http://www.asus.com/Compare/
You can also get the FX 8320 to save a little more, it can easily be overclocked a little to match the 8350 as its the same CPU with just a lower clock.
Same thing goes for RAM, 2400MHz RAM is pointless actually. Get something like 1600MHz / 1866MHz from G.skill sniper range.

Lastly with these 2 above savings. Maybe you can get a better graphics card like the GTX770.

:D  But all of these are purely up to you. Your choices are great.

is there much of a difference between the gtx 760 and 770?


Novuake said:
Razor88 said:

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I believe the M5A97 R2.0 Evo R2.0 has a 6 + 2 Phase power design vs the M5A97 R2.0's 4 + 2 phase power design, so the evo would be a better overclocking board.


M5A97 (R2.0) 4+2 Yes 140W Yes Yes Unknown Yes - throttling 8-pin ATX Not Digi VRM
M5A97 EVO/PRO 6+2 Yes 140W Yes Yes Unknown Yes - throttling 8-pin ATX Digi VRMs

You are perfectly correct, however the limitation of the 970 chipset is gonna limit it a lot more.
Besides, very few people actually overclock, and if a cheaper board increases graphics card performance by 21%, then it makes perfect sense.

At least that is my reasoning.



And one must add that a performance bonus of 21% (on Total War Shogun 2 we're talking about over 30%) is far more beneficial for a gamer than a overclocked CPU.
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January 17, 2014 4:41:18 AM

Kai Dowin said:

And one must add that a performance bonus of 21% (on Total War Shogun 2 we're talking about over 30%) is far more beneficial for a gamer than a overclocked CPU.


Precisely :D 
I like you already, newbie...
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January 17, 2014 4:50:51 AM

Ah cool. never realised that he had to skimp on the graphics card to get a better mobo.
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